The Joe Biden 2020 tracker thread (11 Viewers)

[Intensesaint]

A place for all the gaffs, slip-ups and overall outlandish things Democratic candidates will say or do in lead up to the 2020 Election.

 

[wardorican]

I have thought for a while that he was a DNC plant to help usurp Sanders. He has serious Hilary connections in his staff.

He wasn't a plant. That's silly.

He tried to run for DNC chair. A lot of people liked him, they just thought he was young. He's bright, writes his own important speeches. He got connections while running.

Buttigieg’s bid for DNC chair ended with a thud. Will 2020 be different?

The South Bend, Ind., mayor flashed some of the skills and strategies fueling his presidential campaign when he ran for DNC chair in 2017.

www.politico.com

And I'd say Lis Smith is the huge reason he got his name out so fast. She did some work with Obama's campaign. She's aggressive and wants her candidate to talk to everyone possible.

‘I Want Him on Everything’: Meet the Woman Behind the Buttigieg Media Frenzy

How hard-charging New York operative Lis Smith helped<b> </b>turn an obscure Indiana mayor into a national name.

www.politico.com

 

[MT15]

Conspiracy theories are universal. Sigh. They cause huge problems for our society, no matter which side pushes them. And it seems that each side can see the other sides conspiracies, but then immediately pivot to their own.

 

[Dadsdream]

Black Lives Matter protesters took over the stage and shut down Amy Klobuchar's rally in her home state of Minnesota yesterday.
South Carolina polls showed 1% support for her among African-Americans. I think she's done.

Klobuchar cancels campaign event after protesters occupy stage | CNN Politics

Sen. Amy Klobuchar’s campaign announced they would cancel a Sunday evening campaign event after dozens of protestors took the stage and would not leave inside a high school gym in St. Louis Park, Minnesota.

www.cnn.com

 

[brandon]

I think Biden as the nominee is honestly HRC Part II.

He's just not motivating enough for people to get out to vote for him.

 

[Port City JJ]

He wasn't a plant. That's silly.

He tried to run for DNC chair. A lot of people liked him, they just thought he was young. He's bright, writes his own important speeches. He got connections while running.

Buttigieg’s bid for DNC chair ended with a thud. Will 2020 be different?

The South Bend, Ind., mayor flashed some of the skills and strategies fueling his presidential campaign when he ran for DNC chair in 2017.

www.politico.com

And I'd say Lis Smith is the huge reason he got his name out so fast. She did some work with Obama's campaign. She's aggressive and wants her candidate to talk to everyone possible.

‘I Want Him on Everything’: Meet the Woman Behind the Buttigieg Media Frenzy

How hard-charging New York operative Lis Smith helped<b> </b>turn an obscure Indiana mayor into a national name.

www.politico.com

I get it's "conspiracy theory"ish, but not that its silly?

Do you think the DNC is above doing something nefarious to sway the nomination?

Lis Smith has DEEP ties and roots to the DNC, and power struggles within the DNC does not indicate they would not work together to influence the nomination.

Of his top advisers there is only one that has been with him since he ran for mayor. Lis Simth, make no mistake" is heavily entrenched with the DNC. She's married to Eliot Spitzer.

Marcus Switzer is also one of the heads of his staff. He was a staffer on both Obama and Clinton campaigns.

Steven Brokow was another obama staffer.

Chris Meagher is his press secretary, he previously worked for U.S. Rep. Lois Capp, who proudly for her last act before retirement, cast her super delegate vote for Hilary.


His staff is filled with DNC friendlies and people who have worked closely with Biden.


His exiting now opens up the delegates that would have gone to him, to now vote for Biden.


I dont think its very silly at all.

 

[JimEverett]

I think Biden as the nominee is honestly HRC Part II.

He's just not motivating enough for people to get out to vote for him.

I get that thinking. But I also see the other side as well. Trump has such high negatives that if you can get someone where the negatives cannot be piled on then that person will beat Trump. I don't think Trump can raise Biden's negatives all that higher. Certainly not to Clinton's level.

At the same time, I didn't think the W. campaign could raise Kerry's negatives the way they did - and certainly not raise them on the issue of military service.

 

[Lapaz]

I get it's "conspiracy theory"ish, but not that its silly?

Do you think the DNC is above doing something nefarious to sway the nomination?

Lis Smith has DEEP ties and roots to the DNC, and power struggles within the DNC does not indicate they would not work together to influence the nomination.

Of his top advisers there is only one that has been with him since he ran for mayor. Lis Simth, make no mistake" is heavily entrenched with the DNC. She's married to Eliot Spitzer.

Marcus Switzer is also one of the heads of his staff. He was a staffer on both Obama and Clinton campaigns.

Steven Brokow was another obama staffer.

Chris Meagher is his press secretary, he previously worked for U.S. Rep. Lois Capp, who proudly for her last act before retirement, cast her super delegate vote for Hilary.


His staff is filled with DNC friendlies and people who have worked closely with Biden.


His exiting now opens up the delegates that would have gone to him, to now vote for Biden.


I dont think its very silly at all.

So what if Pete is a DNC plant? Why does it matter if they pushed his candidacy? Everyone can choose to vote for someone else unless they think Pete is better.

 

[Port City JJ]

So what if Pete is a DNC plant? Why does it matter if they pushed his candidacy? Everyone can choose to vote for someone else unless they think Pete is better.

It's about Joe Biden.

It's about taking energy away from Sanders.

Its about fixing to primaries AGAIN to ensure ANOTHER empty suit that is beholden to corporate america and wall street gets on the top of the Democratic ticket.

 

[insidejob]

Yep but his wireless pack for his microphone is why it is tucked in. It is right in the picture. That pic was snapped right before a show in Detroit.

You know the untucked thing is cool but he is going to do his job. Do you want cops to untuck their shirts and they can't get to their belts also?

Well, of course not. I tuck my shirt in every day when I go to the office. I've seen many bands/singers leave their jersey untucked with the microphone pack on. They just run it under they jersey and it pops out the head hole in the back.

 

[Beach Friends]

It's about Joe Biden.

It's about taking energy away from Sanders.

Its about fixing to primaries AGAIN to ensure ANOTHER empty suit that is beholden to corporate america and wall street gets on the top of the Democratic ticket.

Yeah, I think the DNC's primary goal at this point is to keep Bernie off the ticket. For them, that's the nightmare scenario.

I think they would prefer another 4 years of Trump to a Sanders' presidency. Most of what they are doing at this point is aimed at holding Bernie to a plurality going into the convention.

It was helpful for Pete to get out before Tuesday. Amy and Liz are needed through tomorrow to try to keep MN and MA from going to Bernie.

 

[insidejob]

Tom Steyer dropped out... and went out dancing??



(technically this was before he dropped out - maybe this was the final nail)

Juvenile with Galactic on "From the Corner to the Block" is one of my favorite songs ever. If you've never heard that Galactic album, stop what you're doing and go start listening to it. Tons of great lyricists on it.

 

[Beach Friends]

Yeah, I think the DNC's primary goal at this point is to keep Bernie off the ticket. For them, that's the nightmare scenario.

I think they would prefer another 4 years of Trump to a Sanders' presidency. Most of what they are doing at this point is aimed at holding Bernie to a plurality going into the convention.

It was helpful for Pete to get out before Tuesday. Amy and Liz are needed through tomorrow to try to keep MN and MA from going to Bernie.

Well that didn't age well re: Amy.


Nonetheless, all of these dropouts on the eve of Super Tuesday is a good indication that there is a lot of backroom dealing going on and it's apparently all with one goal - stop Bernie.

 

[Dadsdream]

Black Lives Matter protesters took over the stage and shut down Amy Klobuchar's rally in her home state of Minnesota yesterday.
South Carolina polls showed 1% support for her among African-Americans. I think she's done.

Klobuchar cancels campaign event after protesters occupy stage | CNN Politics

Sen. Amy Klobuchar’s campaign announced they would cancel a Sunday evening campaign event after dozens of protestors took the stage and would not leave inside a high school gym in St. Louis Park, Minnesota.

www.cnn.com

Confirmed. Amy Klobuchar is done and she's endorsing Bernie . . . oops! BIDEN.

Klobuchar is ending her presidential bid, will endorse Biden

 

[GrandAdmiral]

Wow. Not only endorsing him, but plans on showing up on stage with him tonight. If Pete was considering the same, she beat him to the punch.

 

[Port City JJ]

Wow. Not only endorsing him, but plans on showing up on stage with him tonight. If Pete was considering the same, she beat him to the punch.

Pete Buttigieg endorses Joe Biden | CNN Politics

Pete Buttigieg endorsed Joe Biden for president Monday night, telling a crowd in Dallas the former Vice President is the right candidate to “bring back dignity to the White House.”

www.cnn.com

 

[samiam5211]

Confirmed. Amy Klobuchar is done and she's endorsing Bernie . . . oops! BIDEN.

Klobuchar is ending her presidential bid, will endorse Biden

Would you have expected her to endorse Bernie?

When obvious things happen, it is not surprising.

 

[TaylorB]

I get it's "conspiracy theory"ish, but not that its silly?

Do you think the DNC is above doing something nefarious to sway the nomination?

Lis Smith has DEEP ties and roots to the DNC, and power struggles within the DNC does not indicate they would not work together to influence the nomination.

Of his top advisers there is only one that has been with him since he ran for mayor. Lis Simth, make no mistake" is heavily entrenched with the DNC. She's married to Eliot Spitzer.

Marcus Switzer is also one of the heads of his staff. He was a staffer on both Obama and Clinton campaigns.

Steven Brokow was another obama staffer.

Chris Meagher is his press secretary, he previously worked for U.S. Rep. Lois Capp, who proudly for her last act before retirement, cast her super delegate vote for Hilary.


His staff is filled with DNC friendlies and people who have worked closely with Biden.


His exiting now opens up the delegates that would have gone to him, to now vote for Biden.


I dont think its very silly at all.

I think Pete's numbers in SC didn't meet his own campaign's internal benchmark for overall viability, and he knew that remaining in the race longer than necessary would help Bernie and hurt Biden. There's an increasingly popular view in the D party that Bernie is either not viable against Trump or would cost Dems congressional majorities, and Pete likely felt his political future would be better served if he wasn't viewed as having contributed to that scenario, if it plays out.

It's not crazy to think the DNC prefers Biden over Bernie, and that people with knowledge of the DNC's thinking could have influenced Pete's timing once he already knew he was likely to withdraw. Or he just intuitively knew how much political capital was at stake with Super Tuesday coming up. Either of those scenarios is much less nefarious -- and far more likely -- than the DNC planting Pete as a candidate with the eventual goal of sabotaging Bernie.

There's just no way they could have known that far in advance how the dynamics of the primary would play out; remember, it wasn't that long ago that Pete was looking almost as viable as Biden. There's no way they knew he'd outlast Booker, Beto, Kamala, Castro, Gillibrand, etc. such that his withdrawal would ever make a difference to Bernie or Biden. I think Pete was just a better-than-expected long shot candidate that fell short in a key demographic. It's not surprising given Pete's campaign messaging that he would support the moderate candidate over an extremely progressive one.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

It's about Joe Biden.

It's about taking energy away from Sanders.

Its about fixing to primaries AGAIN to ensure ANOTHER empty suit that is beholden to corporate america and wall street gets on the top of the Democratic ticket.

I will only counter in saying if this does happen (and no reason why it's not way things are going), it's going to be funny that they're going to use rules Bernie pushed for after 2016. That's why he's arguing that the one with the most delegates under 1991 should be named the nominee. He knows if the vote goes to a second ballot, he's screwed as the superdelegates come into play.