The Voting Thread (Procedures, Turnout, Legal Challenges)(Update: Trump to file suit in PA, MI, WI, AZ, NV, GA) (10 Viewers)

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    Lapaz

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    There is a lot of push-back from Trump on voting by mail, but most states allow it, and 1/3 allow it without any excuse. His rationale is that it will lead to vast fraud, but of course that isn't his real reason. His real reason is that he thinks it will be worse for conservatives, but studies have shown that states that have instituted much broader voting by mail haven't had any statistical changes in party voting.



    Although, normally voting by mail doesn't affect party votes, I bet it might this year if we have another resurgence of Covid, because I think the right is much more apt to discount the virus than the left. I know that is why Trump is against it.

    Whether you're left or right wing, expanding mail in votes is the right thing to do to reduce the likelihood of spreading the virus, to expand voter participation, and to make it easier for those that do show up to stay distant. It will also allow any people with susceptibilities to remain safer. I think voting by mail could be made extremely secure by having people vote using traditional postal mail, coupled with requiring a confirmation either by phone, email or text. If done by phone, then voters can provide confirmation that can include confirming their form number. If done by email or text, it can include a picture of their form, and then confirmation that that was their form. Rather than staffers individually calling people, this can be automated by having voters call the number, text the number, or email the address provided to them on their form. A website can even be created with a database of those that have voted, and perhaps a link to allow people to confirm their vote was correctly registered. For people without computers, a site can include a means to access the database over the phone with some confirmation information. These types of systems are used extensively by banks and other sites that need security, so I think they are mature enough to use. We could even use such a site for people to confirm their vote on the day of the election.
     
    LA is also well past its certification date. I can't help but wonder if there's something cooking there . . . obviously not because the result was bad for Republicans but if there might be an effort to resist certification in other states like Georgia, would it be helpful for GOP allied states like LA to have also not certified. "Put the whole system on trial!"

    It's the sort of silly conspiracy theory I typically dismiss and discourage. But it is curious. Perhaps there's a better reason, I haven't seen any discussion about it. Or it could just be LA and nothing is on time.
    His schtick was just as illegal but it was in 2019, not 2020.
     
    A Very very good point

    Someone should ask Jenna Ellis about it
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    Looks like some are finally seeing reality.
    A Very very good point

    Someone should ask Jenna Ellis about it
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    I don’t think we should start giving Trump ideas.
     
    A Very very good point

    Someone should ask Jenna Ellis about it
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    Because if he was in on it, as his own words convict him of, he can't be the one to discover it.
    A massive, successful Russian effort to rig the election, aided and abetted by Trump, has to be organically found.
    Once it is, he can argue to have the entire thing thrown out and schedule a do-over at some unspecified future date. "When we get a handle on it."
     
    Don't like seeing this.



    Remember the outrage some members of the GOP and voters on the right had when people like Sarah Sanders were asked to leave a restaurant due to their actions/job.

    I don't recall her getting death threats.

    I hope we all have outrage at violence towards people just doing their jobs.
     

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