What happens to the Democratic Party now? (1 Viewer)

[Heathen]

I’m sure much of us are having 2016 flashbacks this morning with a sick feeling to our stomachs..

2 of the last 3 elections Democrats have lost to a far right demagogue

Harris didn’t get close in many states to even Biden’s performance. We could very well lose the Presidency, Senate AND House depending on results the next few days…..

What went wrong?
What could’ve been done better?
What can we change in the future to ensure voters are motivated like they were when Obama was elected?

Democrats have no choice but to admit there’s a huge problem with some aspect of their platform— and to do a deep introspection of what’s going wrong..

 

[SystemShock]

Thank you for confirming that you realize you were mistaken about what monolithic means in the context I was using it and that based on what you keep saying you view Christians as monolithic.

More blah blah.

If you paid attention to what I said, instead of just hearing what you want to hear, you'd already know the answer to that question. I'm fairly certain everyone else knows my answer to that question.

Really? You can't even answer a simple yes or no question? Without the holier-than-thou attitude?

Believing that Jesus died on the cross for humanity's sins and resurrected is the central core belief of Christians, no matter the denomination. Or is that subjective too? That's a yes or no question, BTW.

 

[J-DONK]

I doesn't.
This is what Christian apologists do, trying to reconcile the cruelty, the immorality (was well as the unscientific) in the Bible, made cruel and immoral by the evolution of secular humanism.

I love it when people just say "No" like they are an SME.

The Bible and homosexuality - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Skip to Interpretation - you will find a summary of the debate on the topic.

Please don't come back with the sterotype of attacking wikipedia. It has sources, and you can use that as a jumping off point to research the topic.

FYI: I'm am atheist.

 

[LA 2 L.A.]

Really? You can't even answer a simple yes or no question? Without the holier-than-thou attitude?

You know I'm not Christian, or you should know if you were paying attention. It's not me being holier than you. It's just me pointing out a simple truth. You don't listen to people. If you would have been listening to what I said instead of hearing "blah, blah, blah" in your head, you'd know I'm not a Christian.

Believing that Jesus died on the cross for humanity's sins and resurrected is the central core belief of Christians, no matter the denomination. Or is that subjective too? That's a yes or no question, BTW.

You're wrong.

There are sects/denominations of Pentecostal's that don't believe Christ died for humankind's sins. I've already told you this. Those same sects also believe that the path to god is through baptism with the Holy Spirit and not through baptism with Christ. I've already told you that as well. There are other sects of Christians who also don't believe Christ died for humankind's sins.

 

[zztop]

Centuries ago, the concept of transgenderism didn't exist, same for queer, non-binary, etc

pre-colonial 'murica there was an acknowledged 3rd gender (or two spirit) by native americans... I'm not sure if you mean that it just didn't exist centuries ago, or the 'modern' word(s) used for descriptions of certain people didn't exist back then.

Two Spirit and LGBTQ+ Identities: Today and Centuries Ago

Post submitted by Ana Flores, HRC Senior Manager, Inclusion, Education & Engagement

www.hrc.org

 

[J-DONK]

pre-colonial 'murica there was an acknowledged 3rd gender (or two spirit) by native americans... I'm not sure if you mean that it just didn't exist centuries ago, or the 'modern' word(s) used for descriptions of certain people didn't exist back then.

Two Spirit and LGBTQ+ Identities: Today and Centuries Ago

Post submitted by Ana Flores, HRC Senior Manager, Inclusion, Education & Engagement

www.hrc.org

Also,

The Galli: Breaking Roman Gender Norms

The Galli were Roman priests with ambiguous gender identities, and many modern transgender and nonbinary people have since identified with them. Here we consider their role in Roman society and literature and investigate their presence in Roman Britain.

www.english-heritage.org.uk

The Galli were priests in the cult of the goddess Cybele. They may have been devoted specifically to her consort Attis, who had castrated himself in a fit of divine frenzy. On initiation to the cult the Galli also castrated themselves, and afterwards dressed exclusively in women’s clothing. They therefore occupied an ambiguous space in Roman notions of gender that many modern transgender and nonbinary people have identified with

 

[Dragon]

pre-colonial 'murica there was an acknowledged 3rd gender (or two spirit) by native americans... I'm not sure if you mean that it just didn't exist centuries ago, or the 'modern' word(s) used for descriptions of certain people didn't exist back then.

Two Spirit and LGBTQ+ Identities: Today and Centuries Ago

Post submitted by Ana Flores, HRC Senior Manager, Inclusion, Education & Engagement

www.hrc.org

Actually, many cultures around the world recognized gender diversity long before modern terms like “transgender” or “non-binary” existed. Indigenous groups such as the Navajo (with their concept of Two-Spirit people), South Asia’s Hijras, and the Zapotec Muxes are just a few examples. These identities may not have used today’s labels, but the experiences — living outside binary gender roles — definitely existed for centuries.

In the Viking age "ergi" implied effeminacy or a man taking on a woman’s role — especially in sexual or magical contexts. Seiðr, a powerful form of Norse magic, was often practiced by women while men who practiced it, like the god Odin, were seen as crossing gender lines.

 

[Dragon]

Honestly, I couldn’t care less what people wear — as long as the important bits are covered. Beaches are a whole different story though. Quick cultural tip: in Denmark, it’s totally normal for people to change clothes right there on the sand. Men, women, kids — doesn’t matter. So yes, you might see a naked person for a moment. The unspoken rule? Be cool, look away, pretend you’re really into that cloud over the ocean. We call it manners.

 

[LA 2 L.A.]

Honestly, I couldn’t care less what people wear — as long as the important bits are covered. Beaches are a whole different story though. Quick cultural tip: in Denmark, it’s totally normal for people to change clothes right there on the sand. Men, women, kids — doesn’t matter. So yes, you might see a naked person for a moment. The unspoken rule? Be cool, look away, pretend you’re really into that cloud over the ocean. We call it manners.

If I openly changed clothes on a beach, everybody would flee and never come back to that beach ever again. They wouldn't even have to look. They'd just know.

 

[Dragon]

If I openly changed clothes on a beach, everybody would flee and never come back to that beach ever again. They wouldn't even have to look. They'd just know.

Probably don't compare with California but this is the beach 300 m from my house

 

[LA 2 L.A.]

Proberly don't compare with California but this is the beach 300 m from my house

It has the same natural beauty as the beaches here and it looks like it's not as privatized, commercialized, or crowded as the beaches out here in California. If you've got views of mountains, you've got all the best things with none of the nuisances.

 

[Dragon]

It has the same natural beauty as the beaches here and it looks like it's not as privatized, commercialized, or crowded as the beaches out here in California. If you've got views of mountains, you've got all the best things with none of the nuisances.

No mountains and no private beaches. All beaches are public and no vendors allowed ON the beach. Even if you own a beach front house, an area 5 yards from the water is still public domaine. The highest point in Denmark is 561 feet (171 meters) above sea level.

 

[LA 2 L.A.]

No mountains and no private beaches. All beaches are public and no vendors allowed ON the beach. Even if you own a beach front house, an area 5 yards from the water is still public domaine. The highest point in Denmark is 561 feet (171 meters) above sea level.

Sounds nice. I had no idea that Denmark is so flat. It's Louisiana flat. I grew up about 15 miles from the Gulf of Mexico, so I'm familiar with a flat shore line extending all the way to the horizons. The water along the beaches in Louisiana is murky because of the Mississippi river. The water is yellow-brownish instead of blue.

 

[Dragon]

Sounds nice. I had no idea that Denmark is so flat. It's Louisiana flat. I grew up about 15 miles from the Gulf of Mexico, so I'm familiar with a flat shore line extending all the way to the horizons. The water along the beaches in Louisiana is murky because of the Mississippi river. The water is yellow-brownish instead of blue.

We’re an island nation — one peninsula connected to Germany and over 500 islands scattered across the sea. Copenhagen sits on the largest of them (if you don’t count Greenland, which is technically ours but a whole different story). With all that water around us, it’s no mystery why the Vikings took to ships. When most of your country is coastline, you either become a great sailor… or get really good at skipping stones.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

We’re an island nation — one peninsula connected to Germany and over 500 islands scattered across the sea. Copenhagen sits on the largest of them (if you don’t count Greenland, which is technically ours but a whole different story). With all that water around us, it’s no mystery why the Vikings took to ships. When most of your country is coastline, you either become a great sailor… or get really good at skipping stones.

I thought America bought Greenland already.

 

[Dragon]

I thought America bought Greenland already.

LOL - not a chance in Hell

 

[MT15]

Have you read what Genesis says? Did you ask your pastor where did he get the added information?

But don't take it from me.

What was the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah? | GotQuestions.org

What was the sin of Sodom and Gomorrah? Why did God judge the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah so severely?

www.gotquestions.org

I think that's it from me.

Carry on, y'all.

That site is just an Evangelical propaganda site. Of course it gives the standard Evangelical response. The man I follow seems to have studied the ancient texts and worked with translating them. And before anyone misunderstands - I read his posts, I don’t follow him in the biblical sense, lol.

I don’t know enough about the scholarly historical work being done on translations to know whether he is on the level or not - but then, neither do you.

I was just struck by how the same translational explanation I saw online was posted by L.A.

 

[brandon]

Imagine that, Mr. Passive-Aggressive.

I don't think there was anything really passive about what I said, but let me be more direct so there's no ambiguity.

It's hypocritical of you to condemn Christianity for being homophobic when you are the most transphobic (and probably homophobic) person on this board, even including most of the conservatives.

Centuries ago, the concept of transgenderism didn't exist, same for queer, non-binary, etc., heck, not even the concept of gender. They didn't even have a word for homosexuality (a word which I believe was coined in the 18th or 19th century), they just described the act; even transgenderism is described as "A woman shall not wear a man's garment, nor shall a man put on a woman's cloak"... and that's the best they could do with the limited language they had.

The definition of a red herring.

This has nothing to do with my point in the slightest.

Transphobic, what a loaded word. Not 100% ideological compliance? Transphobic!

I don't care anything about your ideological compliance. I care about your transphobia, and I care about your hypocrisy for calling out Christianity for the exact things you believe.

The problem here is that you find yourself in alignment with the ancient texts you have so thoroughly condemned and don't know how to reconcile your hate for Christianity with your hate for the LGBTQ+ community.

 

[bird]

If I openly changed clothes on a beach, everybody would flee and never come back to that beach ever again. They wouldn't even have to look. They'd just know.

Um, same here.