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    THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY is quietly broadening its efforts to curb speech it considers dangerous, an investigation by The Intercept has found. Years of internal DHS memos, emails, and documents — obtained via leaks and an ongoing lawsuit, as well as public documents — illustrate an expansive effort by the agency to influence tech platforms.

    The work, much of which remains unknown to the American public, came into clearer view earlier this year when DHS announced a new “Disinformation Governance Board”: a panel designed to police misinformation (false information spread unintentionally), disinformation (false information spread intentionally), and malinformation (factual information shared, typically out of context, with harmful intent) that allegedly threatens U.S. interests. While the board was widely ridiculed, immediately scaled back, and then shut down within a few months, other initiatives are underway as DHS pivots to monitoring social media now that its original mandate — the war on terror — has been wound down.

    Behind closed doors, and through pressure on private platforms, the U.S. government has used its power to try to shape online discourse. According to meeting minutes and other records appended to a lawsuit filed by Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt, a Republican who is also running for Senate, discussions have ranged from the scale and scope of government intervention in online discourse to the mechanics of streamlining takedown requests for false or intentionally misleading information.

    “Platforms have got to get comfortable with gov’t. It’s really interesting how hesitant they remain,” Microsoft executive Matt Masterson, a former DHS official, texted Jen Easterly, a DHS director, in February.

    In a March meeting, Laura Dehmlow, an FBI official, warned that the threat of subversive information on social media could undermine support for the U.S. government. Dehmlow, according to notes of the discussion attended by senior executives from Twitter and JPMorgan Chase, stressed that “we need a media infrastructure that is held accountable.”

    Key Takeaways
    • Though DHS shuttered its controversial Disinformation Governance Board, a strategic document reveals the underlying work is ongoing.
    • DHS plans to target inaccurate information on “the origins of the COVID-19 pandemic and the efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines, racial justice, U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan, and the nature of U.S. support to Ukraine.”
    • Facebook created a special portal for DHS and government partners to report disinformation directly.


    -The work is primarily done by CISA, a DHS sub-agency tasked with protecting critical national infrastructure.

    -DHS, the FBI, and several media entities are having biweekly meetings as recently as August.
    DHS considered countering disinformation relating to content that undermines trust in financial systems and courts.

    -The FBI agent who primed social media platforms to take down the Hunter Biden laptop story continued to have a role in DHS policy discussions.

    ...In retrospect, the New York Post reporting on the contents of Hunter Biden’s laptop ahead of the 2020 election provides an elucidating case study of how this works in an increasingly partisan environment.

    Much of the public ignored the reporting or assumed it was false, as over 50 former intelligence officials charged that the laptop story was a creation of a “Russian disinformation” campaign. The mainstream media was primed by allegations of election interference in 2016 — and, to be sure, Trump did attempt to use the laptop to disrupt the Biden campaign. Twitter ended up banning links to the New York Post’s report on the contents of the laptop during the crucial weeks leading up to the election. Facebook also throttled users’ ability to view the story.

    In recent months, a clearer picture of the government’s influence has emerged.

    In an appearance on Joe Rogan’s podcast in August, Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg revealed that Facebook had limited sharing of the New York Post’s reporting after a conversation with the FBI. “The background here is that the FBI came to us — some folks on our team — and was like, ‘Hey, just so you know, you should be on high alert that there was a lot of Russian propaganda in the 2016 election,’” Zuckerberg told Rogan. The FBI told them, Zuckerberg said, that “‘We have it on notice that basically there’s about to be some kind of dump.’” When the Post’s story came out in October 2020, Facebook thought it “fit that pattern” the FBI had told them to look out for.

    Zuckerberg said he regretted the decision, as did Jack Dorsey, the CEO of Twitter at the time. Despite claims that the laptop’s contents were forged, the Washington Post confirmed that at least some of the emails on the laptop were authentic. The New York Times authenticated emails from the laptop — many of which were cited in the original New York Post reporting from October 2020 — that prosecutors have examined as part of the Justice Department’s probe into whether the president’s son violated the law on a range of issues, including money laundering, tax-related offenses, and foreign lobbying registration.

    Documents filed in federal court as part of a lawsuit by the attorneys general of Missouri and Louisiana add a layer of new detail to Zuckerberg’s anecdote, revealing that officials leading the push to expand the government’s reach into disinformation also played a quiet role in shaping the decisions of social media giants around the New York Post story.

     
    "Misinformation" like Hunter Biden's laptop?
    Yes.

    There is no way to verify what came from his laptop and what didn't. So yes, the government was right to warn about potential misinformation related to "hunter's laptop"

    I was able to see all of Hunter's nudes, so it's not like the info was suppressed.

    I still don't think there was ever actually a "laptop" belonging to Hunter. That story was made up. His cloud was hacked.
     
    Yes.

    There is no way to verify what came from his laptop and what didn't.
    Sure there is. The government has had Hunter's laptop for years. Forensic experts can tell if someone put something on it after it was dropped off at the repair shop, or if someone got into his cloud, somehow.

    As of now, there is zero reason to believe that's what happened other than not wanting Hunter Biden to look bad. Sorry to say that ship has sailed.
    So yes, the government was right to warn about potential misinformation related to "hunter's laptop"

    I was able to see all of Hunter's nudes, so it's not like the info was suppressed.
    You saw them because someone went around the FBI, not because the FBI has been forthcoming. I take it those nudes were also somehow faked?
    I still don't think there was ever actually a "laptop" belonging to Hunter. That story was made up. His cloud was hacked.
    I hope the Kool-Aid was at least your favorite flavor.

    What is your evidence that his cloud was hacked? Other than wishful thinking, there is none.

    How can we ever know the truth, if we just assume any story that we don't like is "made up?"
     
    Sure there is. The government has had Hunter's laptop for years. Forensic experts can tell if someone put something on it after it was dropped off at the repair shop, or if someone got into his cloud, somehow.

    I hope the Kool-Aid was at least your favorite flavor.

    What is your evidence that his cloud was hacked? Other than wishful thinking, there is none.

    How can we ever know the truth, if we just assume any story that we don't like is "made up?"

    No one has had Hunter's laptop. lol. You believe the story about the blind computer shop owner?

    Why didn't the Trump administration turn it over? They supposedly got it while he was still president.

    Russian hackers gave Rudy the info, and they had to launder it some how, because not even the most right wing media was going to publish info that was provided by Russian hackers.
     
    That's not new information.

    It's pretty funny that you believe the story about the blind computer shop owner.

    I'm not saying that no laptop ever existed. Rudy had to launder that information somehow. It was not Hunter's laptop, it just had info on it that was hacked from his cloud.
    I know it is not new information. The FBI has had Hunter Biden's laptop for years. There is no evidence that anyone put any fake information on it. You have a link to that CT?
     
    I know it is not new information. The FBI has had Hunter Biden's laptop for years. There is no evidence that anyone put any fake information on it. You have a link to that CT?

    I'm sorry you fell for the blind computer shop story.
     
    You are the one calling it the quiet part.

    I don't think it should be quiet at all. The government should be responsible for policing misinformation. it should be a basic function of the government.

    I can't tell you that my tonic will cure all of your diseases and sell you a glass of water. The government should stop me from doing that.

    We aren't talking about censoring unpopular opinions.
    Are you familiar with the 1st ammendment?
     
    Like this "misinformation"?


    Do you think the government was deleting tweets or threatening to punish twitter for not deleting tweets that it asked to be deleted?

    Do you think you have a right to free tweet?
     
    No one has had Hunter's laptop. lol. You believe the story about the blind computer shop owner?

    Why didn't the Trump administration turn it over? They supposedly got it while he was still president.

    Russian hackers gave Rudy the info, and they had to launder it some how, because not even the most right wing media was going to publish info that was provided by Russian hackers.
    The files from Hunter's laptop has been begrudgingly confirmed by multiple news organizations.
     
    @GGreenwald: "This is demented. I cannot believe that any person thinks this way let alone a member of Congress, and yet this has become the ethos of the Democratic party:


    That the union of state and corporate power, which is the classic definition of fascism... to censor the internet is something to celebrate and venerate.


    And that the US security state is largely benign and benevolent... that they cannot only be trusted with the power to censor but they should be trusted with that power
     
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    @GGreenwald: "This is demented. I cannot believe that any person thinks this way let alone a member of Congress, and yet this has become the ethos of the Democratic party:


    That the union of state and corporate power, which is the classic definition of fascism... to censor the internet is something to celebrate and venerate.


    And that the US security state is largely benign and benevolent... that they cannot only be trusted with the power to censor but they should be trusted with that power


    it's not censorship.

    AND

    I wouldn't care if it was.
     

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