Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights per draft opinion (Update: Dobbs opinion official) (1 Viewer)

[LovesMusic7360]

Not long ago Kari Lake proclaimed Arizona's abortion law was a great law and wanted it the law of the state.

Now that she has gotten her way, she is lobbying for it to be repealed.

As I have been saying since 2022, the overwhelming vast majority of women aren't going to vote for the man who proudly boasts that he got rid of Roe V. Wade. Nor are those women going to vote for a forced birther politician.

Turns out, republican belief in "pro life" was all just lies to get votes. Who is surprised? I sure am not.

How many forced birthers will do the same about face?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/ka ... r-BB1ltx3I.

Arizona Republican Senate candidate Kari Lake is actively lobbying state lawmakers to overturn a 160-year-old law she once supported that bans abortion in almost all cases, a source with knowledge of her efforts told CNN.

 

[Optimus Prime]

If pro life is such a great stance, why did this wacko change her tune?

someone should ask her

 

[fooferdoggie]

If pro life is such a great stance, why did this wacko change her tune?

Cry a lake needs to go home and make a sandwich.

 

[LovesMusic7360]

Arizona didn’t become a state for 48 more years after this law was passed.

And women didn't have the right to vote until 1920, 56 years after that law was passed.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Hours after Arizona’s supreme court declared on Tuesday that a 160-year-old abortion ban is now enforceable, Republicans in the state took a surprising stance for a party that has historically championed abortion restrictions – they denounced the decision.

“This decision cannot stand,” said Matt Gress, a Republican state representative. “I categorically reject rolling back the clock to a time when slavery was still legal and we could lock up women and doctors because of an abortion.”

First passed when Arizona was still a territory, the ban only permits abortions to save a patient’s life and does not have exceptions for rape or incest.


“Today’s Arizona supreme court decision reinstating an Arizona territorial-era ban on all abortions from more than 150 years ago is disappointing to say the least,” said TJ Shope, a Republican state senator.

“I oppose today’s ruling,” added Kari Lake, a Republican running to represent Arizona in the US Senate and a loyalist of Donald Trump. Lake called on the state legislature to “come up with an immediate commonsense solution that Arizonans can support”.

Since the US supreme court overturned Roe v Wade, leading the GOP to stumble in the 2022 midterms and abortion rights supporters to win a string of ballot measures, including in purple and red states, Republicans have struggled to find a way to talk about abortion without turning off voters. But their response to the ruling on the 1864 ban may mark their fastest and strongest rebuke of abortion bans since Roe fell.

“This is an earthquake that has never been seen in Arizona politics,” said Barrett Marson, a Republican consultant in Arizona, of the decision. “This will shake the ground under every Republican candidate, even those in safe legislative or congressional seats.”

The 1864 ban is not currently in effect, and may not go into effect for weeks due to legal delays. Abortion is currently allowed in Arizona up until 15 weeks of pregnancy.

Some of the criticisms of the Tuesday ruling came from politicians who had previously supported the 1864 ban or cheered the end of Roe v Wade. Lake previously called the ban a “great law”, according to PolitiFact. David Schweikert, an Arizona congressman who is facing one of the most competitive House races in the country this November, said on Tuesday that he does not support the ruling and wants the state legislature to “address this issue immediately”, but in 2022 said the fall of Roe “pleased” him.


The speaker of the Arizona state house and the president of the state senate, who are both Republicans, also released a joint statement saying that they would be “listening to our constituents to determine the best course of action for the legislature”. In contrast, on the day Roe fell, the Republican-controlled state senate released a statement declaring that the 1864 ban was in effect immediately. That statement unleashed confusion and chaos among abortion providers in Arizona, prompting them to stop offering the procedure out of an abundance of caution.

“They are trying to play it both ways. They’re trying to have this illusion that they’re moderate to get votes, because they know that Arizonans do not want a total ban,” said Dr Gabrielle Goodrick, one of the providers who temporarily stopped performing abortions when Roe fell. “This is just ridiculous. Now they’re saying that they oppose it? Yeah, yeah – a little too late.”……..

Arizona Republicans denounce revived 1864 abortion ban in sudden reversal

As the party struggles to talk about abortion, response marks fastest and strongest rebuke of bans since the fall of Roe

www.theguardian.com

 

[MT15]

Just a bunch of BS. They should be ignored and voted out of office. Tools.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Just a bunch of BS. They should be ignored and voted out of office. Tools.

They’re running scared

They somehow underestimated how big a deal this was going to be

Can’t let them get away with the cynical about face

Now that everything you’ve always said you wanted to do regarding abortion (ban it) is a real possibility all of a sudden you don’t want to do that anymore and are also refusing to acknowledge that you ever did

No

That can’t work, and we can’t let that work

 

[fooferdoggie]

Hours after Arizona’s supreme court declared on Tuesday that a 160-year-old abortion ban is now enforceable, Republicans in the state took a surprising stance for a party that has historically championed abortion restrictions – they denounced the decision.

“This decision cannot stand,” said Matt Gress, a Republican state representative. “I categorically reject rolling back the clock to a time when slavery was still legal and we could lock up women and doctors because of an abortion.”

First passed when Arizona was still a territory, the ban only permits abortions to save a patient’s life and does not have exceptions for rape or incest.


“Today’s Arizona supreme court decision reinstating an Arizona territorial-era ban on all abortions from more than 150 years ago is disappointing to say the least,” said TJ Shope, a Republican state senator.

only because it looks bad.

 

[superchuck500]

This whole thing is so funny and so Trump

 

[MT15]

He’s such a liar.

 

[MT15]

They’re all liars. Every last one of them.

 

[Taurus]

They’re all liars. Every last one of them.

Ok, so my extremely woke daughter gives me hard time for using this term, but nothing else quite captures the self-inflicted, ongoing nature of what the GOP's done to itself with this issue. It's their tar baby. The more they mess with it, the worse it gets.

 

[superchuck500]

He’s such a liar.

It always blows me away to see clips of him speaking - literally about 95% of what he says is inaccurate or mischaracterized and about 75% of it is just boldly false. It's wild.

I think he's considered the truth so malleable and is so used to never having accountability for lying that he's just fully free to lie about everything. And his followers continue to believe he's more truthful than anyone else! It's such insanity to observe.

 

[fooferdoggie]

I think he's considered the truth so malleable and is so used to never having accountability for lying that he's just fully free to lie about everything. And his followers continue to believe he's more truthful than anyone else! It's such insanity to observe.

you could use his words to throw a clay pot they are so malleable.

 

[Optimus Prime]

So, the states have the right to do whatever they want, unless they go far then they’ll be straightened out?
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Insisting abortion rights should be left to state governments, Donald Trump nonetheless said the rightwing Arizona supreme court went too far when it ruled on Tuesday that a 160-year-old near-total ban could be enforced.

“Yeah, they did [go too far],” Trump said on Wednesday to reporters at an airport in Atlanta, Georgia. “That’ll be straightened out, and as you know it’s all about states’ rights.”…..

Trump says Arizona supreme court’s abortion ruling will be ‘straightened out’

Ex-president who boasts about Roe’s fall say matter is ‘about states’ rights’ but concedes revived 160-year-old ban goes too far

www.theguardian.com

 

[Optimus Prime]

When the US supreme court overturned Roe v Wade in 2022, Republicans across the country cheered. Freed from Roe’s regulations, GOP lawmakers promptly blanketed the US south and midwest in near-total abortion bans.

But today, after a string of electoral losses, stories of women being denied abortions and polls that confirm abortion bans remain wildly unpopular, the political calculus has changed.

Republicans are now trying to slow down the car whose brakes they cut – and to convince voters that, if the car crashes, they had nothing to do with it anyway.

Nowhere encapsulates the GOP’s backpedal on abortion better than Arizona, whose state supreme court on Tuesday ruled to let an 1864 near-total abortion ban go into effect.

That ban, which outlaws abortion in all cases except to save the life of a woman, was passed before Arizona became a state, before the end of the civil war and before women gained the right to vote.…..

In other words, this ban threatens to become a political nightmare for Republicans come November.

Lake and Trump are caught in the quandary that is now facing Republicans in Arizona and beyond its borders. For 50 years, the GOP became increasingly wedded to the anti-abortion movement, passing restrictions that cut off access to the procedure and littering the courts with lawsuits to overturn Roe.

These restrictions won them votes from anti-abortion advocates, as well as cash from influential advocacy groups. But because Roe stopped many of these restrictions from taking effect, it shielded Republicans from reckoning with the real-world consequences of anti-abortion policies – or with the outrage of voters.

Since Roe was overturned, and those real-world consequences have come into focus, abortion rights-related ballot measures have succeeded in several Republican strongholds, including Kansas and Kentucky.

Lake didn’t say what that “commonsense solution” might be, but other Republicans have tried to take a stab at it. Juan Ciscomani, who represents Arizona in the US House, called the decision no less than “a disaster” and claimed he was a “strong supporter of empowering women to make their own healthcare choices”. He also, in the same statement, said the 15-week ban “protected the rights of women and new life”……

Arizona’s abortion ban is a political nightmare for Republicans in the 2024 election

Republicans are trying to slow down the car whose brakes they cut – and to convince voters that, if it crashes, they had nothing to do with it

www.theguardian.com

 

[bird]

Basically, the Republicans/religionists are the dog that caught the car. As long as Roe was in place they could fund raise and rant and rave about it. Once the SCOTUS dropped Dobbs all bets were off. They are reaping the whirlwind. All the scrambling about, flip-flopping, deflecting and outright lying shows how damn scared they are.

It is funny, Republicans pointed fingers at AOC and Ilhan Omar and Pramila Jayapal and screamed about how extreme and socialist/communist they were while, at the same time radical extremist RWers were put into office. This mess is entirely self-inflicted.

 

[Maxp]

The sad thing is they are still lying. If voters were dumb enough to believe these Republicans with regrets and vote for them, I guarantee these politicians would still vote for outright bans and more.

 

[MT15]

Yeah they’re lying about wanted to put the brakes on. They had a perfect chance in AZ, and wouldn’t do it. Oh, and I just read that Ducey expanded the AZ Supreme Court (he packed it) during his time as governor, which made the recent abomination of a ruling possible.