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    Yes, it is called amendments. The constitution is considered a living document where amendments can be made as the world evolves. Otherwise slavery would still be a thing.
    The ammendments are additions to the constitution. They haven't been working on the constitution since 1788.
     
    The ammendments are additions to the constitution. They haven't been working on the constitution since 1788.
    Amendments are also CHANGES to the Constitution.

    The point being, they started writing the Constitution over 200 years ago, and during the last two centuries, it has been modified, added to, and changed. You seem to grasp that concept.

    Why is it so hard to grasp the concept that someone could start writing a document in the 1970's, and still be working on it by adding to it, modifying it, and changing it?
     


    Could Trump admit he made a mistake and dump Vance or is he ride or die?

    The establishment Republicans who hate Trump are the ones who don't like Vance.

    But it's funny that you think the one supposed conservative on The View is somehow indicative of the majority of Trump voters. 😆
     
    Yes, it is called amendments. The constitution is considered a living document where amendments can be made as the world evolves. Otherwise slavery would still be a thing.
    Also, non property owners wouldn't be allowed to vote and women wouldn't be allowed to vote or own property.
     
    No, he doesn’t. His book kicked them including his mother to the curb. He started some sort of charity/organization to help with the opioid crisis and when it closed there was nothing to show for it. He trumpeted doing something for the people of East Palestine in conjunction with Fetterman and that disappeared as well.

    He was, is and always will be a hack. Heck, his lord and master, Peter Thiel, wants nothing to do with Trump.
    Not only that, when he ran for Senate he lost his home county where he grew up by around 9 points. The people who knew him best didn’t want him.
     
    Of course they will, but my point is Trump isn't replacing Vance and any suggestions that he will are just partisan games from Democrats.
    We will see shortly. If Trump wants to replace him it will happen in the next week. After that the Ohio ballots are set.
     
    Vance, the gift to Democrats that keeps on giving. He is a neophyte to politics and it shows with gaffe after gaffe.

     
    I’ll admit this doesn’t seem to be a bad response to this firestorm

    It won’t stop it and shouldn’t but definitely one of the better Trump responses

    It’ll be interesting to see if his “in many cases, a lot better than a person that's in a family situation” gets any pushback from his base/media who’s been spending the past week doubling down on Vance’s comments
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    July 29 (Reuters) - Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump on Monday backed his running mate, Senator JD Vance, over past comments about "childless cat ladies" that have gone viral and become a political headache for their White House campaign.

    Vance's 2021 comments criticizing Vice President Kamala Harris and other Democrats as "a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives" resurfaced after Trump selected the Ohio senator as his running mate earlier this month.

    The comments prompted a backlash and warnings from some political strategists that they could cost the Trump campaign valuable votes in a close election that could be decided in a handful of states by a few thousand voters. Harris is the likely Democratic Party presidential nominee for the Nov. 5 election following President Joe Biden's decision to quit the race.

    Trump said in an interview on Fox News he did not place a higher value on people with families.

    "You know, you don't meet the right person, or you don't meet any person. But you're just as good, in many cases, a lot better than a person that's in a family situation," Trump said.

    Harris has two stepchildren with her husband, lawyer Doug Emhoff. Emhoff's ex-wife has called such attacks "baseless" and described Harris as a "loving, nurturing, fiercely protective" co-parent.

    Trump said Vance, who had a tough upbringing in Ohio and was largely raised by his grandmother, was simply trying to show how much he values family life.

    "He grew up in a very interesting family situation, and he feels family is good. And I don't think there's anything wrong in saying that," Trump said.…..

     
    I’ll admit this doesn’t seem to be a bad response to this firestorm

    It won’t stop it and shouldn’t but definitely one of the better Trump responses

    It’ll be interesting to see if his “in many cases, a lot better than a person that's in a family situation” gets any pushback from his base/media who’s been spending the past week doubling down on Vance’s comments
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    July 29 (Reuters) - Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump on Monday backed his running mate, Senator JD Vance, over past comments about "childless cat ladies" that have gone viral and become a political headache for their White House campaign.

    Vance's 2021 comments criticizing Vice President Kamala Harris and other Democrats as "a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives" resurfaced after Trump selected the Ohio senator as his running mate earlier this month.

    The comments prompted a backlash and warnings from some political strategists that they could cost the Trump campaign valuable votes in a close election that could be decided in a handful of states by a few thousand voters. Harris is the likely Democratic Party presidential nominee for the Nov. 5 election following President Joe Biden's decision to quit the race.

    Trump said in an interview on Fox News he did not place a higher value on people with families.

    "You know, you don't meet the right person, or you don't meet any person. But you're just as good, in many cases, a lot better than a person that's in a family situation," Trump said.

    Harris has two stepchildren with her husband, lawyer Doug Emhoff. Emhoff's ex-wife has called such attacks "baseless" and described Harris as a "loving, nurturing, fiercely protective" co-parent.

    Trump said Vance, who had a tough upbringing in Ohio and was largely raised by his grandmother, was simply trying to show how much he values family life.

    "He grew up in a very interesting family situation, and he feels family is good. And I don't think there's anything wrong in saying that," Trump said.…..

    This article excerpt takes Trump’s word salad and makes it seem more coherent than it actually was, if I am remembering the video of the interview correctly. It’s what journalists have done to help Trump for years and years.
     
    Somehow gets worse for Vance
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    Republican vice presidential nominee Sen. JD Vance has a history of making disparaging remarks toward people without children, a CNN KFile review of his comments shows, including fundraising off his now-infamous “childless cat lady” remarks in a series of emails that called Democratic leaders “childless sociopaths” who “don’t have a direct stake in this country.”

    In November 2020, Vance said on a conservative podcast that childless Americans, especially those in the country’s “leadership class,” were “more sociopathic” than those with children and made the country “less mentally stable.” Vance added that the “most deranged” and “most psychotic” commentators on Twitter – now known as X - were typically childless.

    In August 2021, one month after launching his candidacy for the Senate, Vance’s campaign sent fundraising emails referring to the “radical childless leaders in this country” following his appearance on “Tucker Carlson Tonight” where he made comments deriding “childless cat ladies” and leaders running the country. The comments sparked a widespread backlash against Vance when they resurfaced on social media following his nomination to the Republican presidential ticket.

    Vance later tried to clean up his comments on Megyn Kelly’s podcast last week. “Obviously, it was a sarcastic comment. I’ve got nothing against cats,” said Vance, adding that his remarks were not about criticizing people without children, but rather focused on policy and claimed the Democratic Party has become “anti-family” and “anti-child.”

    A CNN KFile analysis found several examples over the course of a few years of Vance saying similarly disparaging things when talking about people without children — usually while targeting Democratic officials.

    “There are just these basic cadences of life that I think are really powerful and really valuable when you have kids in your life,” Vance said in November 2020 on a conservative podcast. “And the fact that so many people, especially in America’s leadership class, just don’t have that in their lives.”

    “You know, I worry that it makes people more sociopathic and ultimately our whole country a little bit less, less mentally stable,” he said. “And of course, you talk about going on Twitter – final point I’ll make is you go on Twitter and almost always the people who are most deranged and most psychotic are people who don’t have kids at home.”

    In September 2021, Vance tweeted that “cat ladies…must be stopped” in response to a report that a higher percentage of Americans fear having children because of climate change. In another tweet a month later, Vance wrote, “Our country’s low birth rates have made many elites sociopaths.”

    In a statement to CNN, Vance spokesperson Taylor Van Kirk said, “As [Senator Vance] has clearly stated, he was talking about politicians on the left who support policies that are explicitly anti-child and anti-family. The media can obsess over it all they want, but he’s not going to back down when it comes to advocating for policies that protect parental rights and encourage people to have more kids.”

    Broader pattern​

    The multiple examples of similar remarks demonstrate that Vance’s “childless cat ladies” comment to Carlson was part of a broader pattern of him pressing the culture war by, in part, singling out Democratic leaders for not having children.


    Vance would later fundraise off those 2021 remarks in a series of emails obtained by CNN from a commentator who posted them on social media at the time.

    “Did you see me on FOX Primetime recently? I needed to speak DIRECTLY to patriots like you about the serious issue of radical childless leaders in this country,” reads one Vance fundraising email from August 2021. “We can’t have people who don’t have a direct stake in this country making our most important decisions.

    “We’ve allowed ourselves to be dominated by childless sociopaths - they’re invested in NOTHING because they’re not invested in this country’s children. Fighting back won’t be easy - our childless opponents have a lot of free time. That’s why I need YOU to stand with me.”................

     
    Somehow gets worse for Vance
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    Republican vice presidential nominee Sen. JD Vance has a history of making disparaging remarks toward people without children, a CNN KFile review of his comments shows, including fundraising off his now-infamous “childless cat lady” remarks in a series of emails that called Democratic leaders “childless sociopaths” who “don’t have a direct stake in this country.”
    well, we see how he acts so a case can be made Kids are bad for your mental health.
     
    Not only that, when he ran for Senate he lost his home county where he grew up by around 9 points. The people who knew him best didn’t want him.
    Vance grew up in Butler County not Hamilton county. Huge difference between the two.
     
    Vance grew up in Butler County not Hamilton county. Huge difference between the two.
    I was speaking of Butler County. If the information I read is correct he lost the district that includes Butler County by nearly 9 points. It was posted by the guy who won that House District.
     
    He got 62% of the Butler county vote. 42% of Hamilton county. Physically adjacent counties with damn little in common. Although he now has a lovely home in Hamilton county.
     
    He got 62% of the Butler county vote. 42% of Hamilton county. Physically adjacent counties with damn little in common. Although he now has a lovely home in Hamilton county.
    The congressional district that includes Butler County was what he was referring to, not the county. He was the one who won that district, so I would imagine he remembers the votes for it.
     

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