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Were they bitterly married in a previous life?!
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I think we should be clear about the idea - it's not that Republicans have substantially damaged the dignity of the office of the POTUS . . . it's that Donald Trump has. He destroys the dignity of just about everything he gets involved in. Sure, presidents throughout history have had their moments of less than dignified behavior, including Obama and certainly Bill Clinton. But Trump's irresistible compulsion to belittle opponents and critics with schoolyard insults, to trash important American institutions and relationships with ill-conceived and petty rhetoric, and to turn the entire institution of the presidency into an unending campaign speech has damaged the dignity of the office far more than any other as a measure of both volume and magnitude.
I don't think it's fair to Republicans to attribute everything Trump does to the entire party. I don't even think Trump is a Republican, he's an opportunist and a demagogue. I look forward to a restoration of dignity when someone new is in the office - no matter that person's party.
That I definitely agree with. The one thing that is substantially different in all this is the way Trump conducts himself vs previous Presidents.I think we should be clear about the idea - it's not that Republicans have substantially damaged the dignity of the office of the POTUS . . . it's that Donald Trump has. He destroys the dignity of just about everything he gets involved in. Sure, presidents throughout history have had their moments of less than dignified behavior, including Obama and certainly Bill Clinton. But Trump's irresistible compulsion to belittle opponents and critics with schoolyard insults, to trash important American institutions and relationships with ill-conceived and petty rhetoric, and to turn the entire institution of the presidency into an unending campaign speech has damaged the dignity of the office far more than any other as a measure of both volume and magnitude.
I don't think it's fair to Republicans to attribute everything Trump does to the entire party. I don't even think Trump is a Republican, he's an opportunist and a demagogue. I look forward to a restoration of dignity when someone new is in the office - no matter that person's party.
Would have been an easy win for trump as he could have been the bigger man simply because he identifies as male and he's obese. Pelosi couldn't match that. Instead he chose to meet her on her level and be a bigger female dog. Bravo trump. You showed her.
No. Trump's actions were completely within his character.Just to be sure I understand....after both Trump and Pelosi acted like children.....you are saying that it is Trump who is acting out of character?
For reals?Thanks for the well thought out and a very honest reply. I agree with you to an extent on past presidential behavior and for sure present presidential behavior. But I also think that the democratic politicians and the MSM has been just as guilty and in my opinion far more responsible for the degradation of dignity of the office of POTUS.
Imagine if Democrats started yelling "you lie" after every lie that Trump told during the speech. I think he would still be speaking due to the tremendous number of interruptions that would be needed.Didn't a Republican yell "you lie" to Obama during one of his State of the Union speeches?
This shirt is all basically the same unless I'm misunderstanding your point.
They so want each other
I do. We are know Trump is thin skinned and childish to a degree but you can't look at the actions of the Democratic leadership and not say the same thing, if not more. Sitting in a speech at your job and you are playing on your phone, giggling with your friends, walking out when a Supreme court justice's name is brought up because it is triggering (?), tearing up a speech by 3 parts to make sure the camera got the right angle all the while telling us that the president is the child in the room and they are the adults? Get the fork out of here with that. Trump didn't break American Politics by himself, he has plenty of help and the vast majority of the american people are getting really tired of children running around in Washington getting rich as they play us lie the fools we all are.For reals?
C'mon.
It's not childish to be disgusted by disgusting things.tearing up a speech by 3 parts to make sure the camera got the right angle all the while telling us that the president is the child in the room and they are the adults?
It is childish to act childish when you are disgusted by disgusting things. Act like an adult.It's not childish to be disgusted by disgusting things.
I don't deny those things aren't conducive to showing respect or even maturity, nor that it's not just Trump breaking American Politics; however, saying those things have degraded the dignity of the office of the POTUS "far more" than Donald Trump's actual actions, tweets, and speeches? Again, I find that incredibly hard to fathom.I do. We are know Trump is thin skinned and childish to a degree but you can't look at the actions of the Democratic leadership and not say the same thing, if not more. Sitting in a speech at your job and you are playing on your phone, giggling with your friends, walking out when a Supreme court justice's name is brought up because it is triggering (?), tearing up a speech by 3 parts to make sure the camera got the right angle all the while telling us that the president is the child in the room and they are the adults? Get the fork out of here with that. Trump didn't break American Politics by himself, he has plenty of help and the vast majority of the american people are getting really tired of children running around in Washington getting rich as they play us lie the fools we all are.
But I also think that the democratic politicians and the MSM has been just as guilty and in my opinion far more responsible for the degradation of dignity of the office of POTUS.
We shall disagree on this one then. I don't see me convincing you that left has been more toxic with regards to the office in the last 3 years and I don't think you can convince me that Trump has the high score. Most of political leaders are really lacking in most overall redeeming qualities.I don't deny those things aren't conducive to showing respect or even maturity, nor that it's not just Trump breaking American Politics; however, saying those things have degraded the dignity of the office of the POTUS "far more" than Donald Trump's actual actions, tweets, and speeches? Again, I find that incredibly hard to fathom.
I suppose you think that was terribly clever.I am looking into whether she is subject to any red flag laws so we can have any firearms or sharp objects removed from her presence. May want to take away her vodka too.
She also acted like a petulant child and was "playing for the camera" when she ripped up the speech in plain view for all to see.
I suppose you think that was terribly clever.
I tell ya, I do love the faux outrage by Trumpite conservatives
Triggered by a piece of paper being torn up. Don't bat an eye when their dear leader moves to kick people off of Medicaid.
You gotta love it. They march blindly.