What happens to the Republican Party now? (8 Viewers)

[MT15]

This election nonsense by Trump may end up splitting up the Republican Party. I just don’t see how the one third (?) who are principled conservatives can stay in the same party with Trump sycophants who are willing to sign onto the TX Supreme Court case.

We also saw the alt right types chanting “destroy the GOP” in Washington today because they didn’t keep Trump in power. I think the Q types will also hold the same ill will toward the traditional Republican Party. In fact its quite possible that all the voters who are really in a Trump personality cult will also blame the GOP for his loss. It’s only a matter of time IMO before Trump himself gets around to blaming the GOP.

There is some discussion of this on Twitter. What do you all think?

 

[Bigdaddysaints]

Why do they say this ridiculous shirt?

I guess that shows what circles of friends he has. I have no idea how to get one of those tablets.

 

[MT15]

 

[Optimus Prime]

The man leading the Republican charge for an impeachment inquiry into Joe Biden has endured “eight months of abject failure” in trying to prove the US president guilty of wrongdoing, a watchdog report says.

James Comer, the ambitious chairman of the House of Representatives’ oversight committee, has repeatedly overhyped allegations of bribery and corruption against Biden without once producing hard evidence, according to the Congressional Integrity Project.

The lack of a case underlines the huge political risks facing House Republicans when they return to Capitol Hill on Tuesday. Some are threatening to force a government shutdown unless an impeachment inquiry is opened despite objections from wary Republican colleagues in the Senate.

Comer has been leading an aggressive investigation into unsubstantiated claims that Biden was involved in his son Hunter’s foreign business affairs during his time as vice-president. A CNN/SSRS poll this week found that 61% of Americans believe that Biden did play such a role, including 42% who think he acted illegally. But establishing the link between father and son has proved an elusive holy grail.

“After months of political stunts, dozens of hearings, transcribed interviews, and memos, and despite hours on Fox peddling conspiracy theories, Comer and his Maga crew have failed to find a single shred of evidence linking President Biden to any of their lurid accusations,” says the report by the Congressional Integrity Project, which monitors the Republican investigations. “In fact, Republicans have been forced to walk back claim after claim.”

The report offers an anatomy of a fake scandal, detailing a series of exaggerated assertions that have shriveled under scrutiny. They include Comer saying at his first press conference that he had evidence of “federal crimes committed”, relentlessly invoking “deep state” conspiracy theories and claiming that his whistleblowers “fear for their lives”.

For months, the report says, Comer talked to the media about four individuals he claimed were “whistleblowers”, a term increasingly hijacked by the right. It adds: “Problem is – they weren’t whistleblowers and there were only two people.”

Comer was eventually factchecked by his own colleague on the House oversight committee. Democrat Jamie Raskin wrote to him: “The two individuals your staff specifically identified as the individuals they understood to have been referenced during your March 6 Fox News interview, are not whistleblowers … Your repeated statements about ‘four people’ suggest that either you have intentionally misrepresented the Committee’s investigative progress to your conservative audience or that key investigative steps have been deliberately withheld from Committee Democrats.”.............

Biden impeachment effort ‘eight months of abject failure’, watchdog report says

Congressional Integrity Project reports on several inconsistencies and untruths in James Comer’s House investigation

www.theguardian.com

 

[Taurus]

The man leading the Republican charge for an impeachment inquiry into Joe Biden has endured “eight months of abject failure” in trying to prove the US president guilty of wrongdoing, a watchdog report says.

James Comer, the ambitious chairman of the House of Representatives’ oversight committee, has repeatedly overhyped allegations of bribery and corruption against Biden without once producing hard evidence, according to the Congressional Integrity Project.

The lack of a case underlines the huge political risks facing House Republicans when they return to Capitol Hill on Tuesday. Some are threatening to force a government shutdown unless an impeachment inquiry is opened despite objections from wary Republican colleagues in the Senate.

Comer has been leading an aggressive investigation into unsubstantiated claims that Biden was involved in his son Hunter’s foreign business affairs during his time as vice-president. A CNN/SSRS poll this week found that 61% of Americans believe that Biden did play such a role, including 42% who think he acted illegally. But establishing the link between father and son has proved an elusive holy grail.

“After months of political stunts, dozens of hearings, transcribed interviews, and memos, and despite hours on Fox peddling conspiracy theories, Comer and his Maga crew have failed to find a single shred of evidence linking President Biden to any of their lurid accusations,” says the report by the Congressional Integrity Project, which monitors the Republican investigations. “In fact, Republicans have been forced to walk back claim after claim.”

The report offers an anatomy of a fake scandal, detailing a series of exaggerated assertions that have shriveled under scrutiny. They include Comer saying at his first press conference that he had evidence of “federal crimes committed”, relentlessly invoking “deep state” conspiracy theories and claiming that his whistleblowers “fear for their lives”.

For months, the report says, Comer talked to the media about four individuals he claimed were “whistleblowers”, a term increasingly hijacked by the right. It adds: “Problem is – they weren’t whistleblowers and there were only two people.”

Comer was eventually factchecked by his own colleague on the House oversight committee. Democrat Jamie Raskin wrote to him: “The two individuals your staff specifically identified as the individuals they understood to have been referenced during your March 6 Fox News interview, are not whistleblowers … Your repeated statements about ‘four people’ suggest that either you have intentionally misrepresented the Committee’s investigative progress to your conservative audience or that key investigative steps have been deliberately withheld from Committee Democrats.”.............

Biden impeachment effort ‘eight months of abject failure’, watchdog report says

Congressional Integrity Project reports on several inconsistencies and untruths in James Comer’s House investigation

www.theguardian.com

The sad thing is the 61% who believe something whomped up completely out of thin air. Thus proving most Americans are pathetic and deserve the government they get.

 

[coldseat]

The man leading the Republican charge for an impeachment inquiry into Joe Biden has endured “eight months of abject failure” in trying to prove the US president guilty of wrongdoing, a watchdog report says.

James Comer, the ambitious chairman of the House of Representatives’ oversight committee, has repeatedly overhyped allegations of bribery and corruption against Biden without once producing hard evidence, according to the Congressional Integrity Project.

The lack of a case underlines the huge political risks facing House Republicans when they return to Capitol Hill on Tuesday. Some are threatening to force a government shutdown unless an impeachment inquiry is opened despite objections from wary Republican colleagues in the Senate.

Comer has been leading an aggressive investigation into unsubstantiated claims that Biden was involved in his son Hunter’s foreign business affairs during his time as vice-president. A CNN/SSRS poll this week found that 61% of Americans believe that Biden did play such a role, including 42% who think he acted illegally. But establishing the link between father and son has proved an elusive holy grail.

“After months of political stunts, dozens of hearings, transcribed interviews, and memos, and despite hours on Fox peddling conspiracy theories, Comer and his Maga crew have failed to find a single shred of evidence linking President Biden to any of their lurid accusations,” says the report by the Congressional Integrity Project, which monitors the Republican investigations. “In fact, Republicans have been forced to walk back claim after claim.”

The report offers an anatomy of a fake scandal, detailing a series of exaggerated assertions that have shriveled under scrutiny. They include Comer saying at his first press conference that he had evidence of “federal crimes committed”, relentlessly invoking “deep state” conspiracy theories and claiming that his whistleblowers “fear for their lives”.

For months, the report says, Comer talked to the media about four individuals he claimed were “whistleblowers”, a term increasingly hijacked by the right. It adds: “Problem is – they weren’t whistleblowers and there were only two people.”

Comer was eventually factchecked by his own colleague on the House oversight committee. Democrat Jamie Raskin wrote to him: “The two individuals your staff specifically identified as the individuals they understood to have been referenced during your March 6 Fox News interview, are not whistleblowers … Your repeated statements about ‘four people’ suggest that either you have intentionally misrepresented the Committee’s investigative progress to your conservative audience or that key investigative steps have been deliberately withheld from Committee Democrats.”.............

Biden impeachment effort ‘eight months of abject failure’, watchdog report says

Congressional Integrity Project reports on several inconsistencies and untruths in James Comer’s House investigation

www.theguardian.com

Comer is such and empty suit that he's the perfect Republican. He's just full of hot air for the 24 hr. news media.

Also, he seriously looks and talks like a moran.

 

[DaveXA]

The sad thing is the 61% who believe something whomped up completely out of thin air. Thus proving most Americans are pathetic and deserve the government they get.

100% this. We largely deserve what we get. I know a lot of people object to that characterization, but it's absolutely true.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

McCarthy is such a arse...

McCarthy calls for formal impeachment inquiry into Biden | CNN Politics

House Speaker Kevin McCarthy announced Tuesday he is calling on his committees to open a formal impeachment inquiry into President Joe Biden, even as they have yet to prove allegations he directly profited off his son’s foreign business deals.

www.cnn.com

 

[DaveXA]

McCarthy is such a arse...

McCarthy calls for formal impeachment inquiry into Biden | CNN Politics

House Speaker Kevin McCarthy announced Tuesday he is calling on his committees to open a formal impeachment inquiry into President Joe Biden, even as they have yet to prove allegations he directly profited off his son’s foreign business deals.

www.cnn.com

Maybe, but he's really got no choice. His options frankly are, call for impeachment inquiry, or lose his position as Speaker. The GOP has been hijacked by the nuts and the rest of the party isn't standing up to that nonsense. They're forked.

 

[fooferdoggie]

Maybe, but he's really got no choice. His options frankly are, call for impeachment inquiry, or lose his position as Speaker. The GOP has been hijacked by the nuts and the rest of the party isn't standing up to that nonsense. They're forked.

yep trump opened that door and now no one has the balls to shut it. Trump has done so much damage to the party and they fully deserve it.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Another "normal" Republican surrenders to the extremist.

Utah Republican Sen. Mitt Romney announced Wednesday that he will not run for reelection to the Senate and called for a “new generation of leaders” as he criticized both President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump.

Mitt Romney announces he won’t seek reelection as he calls for ‘new generation of leaders’ | CNN Politics

Utah Republican Sen. Mitt Romney announced Wednesday that he will not run for reelection to the Senate and called for a “new generation of leaders” as he criticized both President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump.

www.cnn.com

Yeah, like Senators Vance, Hawley and his colleague from Utah, Lee. Does he have someone in mind to run for his Senate seat? Has he ever mentored anyone that has sought a position in local or state government? The Senate is failing, in large part, due to Republican extremist and he is ceding its failure.

 

[coldseat]

Another "normal" Republican surrenders to the extremist.

Mitt Romney announces he won’t seek reelection as he calls for ‘new generation of leaders’ | CNN Politics

Utah Republican Sen. Mitt Romney announced Wednesday that he will not run for reelection to the Senate and called for a “new generation of leaders” as he criticized both President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump.

www.cnn.com

Yeah, like Senators Vance, Hawley and his colleague from Utah, Lee. Does he have someone in mind to run for his Senate seat? Has he ever mentored anyone that has sought a position in local or state government? The Senate is failing, in large part, due to Republican extremist and he is ceding its failure.

The Republican party is lost, I don't blame him for retiring/quitting. And honestly, he's 76. At least he isn't hanging on until he's 90.

Until Independent voters stop supporting them, they'll keep chugging along though.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Conservative mutiny forces delay in House Pentagon spending bill

"I don't know that this has anything to do with defense,” Rep. Steve Womack (R-Ark.) said of the GOP infighting.

www.politico.com

“I don’t know that this has anything to do with defense,” Rep. Steve Womack (R-Ark.) said of the GOP infighting...

House Republican infighting forced Speaker Kevin McCarthy to pump the brakes on the chamber’s annual defense funding bill Wednesday, with no guarantee party leaders will find the votes to advance it.

The right-wing $826 billion defense appropriations bill was scheduled to come to the House floor Wednesday afternoon. But that plan was scrapped with conservative lawmakers still not on board, leaving the bill short of the support needed to survive an initial procedural vote.

The measure could still come to the floor in a later vote series, but there are no signs of a deal between McCarthy and his right-wing critics that would shake the bill loose.

The dispute has little to do with the Pentagon bill itself, which Republicans loaded with culture war provisions to appeal to conservatives. But with a potential shutdown looming, McCarthy is facing a litany of demands from his right flank on how to handle federal spending talks with the Senate to avert a funding lapse.
A misstep could spur detractors to push to strip McCarthy of his gavel.
“Nobody’s objecting to what’s in the bill,” said House Rules Committee Chair Tom Cole (R-Okla.). “Everybody’s trying to leverage the bill for something now.”
Republican leaders whipped the defense bill Tuesday night and talks continued Wednesday. The House Rules Committee teed up 184 amendments to the bill Tuesday evening, paving the way for debate on the legislation.

The Republican party has done more to harm the republic than any other foreign entity and their voters continue to reward their efforts. This is the result of certain extremist groups selecting their voters through Gerrymandered districts instead of voters choosing its own representatives. These elected extremist have no interest in serving all Americans, they just need to satisfy their chosen few, the rest of us be damned.

 

[DaveXA]

Conservative mutiny forces delay in House Pentagon spending bill

"I don't know that this has anything to do with defense,” Rep. Steve Womack (R-Ark.) said of the GOP infighting.

www.politico.com

The Republican party has done more to harm the republic than any other foreign entity and their voters continue to reward their efforts. This is the result of certain extremist groups selecting their voters through Gerrymandered districts instead of voters choosing its own representatives. These elected extremist have no interest in serving all Americans, they just need to satisfy their chosen few, the rest of us be damned.

Well, when you've got a not so small percentage of them actually pushing for civil war, well, this is the playbook.

 

[fooferdoggie]

Well, when you've got a not so small percentage of them actually pushing for civil war, well, this is the playbook.

Marjorie Trailer grease strikes again.

 

[LA - L.A.]

Marjorie Trailer grease strikes again.

Food for thought. I have lot of family members who grew up in and still live in trailer homes. Many of them are what you probably consider liberal. Insultingly generalizing and stereotyping people based on housing or other life circumstances only leads to further division and retaliation.

 

[Optimus Prime]

For almost three years now, Republicans have defended or embraced Donald Trump’s authoritarianism — from lies about his 2020 loss to inciting an insurrection — which backfired as Americans proved unexpectedly eager to vote in defense of democracy in the 2022 elections as well as in contests this year.

But Republicans aren’t giving up — they’re going even further. To an unappreciated degree, they have responded to these electoral losses with even more flagrantly anti-democratic maneuvers all around the country.

The pattern is becoming clear: Even as voters are mobilizing to protect democracy at the ballot box, Republicans are redoubling their commitment to the former president’s anti-majoritarian mode of politics. And this, in turn, is motivating voters even more.

Call it the “MAGA doom loop.” It’s playing out in state after state.

Let’s start with Michigan, where Trump’s decisive loss in 2020 led MAGA loyalists to reshape the state Republican Party around devotion to the “big lie.”

Then Democrats resoundingly captured full control of the state’s government in the 2022 midterms, in which election-deniers across the country lost races up and down the ticket.

Now, the Michigan GOP is in shambles. Just this month, the chairman again called for scrutiny of supposed 2020 fraud, prompting infighting over debunked conspiracy theories.

And as the New York Times reports, the party’s descent into MAGA mania is alienating donors, draining volunteer enthusiasm and driving away swing voters. All of that will further dim Trump’s 2024 chances in this crucial battleground state.

Or take Wisconsin. The GOP-controlled state legislature is threatening to impeach state Supreme Court Justice Janet Protasiewicz, who won her seat earlier this year by 11 points, handing liberals a majority.

Democrats ran ads about protecting democracy to boost Protasiewicz, arguing that her ascent would thwart attempts to overrule the state’s 2024 outcome.

Given that this message already proved successful with Democrats and swing voters, it’s all the more striking that Republicans want to respond with impeachment.

Rather than causing introspection, their landslide election loss has them dredging up comments that Protasiewicz made about abortion and gerrymandered maps during her campaign — a concern dismissed by a nonpartisan state panel — as grounds for removal……..

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/09/14/trump-2024-chances-michigan-wisconsin/

 

[Optimus Prime]

Sometimes, people accuse Republican politicians of not having a plan for governing. That’s not quite right.

Their plan is: Blow up all the plans.


This is becoming clear as the federal government hurtles toward another possible shutdown, which multiple layers of schemes, strategies and procedures were supposed to prevent.


At the start of this year, House Republicans demanded a deal to reduce deficits. They then tore up every possible blueprint for achieving that end.

One by one, they rejected proposals to raise taxes; to fund the Internal Revenue Service, which would bring in more of the tax revenue already legally owed; to cut defense spending; to slash entitlements; or, failing all that, to nearly zero out the rest of the budget, as would be necessary arithmetically to achieve the top-line savings that GOP hard-liners claimed they wanted.

With no plausible plan left, they still claimed they really, really wanted to reduce deficits, with some even saying they would default on U.S. debt if they didn’t get their way.

President Biden needed to cave, they said. Cave on what? That wasn’t clear, but he needed to tear up whatever budget he wanted and agree to something that the GOP blessed.

In the end, Biden and House Republicans resolved the drama by agreeing to a budget deal. The deal was somewhat underwhelming; it would keep funding for most government programs basically flat or unchanged (in some cases even a bit higher).

Republicans also agreed not to include any new partisan, nonbudgetary “riders” — i.e., no legislative language related to hot-button issues (abortion, race, guns, climate change) that might derail a bill……..

Almost immediately, Republican lawmakers began reneging on every part of the deal they had wrung out of Biden, as catalogued this month by Bobby Kogan and Jean Ross at the left-leaning Center for American Progress.

The House GOP began writing bills that had deeper cuts to domestic spending programs than anyone had agreed to, for instance.

Head Start, as well as a nutrition program for babies in low-income households and a program ensuring states have clean drinking water, were all placed on the chopping block.


Despite that no-rider commitment, Republican lawmakers also littered bills with poison pills to ensure they wouldn’t pass.

For example, members of the House Freedom Caucus crammed measures relating to race, the LGBTQ+ community, abortion access and climate-change mitigation into the traditionally bipartisan defense bill.


These House budget bills proved so objectionable that they could not secure sufficient support even among Republicans……..

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/09/14/house-republicans-government-shutdown-mccarthy/

 

[nolaspe]

Bobo keeping it family friendly at a Beetlejuice play that she and her john were kicked out of (they were also vaping before the show which was also caught on camera)... I'm sure Al Franken would like to weigh in on this about consequences...