Trump to sign executive order "maybe getting rid of FEMA" (2 Viewers)

[superchuck500]

Most disasters in this country are at least 90% funded by the federal government - mostly through FEMA.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

I don’t believe I suggested withholding resources. It’s a question of how those resources are deployed and who is in charge.

Wait a sec. Is your suggestion that state and local officials manage the disaster recovery efforts while FEMA provides resources to those officials?

 

[Saint Jack]

probably not. Still be 75% red and blame Soro, Clinton, and Biden.

Looking at past election results, Katrina is really the turning point.
The state even went to JFK.
If NOLA can ever regain its population, it might go back to being a swing state.

I still stand by my point that Louisiana isn’t as blood red as Mississippi, Arkansas, or Alabama because of New Orleans.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Looking at past election results, Katrina is really the turning point.
The state even went to JFK.
If NOLA can ever regain its population, it might go back to being a swing state.

I still stand by my point that Louisiana isn’t as blood red as Mississippi, Arkansas, or Alabama because of New Orleans.

John Bel Edwards won as a "centrist" Democrat but in reality, he was more like a Reagan-era Republican. You couldn't tell that to anyone outside of Orleans parish though, to them he was Mitch Landrieu.

 

[TampaJoe]

Wait a sec. Is your suggestion that state and local officials manage the disaster recovery efforts while FEMA provides resources to those officials?

I am saying that adding an additional layer of bureaucracy and complexity tends to slow things down. I would put the responsibility on the state to plan and execute disaster recovery with support and funding where needed from the Federal Government.

 

[efil4]

I am saying that adding an additional layer of bureaucracy and complexity tends to slow things down. I would put the responsibility on the state to plan and execute disaster recovery with support and funding where needed from the Federal Government.

That layer protects the affected from bad actors looking to spihon millions when the ability to oversee is so complex.

Hence FEMA. Is it perfect? No. But if it weren't for FEMA, Mexico Beach wouldn't have received over $87 million in aid. And it seems you have a problem with that process and the Federal Agency that provides that very assistance.

The logic doesn't compute.

Because what you are saying is Feds should still give money, just with less oversight. Yeah, that always works out for the little guy.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

I am saying that adding an additional layer of bureaucracy and complexity tends to slow things down. I would put the responsibility on the state to plan and execute disaster recovery with support and funding where needed from the Federal Government.

Then you will be thrilled to know that what you described is pretty much how the system currently works. Congratulations, you support FEMA!

 

[bird]

Looking at past election results, Katrina is really the turning point.
The state even went to JFK.
If NOLA can ever regain its population, it might go back to being a swing state.

I still stand by my point that Louisiana isn’t as blood red as Mississippi, Arkansas, or Alabama because of New Orleans.

NOLA may be the biggest population center but like Ohio that doesn’t matter if there are enough fools spread out in suburbs and rural areas. Cleveland, Columbus and Cinci typically are reliable areas of Democratic voters. That doesn’t matter as there are enough gullible voters outside of the cities. I live in one of those areas, Portage County, which is blood red. They voted to keep the sheriff who wanted to doxx any Democratic voters and possibly take longer to respond to them if they needed help.

 

[faceman]

Looking at past election results, Katrina is really the turning point.
The state even went to JFK.
If NOLA can ever regain its population, it might go back to being a swing state.

I still stand by my point that Louisiana isn’t as blood red as Mississippi, Arkansas, or Alabama because of New Orleans.

Ms. elected Democrat Ronnie Musgrove in that era. Once again Trump changed that by awakening the
angry white vote.

 

[bird]

Ms. elected Democrat Ronnie Musgrove in that era. Once again Trump changed that by awakening the
angry white vote.

Agreed. He tapped into racism. The change in demographics made far too many Whites fearful. What Trump did, imo, was get racists who did not vote decide to get out and vote. That his policies would and do damage less educated Whites is acceptable to them as long as Blacks/Hispanics are damaged as well.

It is class warfare using racism as a tool to drive it.

 

[faceman]

Agreed. He tapped into racism. The change in demographics made far too many Whites fearful. What Trump did, imo, was get racists who did not vote decide to get out and vote. That his policies would and do damage less educated Whites is acceptable to them as long as Blacks/Hispanics are damaged as well.

It is class warfare using racism as a tool to drive it.

I can also add Ala. had a democratic governor at the same time as Musgrove. It will be interesting to see how the
solid south goes once Trump is out of the picture. Imho, no current republican has his charisma

 

[Saint Jack]

I can also add Ala. had a democratic governor at the same time as Musgrove. It will be interesting to see how the
solid south goes once Trump is out of the picture. Imho, no current republican has his charisma

And that’s were I see the cracks in the Republican Party in general.
There is no post Trump plan.
They don’t have a candidate that can survive if he speaks like Trump.

 

[Saint Jack]

Ms. elected Democrat Ronnie Musgrove in that era. Once again Trump changed that by awakening the
angry white vote.

Musgrove has been the only Democratic Mississippi governor in my lifetime.
In my lifetime, the Louisiana governor has shifted from Democratic to Republican every time.

 

[faceman]

Musgrove has been the only Democratic Mississippi governor in my lifetime.
In my lifetime, the Louisiana governor has shifted from Democratic to Republican every time.

Kirk Fordice was the first republican governor of Ms. in my lifetime. He was elected in 1992. You
have to keep in mind those dixiecrats who ruled Ms. later became Republicans

 

[faceman]

And that’s were I see the cracks in the Republican Party in general.
There is no post Trump plan.
They don’t have a candidate that can survive if he speaks like Trump.

We agree here. Trump has said things that would end any politicians career.

 

[Saint Jack]

Kirk Fordice was the first republican governor of Ms. in my lifetime. He was elected in 1992. You
have to keep in mind those dixiecrats who ruled Ms. later became Republicans

Louisiana still has the most changeover from party to party.

 

[Saint Jack]

We agree here. Trump has said things that would end any politicians career.

I just don’t see the Republican strategy of Trump clones working in the long term.

 

[faceman]

I just don’t see the Republican strategy of Trump clones working in the long term.

Once again agreed. I have to give credit to Nate Silver. His poll showed a narrow Trump win.
He also had a poll that showed Harris leading by 18% if Vance were the opponent. It gives
me hope.

 

[Saint Jack]

Once again agreed. I have to give credit to Nate Silver. His poll showed a narrow Trump win.
He also had a poll that showed Harris leading by 18% if Vance were the opponent. It gives
me hope.

Trumps two victories weren’t large.
I know everyone, especially on the right, treat em like it was a Reagan landslide, but Trump’s victories were narrow.
Like the Saints winning on a field goal.