Krodwhodat
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Conversations like this are happening a lot more often on social media and this is the mindset of the progressive left. I’m thinking I need to reevaluate my voting this election.
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Hi guys...long time lurker, 2nd time poster (apparently 9th). I don't usually speak on politics because I'm not all that versed in all of the nuances of policy and so on, but Krod, if that one little twitter exchange has you questioning whether "libs" are extreme, then I invite you to venture on over to the political board on Tiger----- to get an idea of what the "other" side looks like. Read some of the stuff over there and really, really think about if you have more in common w/ them or...the seemingly normal people over here.
A couple of odd things I am trying to reconcile in/about this thread.
First the title says “either party” when you talk about finding it difficult to vote but the OP only talks about the progressive left. So it seems that it’s more about how you can’t bring yourself to vote for the left.
fair enough but it’s like half of what I expected when I clicked the thread
secondly, you say the dilemma is voting for policies you don’t agree with vs a person you don’t like. Does that mean you like trumps policies? Maybe developing some detail around that would help people understand better the nature of your personal conflict?
Its pretty bad on TD. I havent been back in 4 years.
Its pretty bad on TD. I havent been back in 4 years.
i got banned for making a joke about QAnon in their thread of thousands of pages. I said something about it being a place to post our “fan fiction”
been a member there for like a decade and that’s what got me banned lol
it’s a racist cesspool
i got banned for making a joke about QAnon in their thread of thousands of pages. I said something about it being a place to post our “fan fiction”
been a member there for like a decade and that’s what got me banned lol
it’s a racist cesspool
You're welcome...I used "seemingly normal" because of the level headed nature of most of the discussion here sans a few outliers...or outliars . but then again, frothing from the mouth extremism is more normal than anything in 2020...so I take that back, you guys are hella abnormal.Thanks for calling us “seemingly normal”. I sincerely got a chuckle out of that.
Political issues mostly. I mean, if someone stands the same as me on political issues but also espouses a whole lot of things I cannot in good conscience support as well I’m not going to vote for that person. If Elizabeth Warren was actively trying to disenfranchise Republican voters and calling them terrorists or traitors just for trying to vote or assemble, or saying she sexually harasses people and brags about that then I couldn’t in good conscience vote for her no matter how much she aligns with me on the political issues.So let me ask you guys, do you vote based on whether you like a candidates personality or based on where they stand on political issues that mean the most to you?
vote for a party that believe in killing babies
Hi guys...long time lurker, 2nd time poster (apparently 9th). I don't usually speak on politics because I'm not all that versed in all of the nuances of policy and so on, but Krod, if that one little twitter exchange has you questioning whether "libs" are extreme, then I invite you to venture on over to the political board on Tiger----- to get an idea of what the "other" side looks like. Read some of the stuff over there and really, really think about if you have more in common w/ them or...the seemingly normal people over here.
I disagree with this, I think extremist are the loudest in each party but not the majority. I think that there are things the dems support that I just can get behind. I think that to come here and give bible quotes and discuss Christian beliefs and then turn around and vote for a party that believe in killing babies would fall right under the hypocrisy you speaking about correct?
That's a question only you could answer. It's easy for me because Biden's policies more closely align with mine than Trump's policies (or lack thereof). That Trump has actively been sabotaging institutional norms and lowering the political discourse dovetails nicely with my policy reasoning.I’m not nor have ever been ashamed to vote for someone or to explain why I have. No American should be or feel like they should be. I’m not a Trump supporter and I have been honest about how I felt about him on here and in my personal life. The more I read about Biden and Harris the less I believe in what direction they want to take the country. So now I am caught in a dilemma, do I vote for policies I don’t believe in, do I vote for a person I don’t like, do I vote third party or do I not vote. I live in CT now so at this point it’s a given Biden is winning by more than 70% here.
I think that to come here and give bible quotes and discuss Christian beliefs and then turn around and vote for a party that believe in killing babies would fall right under the hypocrisy you speaking about correct?
That's a question only you could answer. It's easy for me because Biden's policies more closely align with mine than Trump's policies (or lack thereof). That Trump has actively been sabotaging institutional norms and lowering the political discourse dovetails nicely with my policy reasoning.
If the situations were reversed and Hillary was in office sabotaging the same institutional norms that Trump is currently doing, then I would probably vote for a third-party candidate unless the GOP nominated a fairly moderate person like John Kasich or even Mitt Romney.
Keep in mind that everything Trump and the GOP has been doing over the last couple of years simply lays the groundwork for the Democrats to do the exact same thing, i.e., power does what it wants, thus regardless of your policy views, there is still an argument to be made that protection of the system should be given consideration.
In sum: If you don't think Trump has been sabotaging institutional norms and like his policy positions, then you should vote for Trump. If you do think he's been sabotaging institutional norms and that it lays a dangerous precedent for future administrations to do the same, then consider voting third-party.
Only if you think there is one interpretation of religion (never mind the countless other religions on this planet) and that life begins at conception. Given the vast number of religions and multiple interpretations thereof -- I choose not to give religion any sway in making policy decisions. One person's belief in Jesus or the Buddha is no more or less objectively provable than a belief in Rusty the Talking Wonder Llama.
Who you vote for, it is your business. But given what you have posted on this thread, it is obvious to me you are looking for validation to vote for the GOP's candidate. Otherwise, why even post some random tweet that probably was shared with you from an echo chamber? And really, have you not read anything from QAnon, or what's posted on Tiger Droppings?I’m not nor have ever been ashamed to vote for someone or to explain why I have. No American should be or feel like they should be. I’m not a Trump supporter and I have been honest about how I felt about him on here and in my personal life. The more I read about Biden and Harris the less I believe in what direction they want to take the country. So now I am caught in a dilemma, do I vote for policies I don’t believe in, do I vote for a person I don’t like, do I vote third party or do I not vote. I live in CT now so at this point it’s a given Biden is winning by more than 70% here.
on a side noteit’s ashame that we as Americans are so ugly to one another that we are name calling people who don’t vote the way we do should be a serious wake up call.
I’m not nor have ever been ashamed to vote for someone or to explain why I have. No American should be or feel like they should be. I’m not a Trump supporter and I have been honest about how I felt about him on here and in my personal life. The more I read about Biden and Harris the less I believe in what direction they want to take the country. So now I am caught in a dilemma, do I vote for policies I don’t believe in, do I vote for a person I don’t like, do I vote third party or do I not vote. I live in CT now so at this point it’s a given Biden is winning by more than 70% here.
on a side noteit’s ashame that we as Americans are so ugly to one another that we are name calling people who don’t vote the way we do should be a serious wake up call.
Conversations like this are happening a lot more often on social media and this is the mindset of the progressive left. I’m thinking I need to reevaluate my voting this election.