Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights per draft opinion (Update: Dobbs opinion official) (1 Viewer)

[LovesMusic7360]

Not long ago Kari Lake proclaimed Arizona's abortion law was a great law and wanted it the law of the state.

Now that she has gotten her way, she is lobbying for it to be repealed.

As I have been saying since 2022, the overwhelming vast majority of women aren't going to vote for the man who proudly boasts that he got rid of Roe V. Wade. Nor are those women going to vote for a forced birther politician.

Turns out, republican belief in "pro life" was all just lies to get votes. Who is surprised? I sure am not.

How many forced birthers will do the same about face?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/ka ... r-BB1ltx3I.

Arizona Republican Senate candidate Kari Lake is actively lobbying state lawmakers to overturn a 160-year-old law she once supported that bans abortion in almost all cases, a source with knowledge of her efforts told CNN.

 

[MT15]

This is TX today. As if people aren’t weird enough when women suffer a miscarriage, now they are stigmatized more and denied basic care by pharmacies. It’s a whole thread explaining the entire event.

 

[MT15]

Yes, and?

To further elaborate: I think there is a big difference between a government discussion of demographics where you expect some clinical language and a judge citing this clinical language while denying women the right to have autonomy over their own bodies and their childbearing.

 

[SaulGoodmanEsq]

Regardless of where it comes from I'm not so sure that it's even a useful commodity, anyway. What is the positive of an increase in the domestic supply of infants? I'd argue overpopulation is more of an issue than lack of infants.

 

[MT15]

Exactly. The idea that a SC Justice would tout an increase in abandoned infants available for adoption as a good thing, as a side benefit to taking away womens’ rights, is simply grotesque.

 

[zztop]

huh I guess once born they're on their own

 

[Optimus Prime]

Abortion banned from the moment the guy says “how you doing?”
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Oklahoma lawmakers on Thursday passed a bill that would ban abortions from the moment of “fertilization,” effectively prohibiting almost all abortions in the state.


If signed into law, it would be the most restrictive antiabortion law in the country and once again change the national landscape for abortion, as millions of abortion patients face the prospect of traveling hundreds of miles to undergo the procedure.

Oklahoma had been a refuge for some women from neighboring Texas, where a six-week ban went into effect last year.
The Supreme Court is expected to issue its decision next month on the fate of Roe v. Wade, the 1973 decision guaranteeing a nationwide right to abortion.

In anticipation of the court overturning Roe, Republicans in dozens of states have rushed to write laws that would severely restrict abortion access or ban the procedure…….

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/05/19/oklahoma-abortion-ban-fertilization/

 

[MT15]

That will ban a few forms of contraception as well as the morning after pill that they often prescribe for rape victims to prevent pregnancy from happening. It will also quite possibly ban IVF, without which a fairly large number of couples will be unable to conceive.

It’s hard to argue something this radical is life-affirming in any way.

 

[Taurus]

That will ban a few forms of contraception as well as the morning after pill that they often prescribe for rape victims to prevent pregnancy from happening. It will also quite possibly ban IVF, without which a fairly large number of couples will be unable to conceive.

It’s hard to argue something this radical is life-affirming in any way.

They have the power to do something they've long promised to do and by God they're going to do it.
This is the same party that was a couple votes away from rescinding the ACA with nothing whatsoever to replace it.
This behavior isn't a bug, it's a feature.

 

[Optimus Prime]

TUSCALOOSA, Ala. (AP) — It was lunch hour at the abortion clinic, so the nurse in the recovery room got her Bible out of her bag in the closet and began to read.

“Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding,” her favorite proverb says, and she returns to it again and again. “He will make your paths straight.”

She believes God led her here, to a job at the West Alabama Women’s Center, tending to patients who’ve just had abortions. “I trust in God,” said Ramona, who asked that her last name not be used because of the volatility America’s abortion debate.

Out in the parking lot, protesters bellowed at patients arriving for appointments, doing battle against what they regard as a grave sin.

The loudest voices in the abortion debate are often characterized along a starkly religious divide, the faithful versus not. But the reality is much more nuanced, both at this abortion clinic and in the nation that surrounds it. The clinic’s staff of 11 — most of them Black, deeply faithful Christian women — have no trouble at all reconciling their work with their religion.


And as the U.S. Supreme Court appears poised to dismantle the constitutional right to an abortion, they draw on their faith that they will somehow continue.

God is on our side, they tell each other. God will keep this clinic open.

Robin Marty, who moved from Minneapolis to Tuscaloosa a couple years ago to help run this clinic, was surprised to hear nurses pray for guidance as the future of abortion grows uncertain.

“That is one of the things that has caused a whiplash for me — I had this stereotype in my head of a Southern religious person,” said Marty. “I just assumed that there was no compatibility between people who are religious and people who support the ability to get an abortion.”

Marty realized she was wrong — most people are.

“We need to have a real conversation about what we describe as Christianity,” said Kendra Cotton, a member of the Black Southern Women’s Collective, a network of Black women organizers, many of them from faith-based groups.

The white evangelical worldview that abortion is murder has consumed the conversation, flattening the understanding of how religion and views on abortion truly intersect, she said……

Religious backers of abortion rights say God's on their side

TUSCALOOSA, Ala. (AP) — It was lunch hour at the abortion clinic, so the nurse in the recovery room got her Bible out of her bag in the closet and began to read. “Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding,” her favorite proverb says, and she returns to it...

apnews.com

 

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wtf

GOP Anti-Abortion Witness: DC Electricity Comes From Burning Fetuses

“The next time you turn on the light, think of the incinerators," Catherine Glenn Foster told Congress while under oath on Wednesday.

www.huffpost.com

At a House Judiciary Committee hearing Wednesday concerning abortion access, an expert witness called by Republicans made a head-scratcher of a claim: Washington, D.C., is literally powered by burning fetuses.

“Bodies [are] thrown in medical waste bins, and in places like Washington, D.C., burned to power the lights of the cities’ homes and streets,” Americans United for Life President Catherine Glenn Foster proclaimed.

“Let that image sink in with you for a moment,” she continued. “The next time you turn on the light, think of the incinerators, think of what we’re doing to ourselves so callously and so numbly.”

 

[SaulGoodmanEsq]

Pretty sure the only thing they burn in power plants to produce energy is coal and gas. Fetuses are neither. Nuclear reactors notwithstanding.

 

[CoolBrees]

Life begins at combustion

 

[MT15]

This is all related. All of it. Putting this in the racism thread too.

 

[MT15]

They just keep getting more and more extreme:

 

[coldseat]

They just keep getting more and more extreme:

It's a sick and twisted way of thinking, but if you believe God preordains everything, then it seems consistent to believe God preordained his mom's rape. Messed up as that is.

 

[MT15]

And, make no mistake, that is very messed up.

 

[Lapaz]

It's a sick and twisted way of thinking, but if you believe God preordains everything, then it seems consistent to believe God preordained his mom's rape. Messed up as that is.

This god is not a nice entity. I suppose if murders, disease, suffering and sin are all pre-ordained, then is the point of praying to change his mind? Also, if god preordained all of that awful stuff, then what’s the devil’s job?

 

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Also, if god preordained all of that awful stuff, then what’s the devil’s job?

being a scapegoat