Krodwhodat
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Conversations like this are happening a lot more often on social media and this is the mindset of the progressive left. I’m thinking I need to reevaluate my voting this election.
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Quite possibly, and for the absolute wrong reasons.Is it really the Republican Party creating the unrest? If Trump wins there will be looting, riots and death, if Biden wins do you think Republicans will take to the streets and burn down cities?
The highlighted part is at best, highly disingenuous, and at worst - and we're very much in worst territory these days - it's dangerous inflammatory rhetoric. Because, if you actually started to believe it and weren't just employing a deliberate exaggeration for shock value, of course there would be unrest. If a governing party literally believed in killing actual babies, would you really expect people to shrug and wait for the next election?I disagree with this, I think extremist are the loudest in each party but not the majority. I think that there are things the dems support that I just can get behind. I think that to come here and give bible quotes and discuss Christian beliefs and then turn around and vote for a party that believe in killing babies would fall right under the hypocrisy you speaking about correct?
So no orgs on the left are causing chaos?Bruh, i guess you havent been paying attention. Trump Supporters were blocking a Biden bus and rammed an escort vehicle. They harass and intimidate at almost every juncture.
Can you tell me when the last time you saw 4x4s with 8 ft flag poles in the bed riding around en masse? Never.
this is what Trump wants. pure chaos. If you cannot see this, and the destruction to our society and think you are immune or above it all, then sit idly by. The man has just said SOON AS ELECTION IS OVER IM SENDING LAWYERS INTO SWING STATES.
When was last time an incumbent or challenger SAID THIS BEFORE THE ELECTION?
I suggest you watch the HBO doc on the 2000 election and the Republican party.
I disagree. I understand that the term most likely comes from a procedure used in Canada to document and address the history and damage done by the Canadian Indian residential school system. It was in issue largely unknown by most Canadians and the government sanctioned a panel to do the deep dive and produce a report - it led to a national apology from the Prime Minister.
But when those like Reich use that terminology to discuss what they see are the rise and abuses of Trumpism, a movement of national United States politics - when he says that supporters should be "named" - I think he is talking about something with a potential to be much more sinister. After Communist takeovers in Southest Asia in the middle of the 20th Century, such commissions were established to identify and publicly name supporters of the imperial systems they overthrew. The result of those commissions was reeducation camps that people typically did not return from.
There's nothing wrong with law enforcement investigations of law-breaking. There's nothing wrong with legislative efforts, including committee hearings, to attempt to shore up weaknesses in American law, including anti-corruption law. But I think we have to be very careful about the rhetoric we use and the tools we use to accomplish those legitimate ends.
A "Truth and Reconciliation Committee" designed to publicly name those who the committee believes committed some injury upon American democracy is very dangerous IMO. It has a very authoritarian ring to it and isn't much different than the "lock them up" mantra that pervades some of Trump's support systems with their own obvious authoritarian tones.
That is why portraying opposing political parties as evil by misrepresenting their beliefs and positions is highly dangerous. Even a cursory awareness of history should let you know it leads to terrible places. You should not vote for a party that makes that a key part of that platform.
Then put abortion to the side for a minute. What other issue is so pressing that we need to continue 4 more years of the current downward spiral?I’m a multiple issue voter.
Both. Trump is terrible and needs to be out of office. The Democratic platform also offers many new ideas that I think will be great for our country, including expanded healthcare access, a legitimate COVID response, plans for addressing climate change, equal rights, infrastructure plans, and better social safety nets.Are you voting for Biden because Trump is a terrible person or because you believe in the democratic platform?
Probably not, but probably because I would disagree on how to fix illegal immigration, and I would probably disagree on what "family values" meant. While I expect our government to try to create policies that lead to fewer abortions, such as free access to birth control and sex education, I generally support the right to an abortion.If there was a good Republican running that had an agenda of fixing illegal immigration, bringing back family values, took a stand against abortion, wanted lower taxes and believed in the American dream for everyone. Would you vote for him?
What if it looks different though? What if it's not buildings being burned, but counter-protestors being shot? What if it's Trump using the military or police? What if it's cars with Trump flags running Biden buses off the road?Never, I will never excuse it. Sorry to disappoint but it’s wrong no matter who does it.
So let me ask you guys, do you vote based on whether you like a candidates personality or based on where they stand on political issues that mean the most to you?
So no orgs on the left are causing chaos?
Both.So let me ask you guys, do you vote based on whether you like a candidates personality or based on where they stand on political issues that mean the most to you?
It's a combination of everything, but I'm voting for Biden because I believe it's fairly obvious that Trump is dangerous and damaging to our democracy and society in a way that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris simply are not.So let me ask you guys, do you vote based on whether you like a candidates personality or based on where they stand on political issues that mean the most to you?
It's a combination of everything, but I'm voting for Biden because I believe it's fairly obvious that Trump is dangerous and damaging to our democracy and society in a way that Joe Biden Kamala Harris simply are not.
They are harassing Biden campaign buses. Observing polls armed. Is that ok? Trump tweeted support for harassing the Biden campaign. Show me where any Dems supported that kind of behavior and not some random person from Twitter. An elected official or person running for office.Never, I will never excuse it. Sorry to disappoint but it’s wrong no matter who does it.
Voted for libertarian Bob Barr I think was his name in 2008 (was a Ron Paul guy back then).. that Obama in 2012 though I afterwards regretted not voting third party... And then Hillary in 2016.And for the record, I voted for GWB in my first presidential election, then I wrote in Homer J Simpson for his second term. Voted Obama for his first term (because of Sarah Palin), and then went back to voting for Homer J Simpson for Obama's second term.
I voted for Kasich in the 2016 primaries, and that would have been my vote if he made it to the general, but he didn't so I voted for Clinton and didn't even think twice about it because of how bad I think Trump is. It wasn't even close, and I don't have a high opinion of the Clintons.