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    First thoughts thus far...
    • I really wish Biden would've started on something other than Trump.
    • Either MTG is broke or cheap walking around with a Trump 2020 cap on. She's totally in on trying to be VP.
    • Not only does Mike Johnson have a very punchable face, he just looks very creepy up there. He looks so out of place.
    • Joe is showing energy tonight.
     
    Joe Biden’s seemingly off-the-cuff use of “illegal” to describe people who are undocumented during his State of the Union address drew disappointed reaction from experts who have long argued the term is inaccurate and outdated.

    Responding to heckling from conservative congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene, who demanded Biden mention the name of Laken Riley – a Georgia nursing student who was allegedly killed by a person who is undocumented – Biden held up a button of Riley’s face and said she was an “innocent, young woman who was killed by an illegal”.

    He added: “But how many thousands of people being killed by legals? To the parents, I say, my heart goes out to you, having lost children myself. I understand.”


    Democrats and immigrant rights organizations said Biden’s use of “illegal” as dehumanizing. The Illinois congresswoman Delia Ramirez said she was “disappointed” in Biden’s use of what she called “dehumanizing right wing rhetoric” to describe immigrants. “No human being is illegal,” Ramirez said. Another Illinois representative, Chuy García, added: “As a proud immigrant, I’m extremely disappointed to hear President Biden use the world “illegal”.

    The National Immigrant Justice Center called the term “words [from] anti-immigrant extremists”, adding: “Manipulating a personal tragedy for political gain in this way is dangerous. Conflating immigration status with criminality is racist and dehumanizing.”

    Immigration advocates have long argued that the term “illegals” is an inaccurate term, as entering the US without documents is not a criminal offense. It is also a racially charged term that can promote violence and discrimination, according to the Drop the I-Word campaign, which advocates for media organizations not to use it when describing immigrants.

    The Biden administration itself ordered US immigration enforcement agencies to stop using the terms “illegal alien” and “assimilation” in 2021, guidelines meant to encourage more inclusive language.…..

     
    I didn't get a chance to watch either speech. How did the "diminished leader" angle play after Biden came out fired up?
    Not so well... :hihi: The word of the day in magaverse was "methamphetamines"

    But that's what you get when your rebuttal doesn't actually rebut anything the speech said, because it was written (and probably taped) in advance, and you have a creepy smiling handmaid deliver it from her kitchen, where she belongs.
     
    Not so well... :hihi: The word of the day in magaverse was "methamphetamines"

    But that's what you get when your rebuttal doesn't actually rebut anything the speech said, because it was written (and probably taped) in advance, and you have a creepy smiling handmaid deliver it from her kitchen, where she belongs.
    Yeah, as opposed to Trump’s Adderall. Talk about severe cognitive decline.
     
    Joe Biden’s seemingly off-the-cuff use of “illegal” to describe people who are undocumented during his State of the Union address drew disappointed reaction from experts who have long argued the term is inaccurate and outdated.

    Responding to heckling from conservative congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Greene, who demanded Biden mention the name of Laken Riley – a Georgia nursing student who was allegedly killed by a person who is undocumented – Biden held up a button of Riley’s face and said she was an “innocent, young woman who was killed by an illegal”.

    He added: “But how many thousands of people being killed by legals? To the parents, I say, my heart goes out to you, having lost children myself. I understand.”


    Democrats and immigrant rights organizations said Biden’s use of “illegal” as dehumanizing. The Illinois congresswoman Delia Ramirez said she was “disappointed” in Biden’s use of what she called “dehumanizing right wing rhetoric” to describe immigrants. “No human being is illegal,” Ramirez said. Another Illinois representative, Chuy García, added: “As a proud immigrant, I’m extremely disappointed to hear President Biden use the world “illegal”.

    The National Immigrant Justice Center called the term “words [from] anti-immigrant extremists”, adding: “Manipulating a personal tragedy for political gain in this way is dangerous. Conflating immigration status with criminality is racist and dehumanizing.”

    Immigration advocates have long argued that the term “illegals” is an inaccurate term, as entering the US without documents is not a criminal offense. It is also a racially charged term that can promote violence and discrimination, according to the Drop the I-Word campaign, which advocates for media organizations not to use it when describing immigrants.

    The Biden administration itself ordered US immigration enforcement agencies to stop using the terms “illegal alien” and “assimilation” in 2021, guidelines meant to encourage more inclusive language.…..


    If the guy that murdered her is undocumented, then by killing her he is indeed not only guilty of murder, but also here illegally. Whatever immigration or asylum claim he's made will be rejected. Of course there needs to be due process and court judgements, but I wouldn't get bent out of shape by calling the guy illegal. Especially if the facts of the case are mostly undisputed. I haven't really read up in on the details enough to know.
     
    it goes away when you have paid the loan down to 78%.
    This part isn't always true. In fact in many cases it continues until the owner requests that it be removed -- meaning one could be well beyond the equity threshold and still paying it. PMI is wasted money that the lenders have learned they can tweak and abuse to make more profit.
     
    our pets have indoctrinated us lol
    :ROFLMAO:
    It’s funny, but imagine being a person and being expected to talk that way to show you’re not a threat to the men in the church. That you’re a good, submissive woman to your husband.
     
    all you had to do is watch 19 Kids and Counting to see it I action.
    Never watched it nor the Kate and what’s his name plus 8. Not interested in the least.

    Although I will say the 19 kids and counting is part of the “Quiverful” movement, iirc.
     
    Evidently Britt repeatedly tells a story about a woman who was sex trafficked in Mexico from 2004-2008 as an example of the horrors that immigrants bring to the US under Biden. Lying is a requirement to be in the GOP. Not just normal spin, outright brazen lying.

     
    And Britt’s spokesperson’s response is garbage.

     

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