The Trump Cabinet and key post thread (1 Viewer)

[superchuck500]

Surely to be a clown show. We know that RFK certainly thinks he’s getting nominated for HHS, which includes FDA.

 

[MT15]

I might be wrong,But I believe Trump will cast RFK Jr. aside. He's no use to him anymore. I also believe
some republicans will cross the aisle to help prevent him from getting any high ranking position.

I sure hope so.

 

[MT15]

Nice talk here…

 

[MT15]

This made me chuckle

 

[MT15]

Rumor so far. Wouldn’t surprise me if he tries it, but wouldn’t it be challenged?

 

[Infoman]

President-elect Trump announces his White House chief of staff

Susie Wiles is a longtime Florida-based Republican strategist who ran Trump’s campaign in the state in 2016 and 2020, and his national campaign in 2024.

www.wwltv.com

WASHINGTON — President-elect Donald Trump has named Susie Wiles, the manager of his victorious campaign, as his White House chief of staff, the first woman to hold the influential role.

 

[faceman]

Rumor so far. Wouldn’t surprise me if he tries it, but wouldn’t it be challenged?

in the words of Keith Moon. That will fly like a Lead balloon

 

[superchuck500]

Rumor so far. Wouldn’t surprise me if he tries it, but wouldn’t it be challenged?

Think this kind of thing is better left to believe it when you see it. There’s a lot of different people saying different things right now but none of it is actually real and we don’t know how seriously they’re being considered it at all.

 

[faceman]

Think this kind of thing is better left to believe it when you see it. There’s a lot of different people saying different things right now but none of it is actually real and we don’t know how seriously they’re being considered it at all.

Yes, this will not pass constitutional muster.

 

[superchuck500]

Yes, this will not pass constitutional muster.

I’m sure some crafty Heritage type lawyer could come up with language that basically says that the official pledges not to deviate from the president’s agenda or instruction except where the official knows or strongly suspects the action is illegal or unconstitutional. I really don’t know but I can’t imagine that’s unconstitutional. It may violate some other aspect of federal employment law or executive branch law.

But more importantly, the question is, is it actually meaningful because of the protections federal employees have from termination for allegedly violating such a pledge? What’s the enforcement mechanism?

The current law is that the administration cannot simply fire a civil service employee or career (non-political) official for a view that the official is not following the administration’s agenda. There’s a whole process with protections in place. The Heritage Foundation and P25 both want to get rid of these “Schedule F” protections to basically make these civil servants “at will” employees - and Russell Vought is the key proponent of this. Keep an eye out for where he ends up as to how serious Trump is about this.

 

[superchuck500]

 

[Greg]

Some guesses

Rubio - State
Pompeo - Defense
Mike Lee - Justice
Burgum - Energy
Tom Homan - HS
RFK - HHS
Tulsi - UN

 

[MT15]

The current law is that the administration cannot simply fire a civil service employee or career (non-political) official for a view that the official is not following the administration’s agenda.

What is the enforcement mechanism? What if the administration just goes ahead and fires them in defiance of the law? What happens then? Who steps in and enforces the law?

 

[CoolBrees]

What is the enforcement mechanism? What if the administration just goes ahead and fires them in defiance of the law? What happens then? Who steps in and enforces the law?

Ask the ATC's that got fired by Reagan.

 

[faceman]

Some guesses

Rubio - State
Pompeo - Defense
Mike Lee - Justice
Burgum - Energy
Tom Homan - HS
RFK - HHS
Tulsi - UN

Rubio co-sponsored a bill that prevents the President from soley deciding if the U.S. withdraws from NATO. Trump may
punish him for that.

 

[faceman]

I sure hope so.

Other than anti-vaccination RFK is a liberal. Trump will wash his hands of him Imho.

 

[MT15]

Other than anti-vaccination RFK is a liberal. Trump will wash his hands of him Imho.

He’s no liberal, IMO, he’s a whacko conspiracy theorist. He comes at it from a democratic family, is all. He doesn’t hold liberal values, at least that’s not my perception.

 

[faceman]

He’s no liberal, IMO, he’s a whacko conspiracy theorist. He comes at it from a democratic family, is all. He doesn’t hold liberal values, at least that’s not my perception.

Before the strange marriage, Trump had harsh words for Jr. One issue I know Jr. is very liberal on is gun control. That's
been known for ages. That's not going to fly with Trump supporters.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/28/donald-trump-robert-kennedy-liberal-00154828

Junior’ is totally Anti-Gun, an Extreme Environmentalist who makes the Green New Scammers look Conservative, a Big Time Taxer and Open Border Advocate, and Anti-Military/Vet…” Trump wrote.

 

[superchuck500]

What is the enforcement mechanism? What if the administration just goes ahead and fires them in defiance of the law? What happens then? Who steps in and enforces the law?

There’s a process but ultimately the federal district court in DC (not favorable to an ultra vires Trump administration) and the DC Circuit (not favorable to an ultra vires Trump administration) are the reviewing courts - and then the SCOTUS that i think favors Trump but only to the degree the law will allow. They will give him the gray area or ambiguity, but they’re not going to give him authority to contravene clear law. And that’s only on the cases they choose to accept.