What happens to the Republican Party now? (3 Viewers)

[MT15]

This election nonsense by Trump may end up splitting up the Republican Party. I just don’t see how the one third (?) who are principled conservatives can stay in the same party with Trump sycophants who are willing to sign onto the TX Supreme Court case.

We also saw the alt right types chanting “destroy the GOP” in Washington today because they didn’t keep Trump in power. I think the Q types will also hold the same ill will toward the traditional Republican Party. In fact its quite possible that all the voters who are really in a Trump personality cult will also blame the GOP for his loss. It’s only a matter of time IMO before Trump himself gets around to blaming the GOP.

There is some discussion of this on Twitter. What do you all think?

 

[coldseat]

I hope he's wrong that murders of politicians will be the only way to get people to solve this problem
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Former Homeland Security chief of staff Miles Taylor on Wednesday claimed that American officials are facing a greater threat from radical, right-wing extremism than they faced from terrorists linked to the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.

In a panel discussion with Taylor along with former FBI deputy director of counterintelligence, Frank Figliuzzi, said that his sources are "livid" at the Capitol Police for failing to do their job. He noted that it's a long-running problem that began with Rep. Gabby Giffords (D-AZ) and continued with the Congressional baseball game, Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and now Pelosi.

"To continue off of Frank's point, there's a good guy side of this equation and a bad guy side of the equation," Taylor continued the discussion. "On the good guy side, clearly, the good guyed needed to protect themselves better. They need to think how to increase protection. Let's look at the bad guys. We are seeing a surge in terror threats against public servants, unlike anything we have seen in a modern era. The terrorist threat is greater now than the post-9/11 period. We have seen a tenfold increase to threats to U.S. members of Congress since the early years of the Trump administration. That's a massive spike."

Meanwhile, he explained it isn't just at the federal level. There are county election officials who are being threatened and are wearing bulletproof vests. Even poll workers have become targets of violence.

"You noted at the top of the problem, it's conspiracy theories like we have seen drive other terrorist movements," Taylor continued. "One group of academics showed the political stress index right now in the United States is at the highest levels it has been since the Civil War. Doing the same thing over and over that we have been doing to try to fix this problem is not going to work. I think regardless of the results after the midterms, we will have to look long and hard not just at public safety reforms to protect members of Congress but at major democracy reforms, rank choice voting and open primaries, to get more moderate public figures elected so we don't have people fanning the flames of this violent rhetoric."

Later in the discussion, Taylor also explained that, if he wasn't clear before, those responsible for the violence are coming from the MAGA Republican Party.

"You have been shining a light on this for a long time," he explained. "You know what? People mock us. We are the Chicken Littles of cable news. Okay, the sky is falling, the sky is falling! Since Jan. 6, we have been talking about this. Since that attack, we have had assassination plots against senators, governors, congressmen, cabinet officials, local leaders, and candidates for public office. Now we have an assassination attempt in Pelosi's home that almost -- thank God it wasn't success successful. I worry that's not enough. In fact, it's clear it's not enough to draw attention to it."

He cited some who have claimed the only way to fix it is a high-profile assassination to wake the country up. Someone will have to die before people understand this is dangerous.............

MSN

I don't think anything changes until we get rid of the right wing media empire, which is impossible at this point. They fan and stoke all of these flames 24/7 and are the reason there is so much violence and that we have so many right wing authoritarians in politics. Until that goes away and the American public collectively decides to leave all of those lies and conspiracies' on right wing media behind and those companies fail financially, the violence won't end.

It's a very bleak future that promises to get even bleaker if the Republican's win in the midterms, which seems all but certain.

 

[Optimus Prime]

I don't think anything changes until we get rid of the right wing media empire, which is impossible at this point. They fan and stoke all of these flames 24/7 and are the reason there is so much violence and that we have so many right wing authoritarians in politics. Until that goes away and the American public collectively decides to leave all of those lies and conspiracies' on right wing media behind and those companies fail financially, the violence won't end.

It's a very bleak future that promises to get even bleaker is the Republican's win in the midterms, which seems all but certain.

It is a shame to think that similar jokes would have been told if Pelosi's husband had been killed

 

[Optimus Prime]

It's a very bleak future that promises to get even bleaker is the Republican's win in the midterms, which seems all but certain.

Hillary Clinton warned that voters may not appreciate what's at stake in the midterm elections, and alleging that Republicans are seeking to strip back welfare programs if given control of Congress.

In a Wednesday appearance on MSNBC with host Joy Reid, Clinton discussed next Tuesday's election, when Republicans are expected to take back control of the House, and could win back the Senate.

Clinton said she believes Americans don't "really understand" what that would mean.

"I think that with all of the noise that we've gotten in this election season I don't think that people are really able to grasp that," said Clinton.

The said that "the Republicans in the House and others like the chair of the Republican Senate Campaign Committee are on record saying they're going to put Social Security and Medicare up for a vote."..........

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[GrandAdmiral]

Hillary Clinton warned that voters may not appreciate what's at stake in the midterm elections, and alleging that Republicans are seeking to strip back welfare programs if given control of Congress.

In a Wednesday appearance on MSNBC with host Joy Reid, Clinton discussed next Tuesday's election, when Republicans are expected to take back control of the House, and could win back the Senate.

Clinton said she believes Americans don't "really understand" what that would mean.

"I think that with all of the noise that we've gotten in this election season I don't think that people are really able to grasp that," said Clinton.

The said that "the Republicans in the House and others like the chair of the Republican Senate Campaign Committee are on record saying they're going to put Social Security and Medicare up for a vote."..........

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There's a lot the voting populace don't understand or care about, which is exactly why we always find ourselves in these predicaments.

 

[samiam5211]

The Republicans won't be stripping back anything because Biden will veto anything they pass.

It's going to be two years of government shutdowns and impeachment fervor.

 

[superchuck500]

But rural Americans don't really care. What they care about is guns, property rights and jobs.

And apparently they’re also highly motivated by the few thousand (?) cases of juvenile transgender therapy that happen in the US.

It’s so ridiculous. Republicans literally say “Americans don’t care about January 6, they care about practical things like gas prices.” And then 75% of their campaigning is the horrors of trans!”

 

[nolaspe]

This is why magatards are so absolutely stupid and yet dangerous to our democracy at the same time...

 

[Optimus Prime]

PHOENIX — The young conservative activist had a plan, and he wanted the veteran Arizona House speaker to push it.


The two men huddled at a barbecue joint in January as the activist — Tyler Bowyer, the chief operating officer of the pro-Trump youth group Turning Point USA — unspooled his demands: Republican legislators, he insisted, should carve up booming and fast-diversifying Maricopa County, diluting the power of Democrats in a state that had helped deliver Joe Biden the presidency.


But the Republican House speaker, Rusty Bowers, ultimately balked at redrawing the state’s map to seize partisan advantage. As the pair’s political differences grew, the activist, who was half the speaker’s age, vowed revenge.

“Rusty, I will be working toward ensuring you do not win your election in 2022,” Bowyer warned in a March text message obtained by The Washington Post. “I appreciate your service, I will do whatever it takes to ensure you are retired.”


Soon, the state legislator faced a rush of ridicule on social media and in negative ads as Turning Point’s political arm launched a campaign to “Replace RINO Rusty.”

The speaker lost his primary for an open state Senate seat in August to a Turning Point-backed Republican who called the 2020 election a “conspiracy headed up by the Devil himself.”


The takedown of one of the most powerful Republicans in the state illustrates the rise of Turning Point USA and its network of affiliates, which have pushed beyond their core mission of energizing college conservatives to turn Arizona into a laboratory for a new brand of Republican organizing.

The decade-old nonprofit organization has helped transform the state GOP, seeking to elevate acolytes of former president Donald Trump and purge old-guard centrists who led in the tradition of the late Republican senator John McCain……..

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/11/04/arizona-gop-turning-point-usa/

 

[MT15]

So, the party that used to tout itself as “law and order” just published huge document trying to discredit the FBI and DOJ for one simple reason: they fear that Trump will be indicted for some of his many crimes. But a closer look reveals that where the document is concerned - much like Trump himself - the emperor has no clothes…..

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Hmmm.
Was there anyone on this thread last winter who predicted this?
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Democrats aim to hold the line against heavy U.S. midterm election losses

If Abigail Spanberger, a moderate congresswoman from a liberal-leaning Virginia district outside Washington loses her re-election bid on Tuesday, it could be the harbinger of a midterm bloodbath for the Democratic Party. That was why Spanberger was at a winery this week imploring volunteers to...

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[samiam5211]

Hmmm.
Was there anyone on this thread last winter who predicted this?
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Democrats aim to hold the line against heavy U.S. midterm election losses

If Abigail Spanberger, a moderate congresswoman from a liberal-leaning Virginia district outside Washington loses her re-election bid on Tuesday, it could be the harbinger of a midterm bloodbath for the Democratic Party. That was why Spanberger was at a winery this week imploring volunteers to...

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Not just in this thread, but everyone on earth predicts that the president's party loses the midterms.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Not just in this thread, but everyone on earth predicts that the president's party loses the midterms.

LOL...Pay attention.
My point is I said it (numerous times) here on this thread last January. 10/11 months ago.

 

[SFIDC3]

LOL...Pay attention.
My point is I said it (numerous times) here on this thread last January. 10/11 months ago.

Aren’t you also the guy who says that Trump no longer has a hold on your beloved Repub party? You definitely deserve a cookie….or something…..

 

[samiam5211]

LOL...Pay attention.
My point is I said it (numerous times) here on this thread last January. 10/11 months ago.

Yea so. Do you think you made some incredible prediction?

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Aren’t you also the guy who says that Trump no longer has a hold on your beloved Repub party? You definitely deserve a cookie….or something…..

Yes.
I am disgusted to say that I was wrong about that.
Disgusted.
Yet I deserve credit for the other prediction.

 

[SteveSBrickNJ]

Yea so. Do you think you made some incredible prediction?

In the realistic world, last January my prediction did not seem(to me) to be so incredible.
Yet this thread has many liberals who do not live in the realistic world.
Last January they failed to agree with my common sense prediction.
I told them I'd not forget....I'd appear on this thread and have a smile as I remind them that I was correct.
Did that...done!

 

[samiam5211]

In the realistic world, last January my prediction did not seem(to me) to be so incredible.
Yet this thread has many liberals who do not live in the realistic world.
Last January they failed to agree with my common sense prediction.
I told them I'd not forget....I'd appear on this thread and have a smile as I remind them that I was correct.
Did that...done!

It sure seems like you are begging us for a participation trophy.

 

[Taurus]

I get a few calls every election cycle from polling companies and the "Heading in the right direction" question always amuses me.

SCOTUS has gone full Taliban, Roe is overturned, the GOP is waging a successful war on democracy itself and the self-absorbed, cowardly moron who killed 200,000 Americans is poised to run for President again. You're damn skippy we're heading in the wrong direction, but it's not because of what the party in power is doing.