We Need to Talk About Trump's Project 2025 & Trump's Manifesto "Mandate for Leadership: The Conservative Promise" (2 Viewers)

Users who are viewing this thread

    LA - L.A.

    Well-known member
    Joined
    Sep 28, 2019
    Messages
    3,658
    Reaction score
    4,154
    Location
    Studio City, CA
    Offline
    I think Trump's Project 2025 needs it's own thread to make as many people as possible aware of it, how Trump and the people he's surrounded himself with are dead serious about making it happen, and how devastating it will be if we allow Trump to make it happen. These are the various pages on his website which should show Trump means business. Trump's not just wishing or theorizing, he's planning and implementing.

    Trump and his minion's home page (the bolding is their's, not mine):


    "It is not enough for conservatives to win elections. If we are going to rescue the country from the grip of the radical Left, we need both a governing agenda and the right people in place, ready to carry this agenda out on Day One of the next conservative Administration.​
    This is the goal of the 2025 Presidential Transition Project. The project will build on four pillars that will, collectively, pave the way for an effective conservative Administration."​


    Trump's policy agenda page:


    "This book is an invitation for you the reader—Mr. Smith, Mrs. Smith, and Ms. Smith—to come to Washington or support those who can. Our goal is to assemble an army of aligned, vetted, trained, and prepared conservatives to go to work on Day One to deconstruct the Administrative State.​
    ...​
    The next conservative President will enter office on January 20, 2025, with a simple choice: greatness or failure. It will be a daunting test, but no more so than every other generation of Americans has faced and passed. The Conservative Promise represents the best effort of the conservative movement in 2023—and the next conservative President’s last opportunity to save our republic."​



    Trump's personnel (recruitment/application) page, bolding is mine:


    "Please fill out the questionnaire below and upload your resume for inclusion in the Presidential Personnel Database if you would like to be considered for positions in a presidential Administration.​
    Project 2025 is the effort of a massive coalition of conservative organizations that have come together to ensure a successful Administration begins in January 2025. With the right conservative policy recommendations and properly vetted and trained personnel to implement them, we will take back our government. Project 2025 is being organized by The Heritage Foundation."​


    Trump's training page:


    "The Presidential Administration Academy is a one-of-a-kind educational and skill-building program designed to prepare and equip future political appointees now to be ready on Day One of the next conservative Administration. This academy provides aspiring appointees with the insight, background knowledge, and expertise in governance to immediately begin rolling back destructive policy and advancing conservative ideas in the federal government."​


    Trump's first 180 days playbook page:


    "The time is short, and conservatives need a plan. The project will create a playbook of actions to be taken in the first 180 days of the new Administration to bring quick relief to Americans suffering from the Left’s devastating policies."​


    Trump's playbook, bolding mine (I've downloaded the pdf of their playbook for when Trump eventually pulls it from his website once the backlash really kicks in):


    "This book is an invitation for you the reader—Mr. Smith, Mrs. Smith, and Ms. Smith—to come to Washington or support those who can. Our goal is to assemble an army of aligned, vetted, trained, and prepared conservatives to go to work on Day One to deconstruct the Administrative State.​
    ...​
    This is an agenda prepared by and for conservatives who will be ready on Day One of the next Administration to save our country. The Heritage Foundation is once again facilitating this work, but as our dozens of partners and hundreds of authors will attest, this book is the work of the entire conservative movement.​
    ...​
    The next conservative President will enter office on January 20, 2025 ... The Conservative Promise represents the best effort of the conservative movement in 2023—and the next conservative President’s last opportunity to save our republic."​

    The link to the 111 groups Trump and his minions have cobbled together in a coalition to help Trump achieve his agenda.


    Groups include:​
    • ALEC - the Koch brother's foundation that has written all of the state laws that undermine child labor protection, worker's rights, air and water pollution protections, voter's rights, government assistance programs from those that need the help, and tax codes that made sure the wealthy pay their fair share of taxes.
    • Moms For Liberty - the group leading the charge to ban any book that treats anyone, who is not white, heterosexual, cis and Christian, as being equal and deserving of acceptance, tolerance and respect.
    • National Right to Work Legal Defense Foundation - which works for corporations to prevent and bust worker's unions to help corporations pay a non living wage to employees and force them to work under horrible conditions.
    • Tea Party Patriots - the group that is MAGA and has taken control of the Republican party and supports Trump's efforts to stage a coup on Jan 6th so that he could stay in power even though he lost the election.
    • Turning Point USA - run by Charlie Kirk who fully embraces Christian Nationalism and the reducing of women to just being homemakers dedicated only to serving their husbands and their family, in that order

    Here are some articles and videos that give an overview of what Trump's Project 2025 plans to do if Trump wins the presidency:







    The Heritage Foundation cooked up this plan during the Reagan administration, but Reagan didn't let the Heritage Foundation fully implement it. Trump has claimed it for himself and has made it his plan, because it plays into the ultimate power and control that Trump wants. See the videos below.









    No matter how annoying, frustrating, distasteful, or unappealing it may be, either Biden or Trump will be the next president. No one else has a chance at winning the election. If Biden wins, we have issues to solve, but we still have our democracy.

    If Trump wins, we lose our democracy and have to fight for our freedom, if we aren't white, Christian, cis, heterosexual men who believe in the divine right of white, Christian, cis, heterosexual men to sit in domination over all others.

    The bottom line is this, vote for Biden if you want to preserve our democracy, or don't vote for Biden if you want to chance Trump winning, which would bring an end to our democracy.

    That's the grounded-in-reality choice folks, like it or not. Please vote for Biden so that we all have the freedom to live our lives how we want, to argue with each other, and to protest without fear of being imprisoned or "falling" out of window to our death.

    This election is not a drill, it's the real deal.
     
    Last edited:
    Yes, SFL posted it. I don’t remember which thread but I searched my posts because I responded to it. I didn’t search for his posts because he didn’t comment as I recall.

    I’m about half certain I saw the infographic on Threads or Reddit.
     
    Here it is, I searched again. Notice the grade school level of writing and the complete lack of any method of implementation.

     
    The substance is that I'm not surprised you've strained to find another way to be critical of Biden. The substance of the subtext is obviously that I think you're seeing a problem that doesn't actually exist.

    Nowhere does the website even hint at the idea they listed anything in terms of priority of importance, so your criticism of "...its priorities are wrong" is absurdly unfounded.

    Please quote from the Biden Harris tookit website where they said or implied they had done the list based on priority of importance.

    I think the promise to immediately round up over a million people is a bigger and more immediate, therefore more important, threat than rolling back regulations to decrease climate change. If you go read through the climate/weather thread you'll see that I'm very concerned about climate change, but the first call to action is to prevent the immediate round up of over a million people. Stopping that needs to be the first thing we focus on.
    Climate is listed as the last item under other priorities. That is horrible. That clearly is indicative that it is an afterthought. I criticize where warranted, and that was poor prioritization when one of the most important issues of our time is buried. It makes me uneasy that it won’t be a priority.

    Rounding up and deporting all illegal immigrants would be atrocious, but far less important than leading the world in climate changes. The collapse of democracy is less important. Firing civil servants would be less. All are horrible, but the only thing more important is controlling nuclear proliferation. Preventing rolling back initiatives that reduce impact on climate change is the most important issue to me, because it will be increasingly hard to live on this planet and the crisis it will create. It should not be listed last, because that sends the wrong message.
     
    Last edited:
    Climate is listed as the last item under other priorities.
    I've checked that website four times and can't find any variation of the word priority on it.

    Please quote or screen capture where you are reading the words "other priorities."

    There's nothing more to discuss if you don't do that, because it means the website does not say what you claim it says.

    Rounding up and deporting all illegal immigrants would be atrocious, but far less important than leading the world in climate changes.
    That's one of the most depraved things I've heard.

    The collapse of democracy is less important.
    How you gonna lead on climate change with no democracy? Stop and think.

    Firing civil servants would be less.
    How you gonna lead on climate change without civil servants working for regulatory agencies? Stop and think.

    ...but the only thing more important is controlling nuclear proliferation.
    How you gonna do that without democracy and civil servants? Stop and think.

    Preventing rolling back initiatives that reduce impact on climate change is the most important issue to me...
    How you gonna do that without democracy and civil servants? Stop and think.

    It should not be listed last, because that sends the wrong message.
    Only to you, so far, and that's because you're reading things into it that aren't actually there. Slow down and read more carefully.
     

    Glad to see this from CNN.

    Glad to see CNN is letting Abby Phillip be true to herself, instead of putting her in the position she's been in for the past two weeks that was obviously uncomfortable for her.

    Hopefully, Trump's actions with Epstein are in the production pipeline.
     
    Last edited:
    I can't stand Shapiro...
    Thank you to you and Shapiro for confirming that Trump and his minions desperately want to bury the Project 2025 story, because they know it will hurt Trump.

    Thank you both for confirming that Project 2025 is a deadly serious and real thing that Trump will do if he wins.

    Thank you both for confirming that we need to spread the word on Project 2025 as far and as wide as we can.

    Thank you both for giving us the advanced cheat sheet on the false propaganda we will need to debunk.

    Thank you both for your help on defeating Trump and Project 2025, even though it's the opposite of what you both intended.

    Thank you both for both being so very bad at what you try to do.
     
    Wasn't sure what thread to put this in
    =======================

    There was a period of about nine months in 2016 when the Republican Party sloughed off its traditional, Grand Old Party skin and became the party of Donald Trump and his “Make America Great Again” movement.

    There was no immediate, sharp break but, instead, a rapid evolution. Trump had led in Republican presidential primary polls but the party — meaning the party’s traditional, establishment leaders — figured that he’d flame out as other populist Republican candidates had done over the previous six years. But he didn’t. So the establishment waited for him to instead lose that November, allowing them to return to business as usual. But he didn’t.

    Trump went to the White House in January 2017 and brought with him elements of that traditional establishment. By the time he was running for reelection in 2020, though, those people were gone, supplanted within his administration as surely as they’d been supplanted within the party. The GOP was now just MAGA.

    One place that shift is reflected most clearly is in the quadrennial document outlining the party’s formal platform.

    In 2012, that document reflected the party that nominated Mitt Romney, leading with a dedication solemnly but pointedly honoring the “wisdom of the Framers of the United States Constitution, who gave us a Republic, as Benjamin Franklin cautioned, if we can keep it.” This was a jab at the incumbent Democrat, Barack Obama, whom the party and its media organs had often presented as a dangerous threat to democracy.

    This week, the party approved its 2024 platform. This year, the document is dedicated to “the Forgotten Men and Women of America.”

    The 2016 platform, dropping into that liminal space between the GOP and MAGA eras, looked much more like the 2012 document than the 2024 one. It was dedicated to “all who stand strong in the face of danger o that the American people may be protected against it”: the military and first responders. It, like the 2012 document, detailed the party officials who’d steered its development and included an introduction of high-minded language about the role of the platform and the party in American politics.

    By 2020, the shift to Trump was immediately obvious from the party platform. It wasn’t a platform, really; it was just a resolution pointing those interested back to the 2016 platform. The platform, in essence, was that “the Republican Party has and will continue to enthusiastically support the President’s America-first agenda,” whatever that happened to be.

    This year, the platform has a bit more flesh, but not much. It is also, very obviously, a product not of the party but of Trump himself. Quite literally, given that reporting suggests he guided its components and wording.

    The result is a longer document than the one presented in 2020 — but a far shorter one than those in 2012 or 2016. The platform of the Republican Party that first nominated Trump in 2016 was more than six times the length of the platform Trump drafted for this year.

    That’s also true of other traditional Republican issues like “entitlement” — as in, cutting spending on Social Security and Medicare — and the federal debt or deficit. Instead, the 2024 document spends far more time discussing immigration (and immigrants) and far, far more time talking about the U.S.-Mexico border.

    There’s another obvious difference: The new platform mentions the candidate himself nearly 20 times. The 2012 platform mentioned Romney once.

    Another giveaway that the 2024 platform document was created by and for Donald Trump: the idiosyncratic deployment of uppercase letters. Trump’s random capitalization has long been a mark of his writing, from “American People” to “Deep State” to “Nation.” Generally, about 2 percent of letters in a written document are capitalized — that was the percentage of capitalized characters in the 2012 and 2016 platforms.

    In the 2024 platform document, about 12 percent of characters are capitalized.................



     
    Make sure the people you know don’t fall for Trump’s lies that he doesn’t know about Project 2025. Here he is slurring his way through praising the Heritage Foundation and acknowledging that they are laying the “groundwork and detailed plans for exactly what our movement will do.”

    His comments start around the 1:30 mark.

     
    Eric Swallwell just tweeted that messaging is important. Call it Trump’s Project 2025.
     
    Make sure the people you know don’t fall for Trump’s lies that he doesn’t know about Project 2025. Here he is slurring his way through praising the Heritage Foundation and acknowledging that they are laying the “groundwork and detailed plans for exactly what our movement will do.”

    His comments start around the 1:30 mark.


    CNN's Abby Phillip ran a similar story. A slow build up to a crescendo in October on this would be ideal, especially with some surprising and damning new revelations.
     
    Trump’s Project 2025: he wanted to do it last time, but couldn’t. The Heritage Foundation is there to make sure he gets it done if he gets another chance.

     
    Trump’s Project 2025: he wanted to do it last time, but couldn’t. The Heritage Foundation is there to make sure he gets it done if he gets another chance.


    It's very encouraging that CNN is letting the public know that Trump's Project 2025 is most definitely Trump's Project 2025. Yesterday, Abby Phillip also had compelling segment on it.

    Cynically, I think the main reason CNN is covering this is because they also saw the same thing you posted about, Trump's Project 2025 is the most searched term on the internet right now. I think they're mostly running this story to chase viewership. A few days ago they let Maggie Haberman say it wasn't fair to say Trump's Project 2025.

    Seems even CNN realizes that the American public ain't going to buy that Trump's Project 2025 is not Trump's Project 2025. That's very encouraging to me.
     

    Create an account or login to comment

    You must be a member in order to leave a comment

    Create account

    Create an account on our community. It's easy!

    Log in

    Already have an account? Log in here.

    Advertisement

    General News Feed

    Fact Checkers News Feed

    Sponsored

    Back
    Top Bottom