The Voting Thread (Procedures, Turnout, Legal Challenges)(Update: Trump to file suit in PA, MI, WI, AZ, NV, GA) (5 Viewers)

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    Lapaz

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    There is a lot of push-back from Trump on voting by mail, but most states allow it, and 1/3 allow it without any excuse. His rationale is that it will lead to vast fraud, but of course that isn't his real reason. His real reason is that he thinks it will be worse for conservatives, but studies have shown that states that have instituted much broader voting by mail haven't had any statistical changes in party voting.



    Although, normally voting by mail doesn't affect party votes, I bet it might this year if we have another resurgence of Covid, because I think the right is much more apt to discount the virus than the left. I know that is why Trump is against it.

    Whether you're left or right wing, expanding mail in votes is the right thing to do to reduce the likelihood of spreading the virus, to expand voter participation, and to make it easier for those that do show up to stay distant. It will also allow any people with susceptibilities to remain safer. I think voting by mail could be made extremely secure by having people vote using traditional postal mail, coupled with requiring a confirmation either by phone, email or text. If done by phone, then voters can provide confirmation that can include confirming their form number. If done by email or text, it can include a picture of their form, and then confirmation that that was their form. Rather than staffers individually calling people, this can be automated by having voters call the number, text the number, or email the address provided to them on their form. A website can even be created with a database of those that have voted, and perhaps a link to allow people to confirm their vote was correctly registered. For people without computers, a site can include a means to access the database over the phone with some confirmation information. These types of systems are used extensively by banks and other sites that need security, so I think they are mature enough to use. We could even use such a site for people to confirm their vote on the day of the election.
     
    Nancy is holding their feet to the fire over this, good



    Good, put them on record. The Senate too. They don't care about the people. Only about their own political power. If they can't horse trade and get some sort of benefit from people getting what they need, then they want nothing to do with it.
     
    I am seeing a report now that the original stimulus bill is being sent to Florida, “just in case” Trump decides to sign it. No link, forgot to copy it.
     
    I just do not see how Sidney Powell doesn’t end up getting disbarred over this sort of crap:


    Powell has used an affidavit from this kook in at least two suits filed over election fraud. Doesn’t the attorney have any responsibility for ascertaining anything about the evidence presented? This idiot just posted a statement that is totally made up, and claims some expertise that she cannot prove, and Powell sticks it in a lawsuit without attribution. She said she never met Powell or anything.

    This cannot be ethical lawyering, can it?
     
    yet another protest
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    Trump supporters are planning a rally on Jan. 6, the same day Congress is set to officially approve the 2020 election results, according to a flyer on the Trump March website.

    The organization's website said they plan to "demand transparency and protect the election integrity" after President Trump warned via Twitter that there would be a "very big" and "wild" protest on Jan. 6 after he refuses to concede due to unfound allegations of election fraud.

    "The president is calling on us to come back to Washington on January 6th for a big protest--' Be there, will be wild,'" the group stated on a flyer posted on their website..................

    'Be there, will be wild' | Pro-Trump protest expected on day Congress set to certify 2020 election results (msn.com)


     
    This just never ends



    This suit is evidently fatally flawed just like all the rest of them. Probably no standing and not justiciable. Mike Dunford says it is sanctionable, though, because it falsely asserts that the AZ state legislature “endorsed” a competing slate of electors for Trump. They did not. The AZ legislature wasn’t in session on the date in December that the Trump electors met and voted with the presence of about 12 state representatives and 8 state senators. This is less than a third of the total number of these legislative bodies.

    This is just completely insane “cosplay” (Dunford’s word) in an attempt to overthrow a properly certified election. It’s anti-democratic and un-American. Someone tweeted that Jeff Session’s signature is on the suit. My hope is that everyone involved in this is formally sanctioned.

    Dunford’s complete description of the plaintiffs:

    “Actually, the relevant facts appear to damn well be in dispute if you weapons-grade dingleberries are claiming that a pack of cosplaying treasonweasels are legitimate electors with the approval of their state legislatures.”
     
    yet another protest
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    Trump supporters are planning a rally on Jan. 6, the same day Congress is set to officially approve the 2020 election results, according to a flyer on the Trump March website.

    The organization's website said they plan to "demand transparency and protect the election integrity" after President Trump warned via Twitter that there would be a "very big" and "wild" protest on Jan. 6 after he refuses to concede due to unfound allegations of election fraud.

    "The president is calling on us to come back to Washington on January 6th for a big protest--' Be there, will be wild,'" the group stated on a flyer posted on their website..................

    'Be there, will be wild' | Pro-Trump protest expected on day Congress set to certify 2020 election results (msn.com)



    "be there, will be wild"

    If something happens at the Jan 6 protest at the Capitol and someone gets hurt, can we finally bring up charges against any and everyone that participated in this attempted coup.
     

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