The Impeachment Process Has Officially Begun (1 Viewer)

[Andrus]

By Laura Bassett

After months of internal arguing among Democrats over whether to impeach President Donald Trump, the dam is finally breaking in favor of trying to remove him from office. The Washington Post reported that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi would announce a formal impeachment inquiry on Tuesday, following a bombshell report that Trump illegally asked Ukraine’s government to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden, one of his political opponents. (He essentially admitted to having done so over the weekend.)

“Now that we have the facts, we’re ready,” Pelosi said Tuesday morning at a forum hosted by The Atlantic. At 5 p.m. the same day, she was back with more. "The actions taken to date by the president have seriously violated the constitution, especially when the president says Article Two says I can do whatever I want," referring to the segment of the Constitution that defines the power of the executive branch of the government. Pelosi's message was that checks and balances of those branches are just as central to the Constitution. And one more thing: "Today, I am announcing the House of Representatives is moving forward with an official impeachment inquiry," she said at a conference broadcast on Twitter by the Huffington Post. ...

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[Lapaz]

Its not a good argument to say nothing will gather Republican support for impeachment simply because there isn't public support for this impeachment.
Further, this impeachment is weak. The weakest in history. Congress is not charging any actual crime, any violation of statutory law, or even common law cries - simply a nebulous "abuse of power" and "obstruction of congress."

As far as a direct comparison with Nixon there are a few clear differences.
First, there had not been a politicization of any previous investigation of the President. no nightly news reports of "oh my God, the PResident is a Russian agent" ad nauseam with reports of "this is it" at every turn.
Second. Congress in the Nixon proceedings had a goal of actually drawing in Republican support - making concessions to Republicans and even giving into demands.
Third, Congress during the Nixon Presidency did not try to rush through impeachment. There was a move to treat it not as a political ploy but as an actual serious matter that resulted in overturning the results of an election. So, they actually fought the White house and waited on the evidence before proceeding - and in fact support really mobilized against Nixon once SCOTUS ruled against Nixon on the issue of the tapes.

I think the argument is that Republicans will support the president no matter what he does, so there is no way to ever get bi-partisan support to check his misbehavior.

Who is inferring THAT? Link?
Plenty of people, Republicans included, have explained why they don't think this is impeachable. There is no way there is a lack of explanation on that.

Why is this not impeachable? I’ve heard the Ukrainians got the aid thus no quid pro quo, but this came after Trump was caught. I’ve heard that the Ukrainians say they didn’t feel pressured, yet there are emails saying they didn’t want to get caught up in our politics. I’ve heard that there are no fact witnessss, yet Trump blocks most of them and has admitted to the crime himself as well as his chief of staff. I’ve heard he was interested in fighting corruption, yet never mentioned corruption and conveniently ignores vast corruption unless it can help him personally. I’ve heard Trump met with Zewlinsky, but not in the Oval Office with the pomp and recognition associated.

So tell me what legitimate reasons have Republicans given?

 

[brandon]

Both articles approved by the house.

 

[V Chip]

The Impeachment Process is OVER.

 

[Beach Friends]

The Impeachment Process is OVER.

/thread?

 

[Intensesaint]

Clinton and Trump now have another thing in common

 

[Beach Friends]

And as the House voted, Trump held a rally in Justin Amash's district. I don't know whether that was planned specifically because of the vote, or if it was coincidence. Either way, how can the Democrats hope to win against that man?

 

[BobE]

PLEASE tell me I read this wrong and they're not going to delay it

 

[Intensesaint]

PLEASE tell me I read this wrong and they're not going to delay it

LOL, they are going to delay it. Pretty much guaranteeing Trump will win next year.

 

[Beach Friends]

PLEASE tell me I read this wrong and they're not going to delay it

I wonder what those Democratic Senators who are running for Potus think about that.

 

[samiam5211]

I wonder what those Democratic Senators who are running for Potus think about that.

She’s playing chess and Trump is taking a dump in a tennis court.

 

[Beach Friends]

She’s playing chess and Trump is taking a dump in a tennis court.

What she is doing is showing that the Democrats, who control only the House, can't be trusted with power. They think the POTUS should be impeached, the judicial branch should not review disputes between the executive and legislative branches and now they think they can control the Senate.

Keep it up, Dems. America is watching and taking note.

 

[Intensesaint]

She’s playing chess and Trump is taking a dump in a tennis court.

Classy

 

[efil4]

What she is doing is showing that the Democrats, who control only the House, can't be trusted with power. They think the POTUS should be impeached, the judicial branch should not review disputes between the executive and legislative branches and now they think they can control the Senate.

Keep it up, Dems. America is watching and taking note.

Lol like the Rs in Obama last year, refusing to hear SC appointees?

Take notes indeed. Just be sure you take ALL the notes, or your test will be returned incomplete.

 

[Lapaz]

It’s an interesting idea to hold the articles until the senate agrees to call witnesses, because if they don’t send the articles, then Trump can’t claim to be acquitted. If the senate does get the witnesses, then it will probably make the case against Trump even stronger, so it will probably convince a few more Republicans to vote to remove him. Once a few Republicans vote to remove him, he will lose the partisan claim.

 

[JimEverett]

So only democrats voted for removing a duly elected Republican President? And they aren't making impeachment a political weapon????

 

[ktulu909]

What she is doing is showing that the Democrats, who control only the House, can't be trusted with power.

Honestly,alot of folks feel the exact same way about Trump,so.....

 

[BobE]

 

[JimEverett]

Are those Russian agents influencing our elections?

Lol