The Voting Thread (Procedures, Turnout, Legal Challenges)(Update: Trump to file suit in PA, MI, WI, AZ, NV, GA) (1 Viewer)

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    Lapaz

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    There is a lot of push-back from Trump on voting by mail, but most states allow it, and 1/3 allow it without any excuse. His rationale is that it will lead to vast fraud, but of course that isn't his real reason. His real reason is that he thinks it will be worse for conservatives, but studies have shown that states that have instituted much broader voting by mail haven't had any statistical changes in party voting.



    Although, normally voting by mail doesn't affect party votes, I bet it might this year if we have another resurgence of Covid, because I think the right is much more apt to discount the virus than the left. I know that is why Trump is against it.

    Whether you're left or right wing, expanding mail in votes is the right thing to do to reduce the likelihood of spreading the virus, to expand voter participation, and to make it easier for those that do show up to stay distant. It will also allow any people with susceptibilities to remain safer. I think voting by mail could be made extremely secure by having people vote using traditional postal mail, coupled with requiring a confirmation either by phone, email or text. If done by phone, then voters can provide confirmation that can include confirming their form number. If done by email or text, it can include a picture of their form, and then confirmation that that was their form. Rather than staffers individually calling people, this can be automated by having voters call the number, text the number, or email the address provided to them on their form. A website can even be created with a database of those that have voted, and perhaps a link to allow people to confirm their vote was correctly registered. For people without computers, a site can include a means to access the database over the phone with some confirmation information. These types of systems are used extensively by banks and other sites that need security, so I think they are mature enough to use. We could even use such a site for people to confirm their vote on the day of the election.
     
    So, the Wayne County Board of Canvassers deadlocked (2-2) along party lines and thus have failed to certify the election in the county that includes Detroit. It’s a shameful act, and it won’t stop the MI election from being certified, I don’t think. But it’s just another indication of the lengths Trumpists will go to and the depths they will sink to.

     
    Clearly, Rudy is just embarrassing. Normal scrutiny? :freak7:


    What the actual fork.
    You know, I could probably lend Rudy my con law books (and I majored in con history). They could be helpful to him.

    :hihi:
    My Ed Law books covered this. Like, I know more about this with a masters in educational administration than Rudy does right now.
     
    So, the Wayne County Board of Canvassers deadlocked (2-2) along party lines and thus have failed to certify the election in the county that includes Detroit. It’s a shameful act, and it won’t stop the MI election from being certified, I don’t think. But it’s just another indication of the lengths Trumpists will go to and the depths they will sink to.



    Do they not have to have, like, reasoning for this? Seems like you shouldn’t be able to just drag certification out without something concrete.
     
    Do they not have to have, like, reasoning for this? Seems like you shouldn’t be able to just drag certification out without something concrete.
    CNN is about to interview an election law export about what this means.
     
    So this happened:

    In an interview with local KRMG, first picked up by the Hill, the Oklahoma senator James Lankford was asked what he thought of the refusal by the office of the director of national intelligence to brief the president-elect until another arm of the bureaucracy certified Biden’s victory.

    “There is no loss from him getting the briefings, and to be able to do that,” said Lankford. “And if that’s not occurring by Friday, I will step in as well, and to be able to push and to say this needs to occur, so that regardless of the outcome of the election ... people can be ready for that actual task.”

    then not long after the crawfishing began:



    I wonder who called him up and admonished him for trying to do what was right for the country



    quoting myself because just as predicted:


    During an interview with conservative outlet Newsmax on Saturday, Lankford accused the media of overblowing his comments earlier in the week.

    “I’m not in a hurry, necessarily, to get Joe Biden these briefings,” Lankford said. “It’s been interesting how the media ― national media, not this network but others ― have twisted this term ‘step in.’”
     
    Just coming to post this, GA. Just saw it on Twitter



    But not before one of Trump’s cult members gives up what they had hoped would happen:



    Is there no consequence for openly rooting for the destruction of an American principle, like free and fair elections?
     

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