Ruth Bader Ginsburg has passed (Replaced by Amy Coney Barrett)(Now Abortion Discussion) (1 Viewer)

[GrandAdmiral]

Ugh... breaking news I DID NOT want to see.

ETA: Reported on CNN.

 

[SamAndreas]

I don’t hold much hope for her. Her speech is just CYA, in my opinion. She had zero difficulty accepting a nomination that broke all precedents in that it was rushed through during the voting of a presidential election. Nor did she hesitate to attend a super spreader event at the WH long before there were vaccines. I really do hope I’m wrong about her, but I have a hard time being that optimistic right now.

I'm optimistic enough that when I was young I sailed off to go crab fishing on the Bearing Sea during winter.

“When in danger or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout.” -- The Caine Mutiny

Which is to say optimism has got nothing to lose.

 

[JRad]

Oh, there is a misunderstanding. I am 100% behind making Christian beliefs into law. I am fan of western civilization.

Keep this quote handy for every occasion you say THE LEFT wants to push their beliefs on everyone else.

 

[brandon]

Do they not have free choice to not have sex?

So far, you have made solid arguments for exceptions for viability, and now rape and incest.

Keep it up, and you’re gonna get your conservative extremist card revoked.

 

[Farb]

Keep this quote handy for every occasion you say THE LEFT wants to push their beliefs on everyone else.

They do, do they not? I just want to push my beliefs instead. Is there something wrong with that?

 

[Farb]

No, so you are ok with supporting the ones who break the law, but the law abiding ones can starve for all you care?

This board has gone 0 days since a false equivalency.

I am also a big fan of the death penalty and a quicker one at that. I am also a big fan of charity, I try and do a lot of it through my parish and an organization I am active in, if that helps you process it.

 

[Optimus Prime]

They do, do they not? I just want to push my beliefs instead. Is there something wrong with that?

If one side believes they should be able to live their lives in peace and equality and another doesn’t want that then yes there is a problem with that

 

[Farb]

Do you not have free choice to keep your nose out of their business?

I do but I chose not too. Just like the vaccine thing you all like to compare this too

 

[Optimus Prime]

This board has gone 0 days since a false equivalency.

Any day you make a post this is a true statement

 

[Farb]

So you stand for everything the Constitution was designed to prevent.

Your opinion, I believe I stand for what the constitution actually means. Big fan of the constitution are you?
Can you show me where it gives rights for abortion or even gay marriage? I will wait.

 

[Farb]

No, I meant that Jesus himself is telling you why you should support other people's children.

You take welcoming to mean support? Ok, the words touch us all in a different way. I think you are wrong but if the holy spirit translates that for you, then who I am I to judge.
How many others kids have you supported?

 

[Farb]

Any day you make a post this is a true statement

Zing!

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Your opinion, I believe I stand for what the constitution actually means. Big fan of the constitution are you?
Can you show me where it gives rights for abortion or even gay marriage? I will wait.

Are you saying that this is open for interpretation:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

You want to codify your religious views into law. That means you want Congress to make laws forcing your religious views onto other people. It is not an opinion. It is a fact that you are in direct opposition to the U. S. Constitution.

If a group of Muslims wanted to pass laws in this country to ban the production, sale, and consumption of alcohol due to their religious beliefs, would you be ok with that or would you think that they should not force their religious views onto others?

 

[CoolBrees]

@Farb

You say you want your religion to be the law of the land.

I am curious what parts that aren’t already included that would you like to add? Sacrament? Mandated prayer?

And if you are speaking of abortion laws and gay marriage, while chest pounding that you are a Constitutionalist? Well I think you started reading the Bill of Rights at the 2A and missed the first - the most important one- that explicitly states the Gov will make no laws establishing or preventing the practice of personal religious beliefs.

So you can say you want the Government to install Sharia Law for Christians. You can say you believe in the death penalty and be anti-choice. You can even turn around and say you believe in the Constitution.

Just know that you are either full throatily professing your total hypocrisy or completely unaware of the double standard you are so proud of. Either isn’t a great look on you.

 

[SamAndreas]

I do but I chose not too. Just like the vaccine thing you all like to compare this too

There goes your false equivalency counting thing again.

I haven't compared this to the vaccine thing, and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't like to try. It would be like comparing gophers to butterflies.

 

[Farb]

Are you saying that this is open for interpretation:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

You want to codify your religious views into law. That means you want Congress to make laws forcing your religious views onto other people. It is not an opinion. It is a fact that you are in direct opposition to the U. S. Constitution.

If a group of Muslims wanted to pass laws in this country to ban the production, sale, and consumption of alcohol due to their religious beliefs, would you be ok with that or would you think that they should not force their religious views onto others?

Have they not already? Thou shall not kill is codified in our law. Thou shall not steal is codified in our law. Adultery, although never prosecuted is codified.
If that is not up for interpretation, then #1 and #2 should not be either but I have a hunch you disagree.

If a group of Muslims can elect enough folks to pass the laws, then not much I can do about it. I would be against it and would be very vocal of my opposition just as I would have been vocal and against prohibitions in the early 1920s.

 

[Farb]

@Farb

You say you want your religion to be the law of the land.

I am curious what parts that aren’t already included that would you like to add? Sacrament? Mandated prayer?

And if you are speaking of abortion laws and gay marriage, while chest pounding that you are a Constitutionalist? Well I think you started reading the Bill of Rights at the 2A and missed the first - the most important one- that explicitly states the Gov will make no laws establishing or preventing the practice of personal religious beliefs.

So you can say you want the Government to install Sharia Law for Christians. You can say you believe in the death penalty and be anti-choice. You can even turn around and say you believe in the Constitution.

Just know that you are either full throatily professing your total hypocrisy or completely unaware of the double standard you are so proud of. Either isn’t a great look on you.

To be fair, I don't want the government in any part of my life, including my religion but that is not an option any longer. The alt-left wants big government to run every aspect of your life and that is the world we live in. If I have to live in that world, then I want the state to fit my views, just like you want the state to fit your views. Not sure why this is hard for you all to understand. If you push on side, I will push on the other side. It is called democracy and maybe we can meet in the middle.
You can call my a hypocrite but I don't see it so obviously, I disagree completely.

 

[Farb]

There goes your false equivalency counting thing again.

I haven't compared this to the vaccine thing, and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't like to try. It would be like comparing gophers to butterflies.

I agree with you 100%. They are not comparable because they are vastly different!
See, you and I becoming fast friends!

 

[CoolBrees]

@Farb -

What rights have the “alt-left” taken from you? None?

Ok…

What laws have been proposed maybe?
None?

So….

Who is the alt left? Let’s start there. Can you help me out with who that is?