The Joe Biden 2020 tracker thread (3 Viewers)

[Intensesaint]

A place for all the gaffs, slip-ups and overall outlandish things Democratic candidates will say or do in lead up to the 2020 Election.

 

[wardorican]

Why Buttigieg Dropped Out

Pete Buttigieg pulled off a surprisingly successful presidential run. The 38-year-old former mayor of South Bend, the fourth-largest city in Indiana, was unable…

fivethirtyeight.com

An opinion from fivethirtyeight.

But beating expectations and winning primaries and caucuses are different things. By this past weekend, Buttigieg appeared to have little chance of winning the nomination, and on Sunday news broke that Buttigieg will reportedly end his bid for the presidency. He finished far behind Sen. Bernie Sanders in Nevada and way, way behind former Vice President Joe Biden in South Carolina. He had stalled out at around 10 or 11 percent in national polls, and there was a good chance he would fail to reach 15 percent — typically the threshold to win delegates to the national convention — in any of the 14 states voting on Super Tuesday and in a ton of congressional districts. It just didn’t seem like Buttigieg had a path to start accumulating delegates.

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So Buttigieg’s departure may have seemed sudden, but it’s likely that the former mayor was going to struggle on Super Tuesday and possibly run out of campaign funds. So this decision is a face-saving move for him.

That said, I don’t think Buttigieg’s departure is solely due to his struggles. Elite voices in the Democratic Party have been worried that the multiple center-left candidates in the race — Biden, Buttigieg, former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, Sen. Amy Klobuchar, etc. — would divide the non-Sanders vote, potentially allowing the Vermont senator to amass a huge lead in delegates on Super Tuesday while his rivals finished below 15 percent in many states. South Carolina is only one state, but Biden’s resounding win there suggests that the former vice president can combine older, moderate voters, black and white, into a big coalition in a way that Buttigieg probably could not. So my view is that Buttigieg stepped aside in part to help the center-left bloc of the party consolidate around Biden. To some extent, he was being a team player.

Why would Buttigieg do that? The former mayor might genuinely think that Sanders would be a terrible nominee for the Democratic Party. But there is a potential upside for Buttigieg in making this decision too. At his age, Buttigieg has four decades to try to become president. In leaving the race now, he builds goodwill with Democratic Party officials broadly and Biden in particular. If Biden is elected president, it’s easy to imagine him putting Buttigieg in a top administration post that helps Buttigieg fill out his resume — think U.S. ambassador to the United Nations. And goodwill among party officials will help Buttigieg if, as I expect, he eventually runs for president again.

 

[The moose]

Jim Clyburn is biden's MVP.

Biden was super close until Jim got behind him. The polls Biden and Sanders were within a few points then after Jim got behind him it was then a blowout.

Tomorrow is gonna be fun. With all the early votes I tend to think Sanders is gonna kick butt.

California had almost 40 percent vote early.

This is getting fun.

 

[Port City JJ]

They are all working in tandem.

I don't think anyone implied that Pete was this insider recruited by the DNC to knock off Bernie. I do think that there's more than likely a pretty obvious reason he dropped out right before the primaries, though. It's not conspiracy, but thinking Pete's sudden bow had no connection to the establishment scrambling like mad to push their candidate is just ignoring the writing on the wall.

I implied that I believe that he was a plant. I believe the DNC has been conspiracy to ensure Bernie doesn't get the nomination since before the 2016 election.



It's clear they did then, you don't think they would now?

 

[Heathen]

93 Democratic superdelegates willing to stop Sanders-NYT

 

[GMRfellowtraveller]

Looks like the moderates are banding together under the Biden tent

Should be a competitive primary. It will be interesting to see when Warren drops out and who she endorses.

I was forged in the fires of 70s/80s saints football so bear with me
Obviously a chunk of Amy/Pete voters go to Biden - but not all
I wonder if this last week does not encourage voters to take another look at Warren
She will certainly get some of those votes - hopefully enough to get a healthy chunk over 15%
If she comes in 2ndin some of today’s races, we might still have an interesting race

 

[Beach Friends]

 

[brandon]

Wait, so the whole owning was just asking the question and then sitting quietly while listening to a response?

 

[EmBeeFiveOhFour]

 

[Beach Friends]

Wait, so the whole owning was just asking the question and then sitting quietly while listening to a response?

I don't care about the comments, just the answer Bloomberg gave - which was was a long winded "yes."

 

[brandon]

This is why it's so frustrating that everyone is coalescing behind Biden. He's a nice guy. Honestly, he'd probably make a great president.

But there's just no forking way he's getting by Trump in a debate. None.

 

[brandon]

I don't care about the comments, just the answer Bloomberg gave - which was was a long winded "yes."

Hardly. He first addressed the question by pointing out that a high-profile person, such as the mayor of New York and a billionaire running for president, is realistically at more risk of an attack than Joe Schmoe in the audience. It's not saying "my life is more important than yours," it's saying "my likelihood of being assassinated is higher than yours." And that's factually correct.

Then he pivoted to typical moderate gun control policy.

 

[Beach Friends]

This is why it's so frustrating that everyone is coalescing behind Biden. He's a nice guy. Honestly, he'd probably make a great president.

But there's just no forking way he's getting by Trump in a debate. None.

You're right. The Democrats could not put forth one decent candidate. Honestly, it's like they know they can't beat Trump and they are digging up whatever sacrificial lambs they can find. At least it has been amusing.

 

[Beach Friends]

Hardly. He first addressed the question by pointing out that a high-profile person, such as the mayor of New York and a billionaire running for president, is realistically at more risk of an attack than Joe Schmoe in the audience. It's not saying "my life is more important than yours," it's saying "my likelihood of being assassinated is higher than yours." And that's factually correct.

Then he pivoted to typical moderate gun control policy.

"When you're wealthy...."

 

[brandon]

You're right. The Democrats could not put forth one decent candidate. Honestly, it's like they know they can't beat Trump and they are digging up whatever sacrificial lambs they can find. At least it has been amusing.

Warren would wipe the floor with Trump. Sanders likely, as well.

And they're both fantastic candidates for president who would accomplish great things for our country.

 

[brandon]

"When you're wealthy...."

I think Bloomberg is an awful candidate who likely believes his life is more important than others.

But what he said isn’t incorrect. He’s much more realistically a target than that guy in the audience.

 

[samiam5211]

"When you're wealthy...."

Wealthy people often have a higher need for security than the rest of us.

Are you disputing that fact?

 

[The moose]

You're right. The Democrats could not put forth one decent candidate. Honestly, it's like they know they can't beat Trump and they are digging up whatever sacrificial lambs they can find. At least it has been amusing.

Yeah i guess you could also look at it another way.

The republicans could not even find a republican. Not a republican in anyway possible last go around.

I seriously don't even think trump will beat anyone in a debate. Last time he had no track record to be attacked on. Now it is just laughable the numerous stuff now.

 

[JimEverett]

Wealthy people often have a higher need for security than the rest of us.

Are you disputing that fact?

So that means they should have the right to things that other people do not have a right to?