What are your important issues? (1 Viewer)

[wardorican]

Forget the current headlines. Forget the manufactured talking points. What are the big issues you care about? Or the small ones that don't get enough attention?

I'm just going to rattle off a few. I may dig into these more later. In no special order...

1. Infrastructure investment. The major categories being road transportation, flood protection / drainage, electrical grid resiliency, and better mass transit, especially rail. Our rail systems, outside of a few areas like Chicago, NYC, DC.. are just awful. They don't serve enough of the areas. They aren't tying the Suburbs, and towns nearby to the major city centers and major concentrations of Industry.
   1. A - I'd have much preferred no tax cut for the wealthy, and use that money towards Infrastructure. I don't mind some of the corporate tax cuts (not a fan of profitable companies finding ways to pay $0 in taxes.. that's unfair), but take a little back to go towards infrastructure and mass transit, which will boost productivity and lower congestion in major cities.
2. Wage growth. Not just min wage, all wages. Not sure what the government policy could be to drive this, but it's a huge pet issue for me.
3. Technology. Finding the balance between a company being large enough to have stability/security (think Apple, Microsoft, Samsung) to have things work well, but no so large as to stifle all competition and drive up prices. Also, who controls/owns our data. If my data is so valuable, why can't I be compensated for it?
4. Education funding. It's ridiculous how much the States cut from Colleges and how little they controlled their growth since the 1990's. That's why tuition is out of control. So, it's not just the funding issue, but also the lack of forcing public Universities to cap operating budget increases. In college, tuition increases was probably one of the biggest things I tried to fight against when in Student Government. We usually failed, but I did get one win on that topic, when I realized the committee that year was being somewhat dishonest about the increases, and called them out in public about it.

I care about a lot of other things, but I'm going to stop with these four.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Uh oh! That is happening Tuesday? I was unaware of that.

Relative to that... I am pretty concerned about making an announcement and change like that on SR after that disaster at the dome today. No one is going to be in a good mood this week. Perhaps I should put it off for a few days?

-Andrus

Speaking only for myself, I look forward to that announcement. It's something to distract from the weekend where the Louisiana team I live and die for crapped the bed while the one I despise put up a big W.

If it helps, I know I'll be here whenever you go live.

 

[Dadsdream]

Speaking only for myself, I look forward to that announcement. It's something to distract from the weekend where the Louisiana team I live and die for crapped the bed while the one I despise put up a big W.

If it helps, I know I'll be here whenever you go live.

Same here.
It's like ripping off the band aid. Get it over and done.
It's a stellar alignment when we agree.

 

[Beach Friends]

I won't. I am looking at this from a standpoint of public school education, where nobody gets to decide on the morality of the subjects offered.

Edit: Meant to add that I would happy to take this to the debate board and make it official.

Nobody considers the morality of the subjects offered? Seems like that would result in some rather odd classes.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Same here.
It's like ripping off the band aid. Get it over and done.
It's a stellar alignment when we agree.

You just made my weekend a little brighter, DD...

... don't let it go to your head.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Nobody considers the morality of the subjects offered? Seems like that would result in some rather odd classes.

Not at all. The curriculum should be chosen by professionals who base their decisions on what students need to know in order to be prepared for post high school life, whether that's college, a trade school, or straight into the workforce.

However, if it helps, I elaborated further along in the thread to make it clear that I was referring strictly to moral judgments passed by someone solely for religious reasons in a public school setting.

 

[SystemShock]

... as for morality,

Nobody considers the morality of the subjects offered? Seems like that would result in some rather odd classes.

Why should it be that morality be considered when teaching facts? Morality is highly subjective, especially when based on religion.

 

[Lazybones]

... as for morality,


Why should it be that morality be considered when teaching facts? Morality is highly subjective, especially when based on religion.

Facts are subjective as well. It’s obvious just on this board. What some posters claim as fact, others disagree and rightfully so. This is the danger imo the public starts this line of thinking.

according to you, fact-aborting a fetus is not killing a baby.

according to me, fact-aborting a fetus is killing a baby.

you can argue the semantics and so can I. Until someone shows me a woman who gives birth to anything other than a baby, abortion=killing a baby. Fact

 

[N.O.Bronco]

Disagreeing with facts(“a thing that is known or proved to be true”) magically makes them subjective, that’s interesting.

 

[Beach Friends]

... as for morality,


Why should it be that morality be considered when teaching facts? Morality is highly subjective, especially when based on religion.

Well, I guess instead of wood shop one could teach how to join and be successful in a cartel.

 

[SystemShock]

Facts are subjective as well. It’s obvious just on this board. What some posters claim as fact, others disagree and rightfully so. This is the danger imo the public starts this line of thinking.

according to you, fact-aborting a fetus is not killing a baby.

according to me, fact-aborting a fetus is killing a baby.

you can argue the semantics and so can I. Until someone shows me a woman who gives birth to anything other than a baby, abortion=killing a baby. Fact

So, I replied to a post referring to what is taught in school. But apparently you want to have a conversation about abortion, which I don't believe is a subject matter in school curricula.

In any case, facts are facts. You can interpret/give certain meaning to a fact, but that doesn't change the fact.

 

[GMRfellowtraveller]

Facts are subjective as well. It’s obvious just on this board. What some posters claim as fact, others disagree and rightfully so. This is the danger imo the public starts this line of thinking.

according to you, fact-aborting a fetus is not killing a baby.

according to me, fact-aborting a fetus is killing a baby.

you can argue the semantics and so can I. Until someone shows me a woman who gives birth to anything other than a baby, abortion=killing a baby. Fact

Those are opinions you’re trying to label as facts
They are opinions
They are not facts

 

[SystemShock]

Well, I guess instead of wood shop one could teach how to join and be successful in a cartel.

I am trying to keep my responses within the standards laid by Andrus, but it is really hard when people make "arguments" like yours.

 

[GMRfellowtraveller]

I am trying to keep my responses within the standards laid by Andrus, but it is really hard when people make "arguments" like yours.

New board in a nutshell

 

[Beach Friends]

I am trying to keep my responses within the standards laid by Andrus, but it is really hard when people make "arguments" like yours.

I guess my example too clearly demonstrated that morality is a factor when considering subjects to be taught in school.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

I guess my example too clearly demonstrated that morality is a factor when considering subjects to be taught in school.

Your example clearly demonstrated that you either lack a basic understanding of the purpose of schools or your lack of interest in an honest dialogue.

 

[Beach Friends]

Your example clearly demonstrated that you either lack a basic understanding of the purpose of schools or your lack of interest in an honest dialogue.

You made the specious claim that morality is not considered in selecting what courses to offer. I used an extreme example to show what a course might look like if that was actually true.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

You made the specious claim that morality is not considered in selecting what courses to offer. I used an extreme example to show what a course might look like if that was actually true.

While ignoring my clarification and still ignoring the entire purpose of public schools. Your example was ridiculous and well below the level of discourse we should expect.

If you want to address my actual point, I am always willing to discuss it.

 

[SystemShock]

I guess my example too clearly demonstrated that morality is a factor when considering subjects to be taught in school.

What @cuddlemonkey said. Your "example" is not an "extreme" example. It is an asinine example. The idea that schools would teach how to murder, rape, rob banks etc if morality wasn't a factor in selecting a curriculum is asinine.