We Need to Talk About Trump's Project 2025 & Trump's Manifesto "Mandate for Leadership: The Conservative Promise" (1 Viewer)

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    I think Trump's Project 2025 needs it's own thread to make as many people as possible aware of it, how Trump and the people he's surrounded himself with are dead serious about making it happen, and how devastating it will be if we allow Trump to make it happen. These are the various pages on his website which should show Trump means business. Trump's not just wishing or theorizing, he's planning and implementing.

    Trump and his minion's home page (the bolding is their's, not mine):


    "It is not enough for conservatives to win elections. If we are going to rescue the country from the grip of the radical Left, we need both a governing agenda and the right people in place, ready to carry this agenda out on Day One of the next conservative Administration.​
    This is the goal of the 2025 Presidential Transition Project. The project will build on four pillars that will, collectively, pave the way for an effective conservative Administration."​


    Trump's policy agenda page:


    "This book is an invitation for you the reader—Mr. Smith, Mrs. Smith, and Ms. Smith—to come to Washington or support those who can. Our goal is to assemble an army of aligned, vetted, trained, and prepared conservatives to go to work on Day One to deconstruct the Administrative State.​
    ...​
    The next conservative President will enter office on January 20, 2025, with a simple choice: greatness or failure. It will be a daunting test, but no more so than every other generation of Americans has faced and passed. The Conservative Promise represents the best effort of the conservative movement in 2023—and the next conservative President’s last opportunity to save our republic."​



    Trump's personnel (recruitment/application) page, bolding is mine:


    "Please fill out the questionnaire below and upload your resume for inclusion in the Presidential Personnel Database if you would like to be considered for positions in a presidential Administration.​
    Project 2025 is the effort of a massive coalition of conservative organizations that have come together to ensure a successful Administration begins in January 2025. With the right conservative policy recommendations and properly vetted and trained personnel to implement them, we will take back our government. Project 2025 is being organized by The Heritage Foundation."​


    Trump's training page:


    "The Presidential Administration Academy is a one-of-a-kind educational and skill-building program designed to prepare and equip future political appointees now to be ready on Day One of the next conservative Administration. This academy provides aspiring appointees with the insight, background knowledge, and expertise in governance to immediately begin rolling back destructive policy and advancing conservative ideas in the federal government."​


    Trump's first 180 days playbook page:


    "The time is short, and conservatives need a plan. The project will create a playbook of actions to be taken in the first 180 days of the new Administration to bring quick relief to Americans suffering from the Left’s devastating policies."​


    Trump's playbook, bolding mine (I've downloaded the pdf of their playbook for when Trump eventually pulls it from his website once the backlash really kicks in):


    "This book is an invitation for you the reader—Mr. Smith, Mrs. Smith, and Ms. Smith—to come to Washington or support those who can. Our goal is to assemble an army of aligned, vetted, trained, and prepared conservatives to go to work on Day One to deconstruct the Administrative State.​
    ...​
    This is an agenda prepared by and for conservatives who will be ready on Day One of the next Administration to save our country. The Heritage Foundation is once again facilitating this work, but as our dozens of partners and hundreds of authors will attest, this book is the work of the entire conservative movement.​
    ...​
    The next conservative President will enter office on January 20, 2025 ... The Conservative Promise represents the best effort of the conservative movement in 2023—and the next conservative President’s last opportunity to save our republic."​

    The link to the 111 groups Trump and his minions have cobbled together in a coalition to help Trump achieve his agenda.


    Groups include:​
    • ALEC - the Koch brother's foundation that has written all of the state laws that undermine child labor protection, worker's rights, air and water pollution protections, voter's rights, government assistance programs from those that need the help, and tax codes that made sure the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes.
    • Moms For Liberty - the group leading the charge to ban any book that treats anyone, who is not white, heterosexual, cis and Christian, as being equal and deserving of acceptance, tolerance and respect.
    • National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation - which works for corporations to prevent and bust worker's unions to help corporations pay a non living wage to employees and force them to work under horrible conditions.
    • Tea Party Patriots - the group that is MAGA and has taken control of the Republican party and supports Trump's efforts to stage a coup on Jan 6th so that he could stay in power even though he lost the election.
    • Turning Point USA - run by Charlie Kirk who fully embraces Christian Nationalism and the reducing of women to just being homemakers dedicated only to serving their husbands and their family, in that order

    Here are some articles and videos that give an overview of what Trump's Project 2025 plans to do if Trump wins the presidency:







    The Heritage Foundation cooked up this plan during the Reagan administration, but Reagan didn't let the Heritage Foundation fully implement it. Trump has claimed it for himself and has made it his plan, because it plays into the ultimate power and control that Trump wants. See the videos below.









    No matter how annoying, frustrating, distasteful, or unappealing it may be, either Biden or Trump will be the next president. No one else has a chance at winning the election. If Biden wins, we have issues to solve, but we still have our democracy.

    If Trump wins, we lose our democracy and have to fight for our freedom, if we aren't white, Christian, cis, heterosexual men who believe in the divine right of white, Christian, cis, heterosexual men to sit in domination over all others.

    The bottom line is this, vote for Biden if you want to preserve our democracy, or don't vote for Biden if you want to chance Trump winning, which would bring an end to our democracy.

    That's the grounded-in-reality choice folks, like it or not. Please vote for Biden so that we all have the freedom to live our lives how we want, to argue with each other, and to protest without fear of being imprisoned or "falling" out of window to our death.

    This election is not a drill, it's the real deal.
     
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    It seems there might be some stealth editing going on in the Trump Project 2025 website. Page numbers have changed.

     
    It seems there might be some stealth editing going on in the Trump Project 2025 website. Page numbers have changed.


    That's one of the reasons I downloaded it to my desktop on the day I started this thread. If anyone wants a copy of the original, just let me know.
     
    I've checked that website four times and can't find any variation of the word priority on it.

    Please quote or screen capture where you are reading the words "other priorities."

    There's nothing more to discuss if you don't do that, because it means the website does not say what you claim it says.


    That's one of the most depraved things I've heard.


    How you gonna lead on climate change with no democracy? Stop and think.


    How you gonna lead on climate change without civil servants working for regulatory agencies? Stop and think.


    How you gonna do that without democracy and civil servants? Stop and think.


    How you gonna do that without democracy and civil servants? Stop and think.


    Only to you, so far, and that's because you're reading things into it that aren't actually there. Slow down and read more carefully.
    You can be obtuse, but placement of information on a website is based on the issues that they want to highlight. They don't use the word priority, but where they place information on the website indicates what they believe are the most dangerous parts about Project 2025. On the top page, there are 5 blocks, and 4 of the the 5 cite issues, and one block lists "and much, much more". You have to click on "much, much more" to open up the block to see the rest of the concerns with Project 2025. The last bullet is "Roll back all the progress we’ve made on tackling climate change. (pg 522-534)". In my opinion, that should be highlighted, not buried as the last bullet! Our lives, not just our welfare and way of living, depend on the climate change fight winning. If we survive climate change, then we can move on to other needs.

    Even without civil servants, democracy, and very poor liberties for their citizens, etc, other nations are still pursuing climate change, but many nations look to America to lead. If we roll back, it will lead some nations to follow. Maybe China will stay on course, etc., but it would be a catastrophe if America doesn't continue its progress, because we are big CO2 producers. Stop and think about that.
     
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    They don't use the word priority...
    That's correct. They don't list anything as priorities.

    It's also correct that you originally claimed they did. This is just one of the instances were you claimed they used the labels priorities.

    Climate is listed as the last item under other priorities.​

    I'm choosing to not reply in kind to your insults.

    The idea that we can do anything, let alone fight climate change, if regulatory agencies and other agencies are stripped of personnel or filled with cronies is completely unhinged from practical reality and asinine.
     
    You’re not a serious person. You’re like a parrot. You don’t really have an understanding of the topics being discussed. You just repeat stuff you see like a parrot repeats still it hears.

    If the only defense the Christofascists have is to try to mock outrage to Trump’s Project 2025, they’ve already lost the fight. Of course they can’t defend what is actually in this anti-American manifesto because they know it isn’t what most people want.

    The fascists overplayed their hand too soon.
     
    If the only defense the Christofascists have is to try to mock outrage to Trump’s Project 2025, they’ve already lost the fight. Of course they can’t defend what is actually in this anti-American manifesto because they know it isn’t what most people want.

    The fascists overplayed their hand too soon.
    It's just funny to see how people like you live in such a bubble that you reflexively call me a christofascist eventhough I've never posted anything here about religion or supporting any religious policies.

    I see you are big on silly political labels. It's laughable that you constantly talk about one reason why you support Biden is to save democracy from Trump. 😆

    You act as if we haven't been through a Trump presidency. Democracy is still alive after that Trump presidency.



    When you’re a Democrat, “Democracy” means conspiring in a years-long coverup to hide the fact that your electoral candidate and sitting President is cognitively compromised and mentally unfit, rigging your own primary for one candidate by blocking alternatives, then disenfranchising your own party voters by organizing a coup to remove him once the coverup is exposed.

    When you’re a Democrat, “Democracy” means waging an unprecedented lawfare campaign against your political opponent, trying to imprison him, and jailing as many of his supporters and advisors as possible before an election.

    When you’re a Democrat, “Democracy” means attempting to remove your political opponent’s name from the ballot, opposing all election security measures, making it harder to prosecute voter fraud, and killing legislation that would strengthen laws against non-citizens voting in national elections.

    When you’re a Democrat, “Democracy” means censoring the internet, employing US intelligence agencies to outsource first-amendment violations to third party surrogates, and jailing citizens for memes.

    When you’re a Democrat, “Democracy” means that when your political opponent is being prosecuted, any criticisms of prosecutors, judges and courts is subverting the rule of law, but when you relentlessly attack Justices you don’t like in order to undermine the legitimacy of the nation’s highest court, that is upholding the rule of law.

    When you’re a Democrat, “Democracy” means recognizing that your policies are not popular, that a new electorate is required, and view the Americans that die as a result of the open border necessary to achieve that end as collateral damage in service to a greater good.

    When you’re a Democrat, “Democracy” really means “Democrat Power.”
     
    It's just funny to see how people like you live in such a bubble that you reflexively call me a christofascist eventhough I've never posted anything here about religion or supporting any religious policies.

    I see you are big on silly political labels. It's laughable that you constantly talk about one reason why you support Biden is to save democracy from Trump. 😆

    You act as if we haven't been through a Trump presidency. Democracy is still alive after that Trump presidency.



    When you’re a Democrat, “Democracy” means conspiring in a years-long coverup to hide the fact that your electoral candidate and sitting President is cognitively compromised and mentally unfit, rigging your own primary for one candidate by blocking alternatives, then disenfranchising your own party voters by organizing a coup to remove him once the coverup is exposed.

    When you’re a Democrat, “Democracy” means waging an unprecedented lawfare campaign against your political opponent, trying to imprison him, and jailing as many of his supporters and advisors as possible before an election.

    When you’re a Democrat, “Democracy” means attempting to remove your political opponent’s name from the ballot, opposing all election security measures, making it harder to prosecute voter fraud, and killing legislation that would strengthen laws against non-citizens voting in national elections.

    When you’re a Democrat, “Democracy” means censoring the internet, employing US intelligence agencies to outsource first-amendment violations to third party surrogates, and jailing citizens for memes.

    When you’re a Democrat, “Democracy” means that when your political opponent is being prosecuted, any criticisms of prosecutors, judges and courts is subverting the rule of law, but when you relentlessly attack Justices you don’t like in order to undermine the legitimacy of the nation’s highest court, that is upholding the rule of law.

    When you’re a Democrat, “Democracy” means recognizing that your policies are not popular, that a new electorate is required, and view the Americans that die as a result of the open border necessary to achieve that end as collateral damage in service to a greater good.

    When you’re a Democrat, “Democracy” really means “Democrat Power.”

    He wasn’t talking about you, unless you identify yourself as a Christofascist. You are just a mouthpiece. Somebody they use. They would eventually come for you, too, if they would get into power. But they won’t.
     
    I quoted all your own words from that post you made. I want to thank you for spamming this thread. I'm sincerely grateful that you are helping to keep this thread near the top of the list of threads on the main page. I'm really, really grateful that you are confirming that his is an issue Trump and his supporters are really, really, really crapping their diapers and pants over.

    That let's the rest of us know to keep metaphorically loudly banging the drum on this issue, reaching a crescendo come October that we carry through to the day after the election.

    Thankfully news outlets are already doing their part to make sure America knows this is Donald Trump's Project 2025, no matter how much Trump and his supporters lie and say it isn't.

    Please keep posting in this thread on a daily basis to keep it at the top of the list of threads and to let us know the lies that we need to make sure voters know are lies. I thank you for your very helpful efforts, even though you intend the opposite.
     
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    ...call me a christofascist eventhough I've never posted anything here about religion or supporting any religious policies.
    You've very loudly declared your unwavering support for Trump. Trump plans to run this nation the way the Christofascists want him to run it. Instead of denouncing that Christofascism, you instead repeat the lies of how it doesn't exist and Trump is not their champion. So you have in fact supported the Christofascists and their religious policies, even though you have not and never will be honest and straight forward about that.

    Just like how it took you a few years of denying you were a Trump supporter, before you finally, and just recently, admitted you do support Trump. You didn't fool anyone then and you're not fooling anyone now.

    I hope you respond to this post and bump this thread back up to the top. You're helping our cause so much more than you will ever be able to realize. I'm very grateful for that.
     
    It's just funny to see how people like you live in such a bubble that you reflexively call me a christofascist eventhough I've never posted anything here about religion or supporting any religious policies.

    I see you are big on silly political labels. It's laughable that you constantly talk about one reason why you support Biden is to save democracy from Trump. 😆

    You act as if we haven't been through a Trump presidency. Democracy is still alive after that Trump presidency.



    When you’re a Democrat, “Democracy” means conspiring in a years-long coverup to hide the fact that your electoral candidate and sitting President is cognitively compromised and mentally unfit, rigging your own primary for one candidate by blocking alternatives, then disenfranchising your own party voters by organizing a coup to remove him once the coverup is exposed.

    When you’re a Democrat, “Democracy” means waging an unprecedented lawfare campaign against your political opponent, trying to imprison him, and jailing as many of his supporters and advisors as possible before an election.

    When you’re a Democrat, “Democracy” means attempting to remove your political opponent’s name from the ballot, opposing all election security measures, making it harder to prosecute voter fraud, and killing legislation that would strengthen laws against non-citizens voting in national elections.

    When you’re a Democrat, “Democracy” means censoring the internet, employing US intelligence agencies to outsource first-amendment violations to third party surrogates, and jailing citizens for memes.

    When you’re a Democrat, “Democracy” means that when your political opponent is being prosecuted, any criticisms of prosecutors, judges and courts is subverting the rule of law, but when you relentlessly attack Justices you don’t like in order to undermine the legitimacy of the nation’s highest court, that is upholding the rule of law.

    When you’re a Democrat, “Democracy” means recognizing that your policies are not popular, that a new electorate is required, and view the Americans that die as a result of the open border necessary to achieve that end as collateral damage in service to a greater good.

    When you’re a Democrat, “Democracy” really means “Democrat Power.”

    One of the traits of those who oppose or undermine democracy is refusing to accept the results of free and fair elections. Another is refusing to abide by the peaceful transfer of power. YOU support both of these because YOU support Trump and the Republican Party.
     

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