We Need to Talk About Trump's Project 2025 & Trump's Manifesto "Mandate for Leadership: The Conservative Promise" (2 Viewers)

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    I think Trump's Project 2025 needs it's own thread to make as many people as possible aware of it, how Trump and the people he's surrounded himself with are dead serious about making it happen, and how devastating it will be if we allow Trump to make it happen. These are the various pages on his website which should show Trump means business. Trump's not just wishing or theorizing, he's planning and implementing.

    Trump and his minion's home page (the bolding is their's, not mine):


    "It is not enough for conservatives to win elections. If we are going to rescue the country from the grip of the radical Left, we need both a governing agenda and the right people in place, ready to carry this agenda out on Day One of the next conservative Administration.​
    This is the goal of the 2025 Presidential Transition Project. The project will build on four pillars that will, collectively, pave the way for an effective conservative Administration."​


    Trump's policy agenda page:


    "This book is an invitation for you the reader—Mr. Smith, Mrs. Smith, and Ms. Smith—to come to Washington or support those who can. Our goal is to assemble an army of aligned, vetted, trained, and prepared conservatives to go to work on Day One to deconstruct the Administrative State.​
    ...​
    The next conservative President will enter office on January 20, 2025, with a simple choice: greatness or failure. It will be a daunting test, but no more so than every other generation of Americans has faced and passed. The Conservative Promise represents the best effort of the conservative movement in 2023—and the next conservative President’s last opportunity to save our republic."​



    Trump's personnel (recruitment/application) page, bolding is mine:


    "Please fill out the questionnaire below and upload your resume for inclusion in the Presidential Personnel Database if you would like to be considered for positions in a presidential Administration.​
    Project 2025 is the effort of a massive coalition of conservative organizations that have come together to ensure a successful Administration begins in January 2025. With the right conservative policy recommendations and properly vetted and trained personnel to implement them, we will take back our government. Project 2025 is being organized by The Heritage Foundation."​


    Trump's training page:


    "The Presidential Administration Academy is a one-of-a-kind educational and skill-building program designed to prepare and equip future political appointees now to be ready on Day One of the next conservative Administration. This academy provides aspiring appointees with the insight, background knowledge, and expertise in governance to immediately begin rolling back destructive policy and advancing conservative ideas in the federal government."​


    Trump's first 180 days playbook page:


    "The time is short, and conservatives need a plan. The project will create a playbook of actions to be taken in the first 180 days of the new Administration to bring quick relief to Americans suffering from the Left’s devastating policies."​


    Trump's playbook, bolding mine (I've downloaded the pdf of their playbook for when Trump eventually pulls it from his website once the backlash really kicks in):


    "This book is an invitation for you the reader—Mr. Smith, Mrs. Smith, and Ms. Smith—to come to Washington or support those who can. Our goal is to assemble an army of aligned, vetted, trained, and prepared conservatives to go to work on Day One to deconstruct the Administrative State.​
    ...​
    This is an agenda prepared by and for conservatives who will be ready on Day One of the next Administration to save our country. The Heritage Foundation is once again facilitating this work, but as our dozens of partners and hundreds of authors will attest, this book is the work of the entire conservative movement.​
    ...​
    The next conservative President will enter office on January 20, 2025 ... The Conservative Promise represents the best effort of the conservative movement in 2023—and the next conservative President’s last opportunity to save our republic."​

    The link to the 111 groups Trump and his minions have cobbled together in a coalition to help Trump achieve his agenda.


    Groups include:​
    • ALEC - the Koch brother's foundation that has written all of the state laws that undermine child labor protection, worker's rights, air and water pollution protections, voter's rights, government assistance programs from those that need the help, and tax codes that made sure the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes.
    • Moms For Liberty - the group leading the charge to ban any book that treats anyone, who is not white, heterosexual, cis and Christian, as being equal and deserving of acceptance, tolerance and respect.
    • National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation - which works for corporations to prevent and bust worker's unions to help corporations pay a non living wage to employees and force them to work under horrible conditions.
    • Tea Party Patriots - the group that is MAGA and has taken control of the Republican party and supports Trump's efforts to stage a coup on Jan 6th so that he could stay in power even though he lost the election.
    • Turning Point USA - run by Charlie Kirk who fully embraces Christian Nationalism and the reducing of women to just being homemakers dedicated only to serving their husbands and their family, in that order

    Here are some articles and videos that give an overview of what Trump's Project 2025 plans to do if Trump wins the presidency:







    The Heritage Foundation cooked up this plan during the Reagan administration, but Reagan didn't let the Heritage Foundation fully implement it. Trump has claimed it for himself and has made it his plan, because it plays into the ultimate power and control that Trump wants. See the videos below.









    No matter how annoying, frustrating, distasteful, or unappealing it may be, either Biden or Trump will be the next president. No one else has a chance at winning the election. If Biden wins, we have issues to solve, but we still have our democracy.

    If Trump wins, we lose our democracy and have to fight for our freedom, if we aren't white, Christian, cis, heterosexual men who believe in the divine right of white, Christian, cis, heterosexual men to sit in domination over all others.

    The bottom line is this, vote for Biden if you want to preserve our democracy, or don't vote for Biden if you want to chance Trump winning, which would bring an end to our democracy.

    That's the grounded-in-reality choice folks, like it or not. Please vote for Biden so that we all have the freedom to live our lives how we want, to argue with each other, and to protest without fear of being imprisoned or "falling" out of window to our death.

    This election is not a drill, it's the real deal.
     
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    Sorry, totally disagree that she is right to do this. What she is doing is absolving him of any responsibility for a policy paper that his people drew up and that his campaign staff have been promoting. It’s gaslighting. It’s completely inappropriate from a journalist to run cover for a candidate in that way.
    I don't think she's running cover. Haberman has been no Trump apologist. I think she is trying to be factual, and we simply don't know what Trump will do with regard to Project 2025. I think his history is that he will do whatever serves him and his family, irrespective of the law and the country. I think you could be right that his cabinet may implement it, and he'll go along, but that doesn't mean he supports it. Not supporting it is not the same as acquiescing to it, nor just not paying attention. I don't absolve him, but it is very possible that it happens because he doesn't pay attention, but he could actually push back on some of it. We just can't know about stuff that doesn't serve him.
     
    Haberman has been no Trump apologist.
    Okay, we cannot really effectively have a conversation on this. She has been in my eyes. A total apologist at times. That doesn’t mean she never criticizes him, but when push comes to shove she will advocate for treating him like he is normal instead of a malignant narcissistic sociopath. She’s dangerous.
     
    Okay, we cannot really effectively have a conversation on this. She has been in my eyes. A total apologist at times. That doesn’t mean she never criticizes him, but when push comes to shove she will advocate for treating him like he is normal instead of a malignant narcissistic sociopath. She’s dangerous.
    I think it is fair to expect Trump to implement Project 2025, because it is his people, but I don’t think a journalist should jump to that conclusion. That may be a reasonable opinion, but an opinion nonetheless.
     
    I think it is fair to expect Trump to implement Project 2025, because it is his people, but I don’t think a journalist should jump to that conclusion. That may be a reasonable opinion, but an opinion nonetheless.
    What she did was express an opinion. She said it wasn’t fair to assume that Trump would implement a policy that his people drew up and that names him hundreds of times. It’s horrible journalistic malpractice, IMO.

    Look, her mom worked for Trump personally according to what I have read, she has known him her entire life. She has normalized him consistently. She should never have been allowed to become the “Trump whisperer” by the NYT, she’s partial.
     
    What she did was express an opinion. She said it wasn’t fair to assume that Trump would implement a policy that his people drew up and that names him hundreds of times. It’s horrible journalistic malpractice, IMO.

    Look, her mom worked for Trump personally according to what I have read, she has known him her entire life. She has normalized him consistently. She should never have been allowed to become the “Trump whisperer” by the NYT, she’s partial.
    I see your point.
     
    Sorry, totally disagree that she is right to do this. What she is doing is absolving him of any responsibility for a policy paper that his people drew up and that his campaign staff have been promoting. It’s gaslighting. It’s completely inappropriate from a journalist to run cover for a candidate in that way.

    Yeah, she’s just not being honest.

     
    It would be good if you address substance.
    The substance is that I'm not surprised you've strained to find another way to be critical of Biden. The substance of the subtext is obviously that I think you're seeing a problem that doesn't actually exist.

    Nowhere does the website even hint at the idea they listed anything in terms of priority of importance, so your criticism of "...its priorities are wrong" is absurdly unfounded.

    Please quote from the Biden Harris tookit website where they said or implied they had done the list based on priority of importance.

    I think the promise to immediately round up over a million people is a bigger and more immediate, therefore more important, threat than rolling back regulations to decrease climate change. If you go read through the climate/weather thread you'll see that I'm very concerned about climate change, but the first call to action is to prevent the immediate round up of over a million people. Stopping that needs to be the first thing we focus on.
     
    I mostly agree.

    Trump is already starting to distance himself from Project 2025. He’s got to walk a fine line between alienating his fundie supporters and not chasing away too many others.

    I do think there are people out there who can get lulled into thinking it’s not a big deal or it will never happen here, and overlook it is as the issue of importance that it is.
    I don't doubt that some will be lulled into indifference, but I don't think it will be enough people to make a difference in the election outcome. I also count on Trump and the Republicans not being able to keep themselves from saying and doing things that keeps shocking people out of their complacency or naivety.
     
    I saw discussion on social media earlier that the Trump campaign says they are expanding Medicare and Social Security. Misleading because that will be through privatization but it frames the plan differently.
    The only thing I have seen released is the ALL CAPS list of talking points. It actually says ‘no cuts to Social Security and Medicare and no changing of the retirement age’. This contradicts Project 2025 and Trump’s own words as well as his party in the past.

    The talking points also have zero mention of abortion at all. Which is what had upset the lady who came out of the meeting process to adapt the platform and said they were given no way to amend and no way to comment.
     
    The only thing I have seen released is the ALL CAPS list of talking points. It actually says ‘no cuts to Social Security and Medicare and no changing of the retirement age’. This contradicts Project 2025 and Trump’s own words as well as his party in the past.

    The talking points also have zero mention of abortion at all. Which is what had upset the lady who came out of the meeting process to adapt the platform and said they were given no way to amend and no way to comment.
    What a poetic twist. The people that have screamed false claims about Democrats shoving things down their throats are now truly having their party platform shoved down their throats by their very own Republican party.
     
    What a poetic twist. The people that have screamed false claims about Democrats shoving things down their throats are now truly having their party platform shoved down their throats by their very own Republican party.
    They are backing an authoritarian, I mean, do they really think he gives a crap what they want?
     
    The only thing I have seen released is the ALL CAPS list of talking points. It actually says ‘no cuts to Social Security and Medicare and no changing of the retirement age’. This contradicts Project 2025 and Trump’s own words as well as his party in the past.

    Yeah, this sounds like what I saw. Was that posted here?
     
    Yeah, this sounds like what I saw. Was that posted here?
    Yes, SFL posted it. I don’t remember which thread but I searched my posts because I responded to it. I didn’t search for his posts because he didn’t comment as I recall.
     

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