Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights per draft opinion (Update: Dobbs opinion official)

[Brennan77]

Forgive me for posting this given that I'm not a regular participant.

Exclusive: Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows

“We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled,” Justice Alito writes in an initial majority draft circulated inside the court.

www.politico.com

Read Justice Alito's initial draft abortion opinion which would overturn Roe v. Wade

Read the full 98-page initial draft majority opinion.

www.politico.com

 

[J-DONK]

They were in control of setting the date for this special election.

Imagine having to hold a special election in an off-cycle election year.

 

[LA - L.A.]

And Trump has been strutting his stuff taking full credit for loading the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v Wade.

 

[Optimus Prime]

When you do everything you can to rig an election and still lose, you have a problem. Voters in Ohio told the state’s Republican Party on Tuesday that it has a big problem, and they sent that message to the GOP nationwide.


The outcome is also a major challenge for opponents of abortion. They might come to see the Supreme Court’s decision overturning Roe v. Wade not as the victory they celebrated in 2022 but as the decisive moment when the politics of the issue turned against them.


The combination of hypocrisy and opportunism proved too much for most Ohioans, who defeated the GOP legislature’s referendum proposal that would have made it far more difficult for future electorates to change the state’s Constitution.

Even though the state voted for Donald Trump by eight points in 2020, a majority refused to accept the Republicans’ invitation to throw away its own power.



Issue 1, as the referendum was known, would have raised the margin required to amend the state’s constitution from a simple majority to 60 percent.

Despite the GOP’s claims to the contrary, the measure was clearly designed to head off a constitutional amendment to protect abortion rights on November’s ballot.

Polls show that abortion rights command majority support in Ohio, as they did in other red states such as Kansas and Kentucky. Reaching 60 percent, however, would have been difficult.


But if Issue 1’s defeat was a statement about abortion rights, it was also a harsh judgment against the anti-majoritarian politics that Republicans are practicing in many states they control.

Their methods include highly partisan gerrymanders, efforts to make it harder for some groups to cast ballots (particularly Black and younger voters), and state takeovers of election administration in Democratic cities……

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/08/08/ohio-referendum-abortion-republicans/

 

[Optimus Prime]

And Trump has been strutting his stuff taking full credit for loading the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v Wade.

After all the backlash and rebuke that has fallen (and will continue to fall) on the state and local republicans for making these anti abortion laws it seems that Trump has dodged most of it

The anger doesn't seem to fall on his shoulders for putting justices on SCOTUS who would turn over Roe, which is exactly what he said he would do, yet he's not getting the blame for making this happen

Curious why that is, especially if he is gloating about it (which I haven't seen or read but don't doubt at all)

 

[MT15]

And Rs still don’t get it.

 

[bdb13]

After all the backlash and rebuke that has fallen (and will continue to fall) on the state and local republicans for making these anti abortion laws it seems that Trump has dodged most of it

The anger doesn't seem to fall on his shoulders for putting justices on SCOTUS who would turn over Roe, which is exactly what he said he would do, yet he's not getting the blame for making this happen

Curious why that is, especially if he is gloating about it (which I haven't seen or read but don't doubt at all)

I'm sure that will be a focus of the attention Democrats put on Trump when he becomes the nominee.

 

[MT15]

After all the backlash and rebuke that has fallen (and will continue to fall) on the state and local republicans for making these anti abortion laws it seems that Trump has dodged most of it

The anger doesn't seem to fall on his shoulders for putting justices on SCOTUS who would turn over Roe, which is exactly what he said he would do, yet he's not getting the blame for making this happen

Curious why that is, especially if he is gloating about it (which I haven't seen or read but don't doubt at all)

I think it’s because people realize he has no moral code at all. He doesn’t care about abortion because it doesn’t affect him. If he had to pick, he would probably allow it, as long as allowing it doesn’t affect his popularity with his base. There is no ideology, no belief system. So he isn’t seen as a real threat in this area, because he just doesn’t care. Whereas those religious zealots would allow women to die without batting an eye as long as their ideology is made the law of the land.

 

[Optimus Prime]

In defending themselves against a lawsuit, Texas officials have argued that an “unborn child” may not have rights under the US constitution, putting them in tension with arguments made by the state’s attorney’s general’s office as well as Republican lawmakers to support restrictions to abortion.

A guard at the state prison in the community of Abilene filed the lawsuit in question after she asserted that her superiors barred her from going to the hospital while she experienced intense labor pains and what she suspected were contractions while seven months pregnant and on duty.

The guard – who is named Salia Issa – was finally able to leave to go to the hospital two and a half hours after the pain started. She was rushed into emergency surgery after doctors were unable to find a fetal heartbeat, and she ultimately delivered the baby in a stillbirth. The lawsuit claims that if Issa had been able to get to the hospital sooner, the baby would have survived.

Issa and her husband sued the Texas department of criminal justice and three supervisors, arguing the state caused the death of their child. They seek restitution in medical and funeral costs and for pain and suffering.

The prison agency and the Texas attorney general’s office have argued in defense of the lawsuit that the agency should not be held responsible for the stillbirth and that it is not clear the fetus had rights as a person. Both entities advance those positions despite consistent arguments made in lockstep by the attorney general’s office and Texas legislators that “unborn children” should be recognized as people starting at fertilization...........

Texas questions rights of fetus in prison guard lawsuit despite arguing opposite on abortion

Officials argue ‘unborn child’ may not have rights under US constitution in lawsuit defense over prison guard stillbirth

www.theguardian.com

 

[zztop]

stories like these are just so tragic

 

[zztop]

This nothing new to most of us. Republicans are awful

Maternal care deserts overlap with lack of abortion access, analysis shows

Over 1.7 million of U.S. women of reproductive age live in areas without access to abortion and with no access to maternity care, research shows.

abcnews.go.com

"What we're looking at is that the reality is one of forced parenthood for many people without access to abortion," says Julia Strasser, assistant research professor of health policy and management at George Washington University's Milken Institute School of Public Health. "But then you don't have the support services you need to be able to see someone through a pregnancy and delivery."

There are two main types of risks to pregnancy in places without good access to pregnancy care services, Strasser says. The first is they might have to deliver in an emergency department where that care isn't a core part of services. Second, they may not be able to get enough prenatal and postpartum care, which increases the risk for things like preterm birth, when a baby is born before 37 weeks of pregnancy have been completed, and maternal mortality.

Because of this, people living in maternity care deserts without access to abortion may have to continue a dangerous pregnancy or one they don't want, and may also struggle to find the care they need during that pregnancy and delivery.

 

[GrandAdmiral]

fork all these bastages. I hope they burn in hell for the shirt they do. No God would want his people to suffer the shirt they're putting women AND girls through. fork them all.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

fork all these bastages. I hope they burn in hell for the shirt they do. No God would want his people to suffer the shirt they're putting women AND girls through. fork them all.

A-forking-men. If hell actually exists, it's specifically for butt crevasses like this.

 

[Optimus Prime]

A man who set a fire at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Illinois was sentenced on Tuesday to 10 years in federal prison.

Tyler Massengill has admitted using a homemade explosive to set a fire at the Peoria clinic in January, a few days after the Democratic governor, JB Pritzker, signed a law with additional legal protections for abortion procedures. No one was inside the clinic when the fire happened.

“I feel for the people who have lost their jobs. I’m not trying to play like I am victim at this. I was sincerely hurt,” Massengill, 32, said in court, apparently a reference to his belief that a former girlfriend had an abortion a few years ago.

Prosecutors, however, said the woman told the FBI that wasn’t true.

US district judge James Shadid said people who typically visit the clinic for a variety of services have had to look elsewhere because of extensive damage to the building, WMBD-TV reported.

“And to add to your accomplishments, there’s the striking of fear, stress and inconvenience to thousands of patients and employees from the many other Planned Parenthood facilities who wonder if they are next on the list of misguided people like you,” the judge said.

Shadid went slightly above the sentencing guidelines but below the possible maximum prison term of 20 years............

Man who set fire to Illinois Planned Parenthood sentenced to 10 years

Tyler Massengill admitted to using homemade explosive to set fire in January, after governor signed law with abortion protections

www.theguardian.com

 

[GrandAdmiral]

A man who set a fire at a Planned Parenthood clinic in Illinois was sentenced on Tuesday to 10 years in federal prison.

Tyler Massengill has admitted using a homemade explosive to set a fire at the Peoria clinic in January, a few days after the Democratic governor, JB Pritzker, signed a law with additional legal protections for abortion procedures. No one was inside the clinic when the fire happened.

“I feel for the people who have lost their jobs. I’m not trying to play like I am victim at this. I was sincerely hurt,” Massengill, 32, said in court, apparently a reference to his belief that a former girlfriend had an abortion a few years ago.

Prosecutors, however, said the woman told the FBI that wasn’t true.

US district judge James Shadid said people who typically visit the clinic for a variety of services have had to look elsewhere because of extensive damage to the building, WMBD-TV reported.

“And to add to your accomplishments, there’s the striking of fear, stress and inconvenience to thousands of patients and employees from the many other Planned Parenthood facilities who wonder if they are next on the list of misguided people like you,” the judge said.

Shadid went slightly above the sentencing guidelines but below the possible maximum prison term of 20 years............

Man who set fire to Illinois Planned Parenthood sentenced to 10 years

Tyler Massengill admitted to using homemade explosive to set fire in January, after governor signed law with abortion protections

www.theguardian.com

If it was Texas he'd might've received a key to the city.

 

[MT15]

There was a truly unhinged opinion written yesterday by Judge Ho. It was in favor of outlawing mifepristone-it has no real life consequences because the Supreme Court will take up the case, and there is a stay. It just shows all of us exactly how much disdain these people have for women’s lives.

 

[coldseat]

There was a truly unhinged opinion written yesterday by Judge Ho. It was in favor of outlawing mifepristone-it has no real life consequences because the Supreme Court will take up the case, and there is a stay. It just shows all of us exactly how much disdain these people have for women’s lives.

From the Supreme Court all the way down, conservative right wing judges have made a mockery of the entire concept of Standing just to mandate their right wing beliefs and opinions via judicial fiat. The same people that used to go on insistently about activist judges imposing their preferred social policies via judicial fiat.

 

[Optimus Prime]

……She is a bit worried. But she’s also angry that the options of pregnant people who live in Idaho were snatched away by politicians who appear willing to risk lives like hers in their haphazard quest to ban abortion.

Across Idaho, doctors are leaving, looking for states where politics don’t dictate how they practice medicine.

The consequences of Idaho’s anti-choice laws hit Sandpoint fast and hard, hollowing out medical care for women within months. For years, the town had a maternity ward that delivered as many as 350 babies every year – now it has nothing.

The OB-GYN ward shut down this spring and doctors have been fleeing the state in a steady stream, seeking shelter in places where their work doesn’t put them at risk of criminal charges or big lawsuits.

“Basically, I’m lucky because I have a healthy pregnancy,” says Sanders. “But there are all these other people out there who are going to give birth who aren’t healthy. I don’t think people even think about the little things that can happen that a midwife can’t handle.”

It’s become a gamble, getting pregnant and giving birth in a place that no longer has a maternity unit or any obstetricians. Sandpoint is small, fewer than 10,000 people, but it’s been a medical hub for a rural region of 50,000 in north Idaho, Montana and Washington.

For people like Sanders, pregnancy care in town is no longer an option. This is what happens when a state government that’s been itching to ban abortion enacts some of the most restrictive laws in the country and ensnares all of reproductive health and a good share of routine medical care in its dragnet.

But the women of Sandpoint are clear about one thing they want others to know: this can happen anywhere in the post-Roe United States. Nowhere is as safe as you might believe and the battle won’t stop at state borders…….

Idaho also became the only state in the country to stop tracking maternal mortality rates. Activists say it’s like they don’t want anyone to know how deadly their decisions might be.…..

No OB-GYNs left in town: what came after Idaho’s assault on abortion

In Sandpoint, Idaho, the maternity ward closed down. Within months, medical care for women in the rural community was hollowed out

www.theguardian.com

 

[MT15]

Idaho also became the only state in the country to stop tracking maternal mortality rates. Activists say it’s like they don’t want anyone to know how deadly their decisions might be.…..

For sure they don’t want the people who live there to know how many women will die or be maimed because of their decisions to impose their religious beliefs on people not of their faith.

Already the worst maternal outcomes are in the states with the most restrictions on abortions. I would be willing to bet there have already been deaths because of these laws, they just aren’t being publicized. It’s shocking to me how little women‘s lives mean to these extremists.