Special Counsel January 6 conspiracy case against Trump in DC (Update: Trial set for March 4, 2024) (4 Viewers)

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    MT15 said:
    This is a terrible look for Tim Scott. Just as bad as Tom Cotton, Cruz, Jordan, Comer, etc. He’s putting himself with the unserious wing of the party:

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    Everyone on the planet knows that failed coups end in prison, or your head.

    We should start a betting pool on which of the coconspirators flips.
     
    MT15 said:
    This is a terrible look for Tim Scott. Just as bad as Tom Cotton, Cruz, Jordan, Comer, etc. He’s putting himself with the unserious wing of the party:

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    He's just waiting to swoop in if Trump fails and falls out of the campaign in the primaries... that or he's vying to be Trump's running mate.
     
    So I’m seeing a whole lot of “they can’t indict him for lying-First Amendment”. Which is clearly stated in the indictment. He’s not being indicted for lying. If all he did was tell lies to the public, he wouldn’t have been indicted. So any R or RWNJ media member who says Trump is being denied his First Amendment rights is gaslighting you.

     
    Also, any R or RWNJ media member who says this is a weaponization of DOJ by Democrats is also gaslighting. Every bit of evidence, every bit of it, in the indictment comes from Republicans. Many of them people hired or appointed by Trump himself.

    It’s time to grow up, Trump supporters. Time to face the music. You’ve supported a very bad person, who absolutely knew he lost an election, but tried to overturn it illegally. He’s going to be held accountable. He shouldn’t ever hold any position of public trust ever again.

    He’s not the same as every other politician. And, no, Biden isn’t the same as Trump.

    The End.
     
    MT15 said:
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    With U.S. District Judge Tanya S. Chutkan as the trial judge overseeing his case in Washington, Donald Trump’s legal troubles in the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack come near full circle.


    Trump’s federal criminal indictment on charges of attempting to subvert the results of the 2020 presidential election was randomly assigned Tuesday to Chutkan, 61, who nearly two years ago became one of the first federal judges in D.C. to reject the former president’s efforts to use executive privilege to withhold White House communications from Jan. 6 investigators, in that instance from the House select committee investigating the Capitol riot.

    In her Trump documents opinion on Nov. 9, 2021, Chutkan ruled that Congress had a strong public interest in obtaining White House communications and other records that could shed light on the violent attack by a mob of Trump supporters who injured dozens of police, ransacked offices and forced the evacuation of lawmakers meeting to confirm the results of the 2020 election.

    Chutkan noted that President Biden had waived executive privilege, overcoming his predecessor’s attempt to invoke the confidentiality of presidential communications, a ruling affirmed by a federal appeals court and left undisturbed by the U.S. Supreme Court.


    “At bottom, this is a dispute between a former and incumbent President,” Chutkan wrote. “And the Supreme Court has already made clear that in such circumstances, the incumbent’s view is accorded greater weight.”…….

     
    Optimus Prime said:
    With U.S. District Judge Tanya S. Chutkan as the trial judge overseeing his case in Washington, Donald Trump’s legal troubles in the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack come near full circle.


    Trump’s federal criminal indictment on charges of attempting to subvert the results of the 2020 presidential election was randomly assigned Tuesday to Chutkan, 61, who nearly two years ago became one of the first federal judges in D.C. to reject the former president’s efforts to use executive privilege to withhold White House communications from Jan. 6 investigators, in that instance from the House select committee investigating the Capitol riot.

    In her Trump documents opinion on Nov. 9, 2021, Chutkan ruled that Congress had a strong public interest in obtaining White House communications and other records that could shed light on the violent attack by a mob of Trump supporters who injured dozens of police, ransacked offices and forced the evacuation of lawmakers meeting to confirm the results of the 2020 election.

    Chutkan noted that President Biden had waived executive privilege, overcoming his predecessor’s attempt to invoke the confidentiality of presidential communications, a ruling affirmed by a federal appeals court and left undisturbed by the U.S. Supreme Court.


    “At bottom, this is a dispute between a former and incumbent President,” Chutkan wrote. “And the Supreme Court has already made clear that in such circumstances, the incumbent’s view is accorded greater weight.”…….

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    And there’s a lot of grief about trump facing charges before a DC jury. It’s in the Constitution.

     
    MT15 said:
    Also, any R or RWNJ media member who says this is a weaponization of DOJ by Democrats is also gaslighting. Every bit of evidence, every bit of it, in the indictment comes from Republicans. Many of them people hired or appointed by Trump himself.

    It’s time to grow up, Trump supporters. Time to face the music. You’ve supported a very bad person, who absolutely knew he lost an election, but tried to overturn it illegally. He’s going to be held accountable. He shouldn’t ever hold any position of public trust ever again.

    He’s not the same as every other politician. And, no, Biden isn’t the same as Trump.

    The End.
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    Um..the indictment stated that trump used the DOJ to stage this attempted coup? It is weaponization of the DOJ. It's just that these r are doing it. Just like the election was stolen? Ummm...trump tried to steal it. Two tier justice system....trump has the utmost discretion from the DOJ because of who he is and how he's gas lighting. Every defendant that were charged with similar offenses were denied bail and had a speedy trial. All projections.
     
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    superchuck500 said:
    Yeah I’ll never even consider voting for Tim Scott, ever, for anything.
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    It's increasingly clear that the number of Rs that won't subvert the rule of law and the constitution can be counted with the digits on my hands. Romney and Liz?
     
    MT15 said:
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    This is one of my questions about the conspirators.
    The indictment identifies, but does not charge or name, six people as being among Mr. Trump’s accused co-conspirators. One question this raises is whether Mr. Smith is giving them one last opportunity to cooperate with prosecutors, while holding out the option of later bringing charges against them in a superseding indictment that could also include additional evidence, as he recently did in the documents case.



    — Charlie Savage
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    And when savage posted the margins Biden won in those swing states, I had PTSD and am hyperventilating that we may be in the same boat in 2 years. A twice impeached, thrice indicted, and lost a civil suit that stated he raped. He can possibly be president. /facepalm

    Taking from the Biden thread, and in the Allen Iverson/ Ted lasso voice: we re talking about Hunter Biden????
     
    Conspiracies often involve spoken elements - it’s the action (acts in furtherance of the conspiracy’s criminal objective) that cement the crime. The spoken parts are evidence of conspiracy and its participants - they are not the crime itself.

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