Ruth Bader Ginsburg has passed (Replaced by Amy Coney Barrett)(Now Abortion Discussion) (1 Viewer)

[GrandAdmiral]

Ugh... breaking news I DID NOT want to see.

ETA: Reported on CNN.

 

[Taurus]

Regardless of ones political and economic stance, taking a life is a no no. Everyone has a right to life. What you do with your life after that is on you. Everyone deserves a chance in the race. No one can guarantee you the race will be easy or fair.

The MIBs will be along shortly for your kidney.

 

[MT15]

They are definitely not pro-life, and pro-birth doesn’t quite cover it either. They are pro forced birth.
They want the government to force women to give birth. In 2019, 760 some women died from pregnancy and/or childbirth. We had a woman die in my hospital just last year.

Their hypocrisy knows no bounds:

 

[MT15]

Regardless of ones political and economic stance, taking a life is a no no. Everyone has a right to life. What you do with your life after that is on you. Everyone deserves a chance in the race. No one can guarantee you the race will be easy or fair.

If the tiny clump of cells actually had a chance to survive without being supported by an actual living breathing person with real actual rights, you would have a point. As it is, you are just saying that women don’t deserve to have their own lives and make their own decisions about their own bodies.

Duly noted that you will be supporting actual vaccine mandates, instead of the non-mandates that Biden is proposing which give everyone a choice.

 

[MT15]

Supporting a woman’s right to have control of her own body is actually the only real conservative position.

 

[Farb]

I have always looked at it this way.
I compare an abortion to pulling the life support plug on someone. Why is it ok to end someone's life in one instance but not the other? neither one can live without support.

It is only temporary. In a few months, the life will be fully able to be viable on its own. That is the key difference.

Why shouldn't a DR be able to determine if they pull the plugs while a person is in surgery and under anesthesia, especially if they are incubated and heavily sedated?

 

[Farb]

When do you consider life to begin?

at conception.

 

[Farb]

If the tiny clump of cells actually had a chance to survive without being supported by an actual living breathing person with real actual rights, you would have a point. As it is, you are just saying that women don’t deserve to have their own lives and make their own decisions about their own bodies.

Duly noted that you will be supporting actual vaccine mandates, instead of the non-mandates that Biden is proposing which give everyone a choice.

You might want to reword this, as it sounds very transphobic.

That 'clump of cells' will be viable in a few months. That is the way biology works. There is a 100% full proof way to not have to destroy a life is to not get pregnant. Several ways to accomplish that but it does take self discipline.

I am not following the logic train about vaccine mandates. Can you explain wy?

 

[Farb]

Supporting a woman’s right to have control of her own body is actually the only real conservative position.

She does up until there is another life and body in the picture. Then it is just not about 'her' body.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

at conception.

Which is a religious stance, correct?

 

[cuddlemonkey]

You might want to reword this, as it sounds very transphobic.

That 'clump of cells' will be viable in a few months. That is the way biology works. There is a 100% full proof way to not have to destroy a life is to not get pregnant. Several ways to accomplish that but it does take self discipline.

I am not following the logic train about vaccine mandates. Can you explain wy?

Do you support abortions until viability, then?

 

[SystemShock]

They are definitely not pro-life, and pro-birth doesn’t quite cover it either. They are pro forced birth.

They are evangelicals.

 

[SystemShock]

I am not following the logic train about vaccine mandates. Can you explain why?

Do you not know what a woman has to go through during pregnancy, delivery, post-partum?

If you are going to mandate a woman goes through all of what a woman has to go through: all of those medical procedures, injections and pain - not to mention the financial burden of the pregnancy and the support of a child for 2 decades - in the name of the sanctity of life, you certainly are in favor of mandating people to get a vaccine in the name of the sanctity of life.

 

[brandon]

It is only temporary. In a few months, the life will be fully able to be viable on its own. That is the key difference.

The Mississippi law makes no exceptions for viability (or lack thereof).

 

[insidejob]

Do you not know what a woman has to go through during pregnancy, delivery, post-partum?

Something tells me he doesn't care.

 

[Farb]

Do you support abortions until viability, then?

Legally, I think they will move the stance of viability unfortunately because the SCOTUS has become a joke of itself.

Personally, no, I don't. And yes, it is a religious stance.

 

[Farb]

Do you not know what a woman has to go through during pregnancy, delivery, post-partum?

If you are going to mandate a woman goes through all of what a woman has to go through: all of those medical procedures, injections and pain - not to mention the financial burden of the pregnancy and the support of a child for 2 decades - in the name of the sanctity of life, you certainly are in favor of mandating people to get a vaccine in the name of the sanctity of life.

You mean what every animal has gone through since we crawled out of a swamp? Yeah, I was married to a pregnant woman. You?

The mother and father mandated that when they had sex. Do you know what the end result of sex is? It hasn't changed and it is the same for every mammal on the planet. If you can't afford to have a baby, then don't have sex. If you need to have sex, be careful but remember, life tends to find a way. Unless you crush the skull in the womb.

What you do with you life is on you. I just think you should have the chance to live that life.
Don't want/cant to support the child, there are other options besides killing it.

If that child grows up and doesn't want a vaccine or a surgery to remove a ruptured appendix, cool. That is on them. It is their decision.

 

[samiam5211]

You mean what every animal has gone through since we crawled out of a swamp? Yeah, I was married to a pregnant woman. You?

The mother and father mandated that when they had sex. Do you know what the end result of sex is? It hasn't changed and it is the same for every mammal on the planet. If you can't afford to have a baby, then don't have sex. If you need to have sex, be careful but remember, life tends to find a way. Unless you crush the skull in the womb.

What you do with you life is on you. I just think you should have the chance to live that life.
Don't want/cant to support the child, there are other options besides killing it.

If that child grows up and doesn't want a vaccine or a surgery to remove a ruptured appendix, cool. That is on them. It is their decision.

You don't want to support their children either. That won't stop them from being born and needing support though.

You are not pro life, you are full of shirt.

 

[Farb]

You don't want to support their children either. That won't stop them from being born and needing support though.

You are not pro life, you are full of shirt.

Why would I need to support someone else's children?