The Voting Thread (Procedures, Turnout, Legal Challenges)(Update: Trump to file suit in PA, MI, WI, AZ, NV, GA) (14 Viewers)

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    Lapaz

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    There is a lot of push-back from Trump on voting by mail, but most states allow it, and 1/3 allow it without any excuse. His rationale is that it will lead to vast fraud, but of course that isn't his real reason. His real reason is that he thinks it will be worse for conservatives, but studies have shown that states that have instituted much broader voting by mail haven't had any statistical changes in party voting.



    Although, normally voting by mail doesn't affect party votes, I bet it might this year if we have another resurgence of Covid, because I think the right is much more apt to discount the virus than the left. I know that is why Trump is against it.

    Whether you're left or right wing, expanding mail in votes is the right thing to do to reduce the likelihood of spreading the virus, to expand voter participation, and to make it easier for those that do show up to stay distant. It will also allow any people with susceptibilities to remain safer. I think voting by mail could be made extremely secure by having people vote using traditional postal mail, coupled with requiring a confirmation either by phone, email or text. If done by phone, then voters can provide confirmation that can include confirming their form number. If done by email or text, it can include a picture of their form, and then confirmation that that was their form. Rather than staffers individually calling people, this can be automated by having voters call the number, text the number, or email the address provided to them on their form. A website can even be created with a database of those that have voted, and perhaps a link to allow people to confirm their vote was correctly registered. For people without computers, a site can include a means to access the database over the phone with some confirmation information. These types of systems are used extensively by banks and other sites that need security, so I think they are mature enough to use. We could even use such a site for people to confirm their vote on the day of the election.
     
    Just coming to post this, GA. Just saw it on Twitter



    But not before one of Trump’s cult members gives up what they had hoped would happen:



    Is there no consequence for openly rooting for the destruction of an American principle, like free and fair elections?


    Is that the lawyer Bill Maher interviewed?
     
    This is the world we’re living in folks. One is mostly real. The other is mostly a delusion.



    Honest to God, one Trump minion (a blue checkmark, I forget who) said they knew Rudy was doing well because he had established such great rapport with the judge. And they knew that because the judge was giving Rudy recommendations for local establishments.
     
    Honest to God, one Trump minion (a blue checkmark, I forget who) said they knew Rudy was doing well because he had established such great rapport with the judge. And they knew that because the judge was giving Rudy recommendations for local establishments.
    bless their heart.
     

    It's truly the one thing that they are great at doing, from2017:

    Thank you very much. This really is the group. What a great group of people. and they’re not even doing it for the party, they’re doing it for this country — because we suffered with Obamacare. I went through two years of campaigning, and I’m telling you, no matter where I went, people were suffering so badly with the ravages of Obamacare.

    And I will say this, that as far as I’m concerned, your premiums, they’re going to start to come down. We’re going to get this passed through the Senate. I feel so confident. Your deductibles, when it comes to deductibles, they were so ridiculous that nobody got to use their current plan — this nonexistent plan that I heard so many wonderful things about over the last three or four days. After that, I mean, it’s — I don’t think you’re going to hear so much. Right now, the insurance companies are fleeing. It’s been a catastrophe. And this is a great plan. I actually think it will get even better. And this is, make no mistake, this is a repeal and replace of Obamacare. Make no mistake about it. Make no mistake. (Applause.)
    And I think, most importantly, yes, premiums will be coming down. Yes, deductibles will be coming down. But very importantly, it’s a great plan. And ultimately, that’s what it’s all about.

    3 years later...
     
    So some are crediting this guy with shaming the two R vote canvassers in Wayne County. He exposes their racist stunt for what it is.


    Ned is a very bright and involved guy. He's on many local boards, mostly focusing on economic growth. He also ran for office, but lost in the primary.

    Some stuff from him from a few years ago.

     




    She actually did really well on Bill Maher, considering how detached from reality she is.. Bill was right when he said that ‘Trump picked the right person for the job’, becuase she was quick with her retorts and talking points.. unfortunately they were all- ‘truth-challenged’, to put it mildly.. but, bless her heart, she’s obviously a true believer and her self-admitted Christian evangelicalism was shining through.
     

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