Special Counsel January 6 conspiracy case against Trump in DC (Update: Trial set for March 4, 2024) (3 Viewers)

[superchuck500]

Trump and Eastman appear to be preparing to be indicted. It’s probably better to have a new, separate thread for this case.

 

[Booker]

Either one works for me. Navarro should be in jail, too.

Following up, co-conspirator #6 is still the only one not confirmed, but Boris Epshtyen does look like the guy.

From the indictment:

Co-conspirator 6, a political consultant who helped implement a plan to submit fraudulent slates of presidential electors to obstruct the certification proceeding.

And from Wikipedia:

On January 2, Trump and two of his attorneys, Rudy Giuliani and John Eastman, held a conference call with some 300 Republican state legislators in battleground states Biden won to provide them with false allegations of widespread voting fraud they might use to convene special sessions of their legislatures to rescind Biden's winning slates of electors and replace them with slates of Trump electors for Pence to certify....Epshteyn worked with Giuliani in December 2020 to persuade Republican officials in seven states to prepare certificates of ascertainment for slates of "alternate electors" loyal to Trump, which would be presented to Pence for certification.

ETA: Mike Roman seems to think he's #6...

 

[Booker]

The indictment identifies, but does not charge or name, six people as being among Mr. Trump’s accused co-conspirators. One question this raises is whether Mr. Smith is giving them one last opportunity to cooperate with prosecutors, while holding out the option of later bringing charges against them in a superseding indictment that could also include additional evidence, as he recently did in the documents case.



— Charlie Savage

Regarding charging additional parties, I do wonder if that might happen or if it was intentional that there were limited co-conspirators referenced and no one else was charged, so that the focus remains purely on Trump.

Ted Cruz, for example, was all in on the plan to push back certification for 10 days to allow time to reject electoral votes from "contested" states. But if they expanded the charges to include he and other politicians involved it would just muddy everything up and increase the accusations that it's a political witch hunt.

 

[UriUT]

Regarding charging additional parties, I do wonder if that might happen or if it was intentional that there were limited co-conspirators referenced and no one else was charged, so that the focus remains purely on Trump.

Ted Cruz, for example, was all in on the plan to push back certification for 10 days to allow time to reject electoral votes from "contested" states. But if they expanded the charges to include he and other politicians involved it would just muddy everything up and increase the accusations that it's a political witch hunt.

I heard some commentaries that this may be because smith doesn't want to bog down the trump charges.

 

[UriUT]

Aaron Rupar (@aaron.rupar) on Threads

here's how Fox Business is covering the Trump indictment

www.threads.net

Yeah...we're talking about practice????

 

[superchuck500]

Trump Campaign Worried There Might Not Be Enough Indictments To Meet All Fundraising Goals

PALM BEACH, FL—Though new charges are expected soon from both special counsel Jack Smith and a Georgia investigation of the former president, the Trump campaign was said to be privately worried Monday that there still might not be enough indictments to meet all their fundraising targets...

www.theonion.com

 

[Optimus Prime]

So how exactly had Donald Trump avoided a mugshot?

It was said that “he’s so famous everyone knows who he is and what he looks like”

Celebrities get arrested and there’s a mugshot

I always thought that when you are arrested and charged there’s always fingerprints and a mugshot

Guess not

And some celebrities look very different without makeup, maybe Trump does also without that orange tan

 

[MT15]

So how exactly had Donald Trump avoided a mugshot?

It was said that “he’s so famous everyone knows who he is and what he looks like”

Celebrities get arrested and there’s a mugshot

I always thought that when you are arrested and charged there’s always fingerprints and a mugshot

Guess not

And some celebrities look very different without makeup, maybe Trump does also without that orange tan

2-tiered justice system, it’s just not the way Rs are saying it. He’s been given some deference. And I’m okay with small stuff, as long as it doesn’t extend to special stays and delays being allowed.

 

[UriUT]

So how exactly had Donald Trump avoided a mugshot?

It was said that “he’s so famous everyone knows who he is and what he looks like”

Celebrities get arrested and there’s a mugshot

I always thought that when you are arrested and charged there’s always fingerprints and a mugshot

Guess not

And some celebrities look very different without makeup, maybe Trump does also without that orange tan

Ha! I saw this earlier.

 

[MT15]

Mike Pence is at least being honest. That’s more than most Rs:

 

[superchuck500]

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Mike Pence is at least being honest. That’s more than most Rs:

Pfft. He says he don't know if the Government has enough to meet the standard for criminal charges and then goes on say that Trump asked him to reject the electoral votes. Had Pence done so, it would have overturned the will of the people. The ask is enough!

 

[superchuck500]

Mike Pence is at least being honest. That’s more than most Rs:

Pence is the good guy in the indictment - seems like maybe he’s finally embracing the role. He’s DOA if he doesn’t, he might as well try to make hay with it.

 

[MT15]

He’s DOA if he doesn’t, he might as well try to make hay with it.

Yes, most definitely. Actually all the R candidates are DOA if they don’t separate from Trump. Trump acolytes are never going to vote for any of them, and normal people are repulsed by their support of Trump.

 

[J-DONK]

Yes, most definitely. Actually all the R candidates are DOA if they don’t separate from Trump. Trump acolytes are never going to vote for any of them, and normal people are repulsed by their support of Trump.

I don't think that's going to happen. He gets more popular with the base every indictment. What I'm looking forward to is a scenario of Trump, having won the Republican primary, trying to run for president from jail. The party of law, and order running a convicted felon as it's candidate. The schadenfreude the left would get to experience in that moment.

 

[MT15]

I don't think that's going to happen. He gets more popular with the base every indictment. What I'm looking forward to is a scenario of Trump, having won the Republican primary, trying to run for president from jail. The party of law, and order running a convicted felon as it's candidate. The schadenfreude the left would get to experience in that moment.

Well, he would never be in jail that quickly because you know he will appeal til the cows come home.

I don’t think any of the R candidates who are supporting Trump have a snowball’s chance to win the nomination. However, I do think a sane candidate who distances himself from Trump does have a snowball’s chance. It’s at least better than the ones who still support Trump.

I don’t know if it’s true, but I read that the % of population who self-identifies as R is down to 28%, and if slightly less than half support Trump, that’s only 14% of the population. There is a lane for a sane R who will tell the truth about Trump. A tiny little bike lane, but it’s there. There’s zero chance for the Trump sycophants, IMO.

 

[fooferdoggie]

its because once his fly died he lost what little balls he had.

 

[Lapaz]

I don't think that's going to happen. He gets more popular with the base every indictment. What I'm looking forward to is a scenario of Trump, having won the Republican primary, trying to run for president from jail. The party of law, and order running a convicted felon as it's candidate. The schadenfreude the left would get to experience in that moment.

Not that Trump is Hitler, but Hitler went to jail for an attempted coup in 1924 for 8 months. He was sentenced to 5 years. He wrote Mein Kemp in jail, and organized the nazi party over the following 4 years, before having some electoral success in 1930, and then taking control in 1933. Fortunately, Trump is too old, but is there an heir apparent to Trumpism? Is the pandora's box open and will history repeat itself? If the economy were to crash, it appears that there are enough deplorables to make us vulnerable to another Trump.

 

[MT15]