I had read this before, but just found it again. This is in response to Farb’s assertion that women have no constitutional right to make their own decisions about their bodies.
It would effect 3 of yall. Remember, you ending a life and I assume from discussing other topics with you, you and your wife would have a valid reason, but it is not just you two that are effected, there is a 3rd life. There is no moral code put upon you unless you are in favor of murder, then yes, a moral code has been thrust upon you.I view it as akin to the axiom "the government closest to the people serves the people best." In my view it's not the role of others to impose their moral code and supersede the autonomy of.. let's say my wife and I.. to make a decision that's consequential only to the two of us.
Higher brain function and the fetus' ability to sense pain. Prior to that I view the fetus as akin to a brain dead individual in a vegetative state.
Interesting point, but if it makes you feel better, I don't and didn't mean 'you' as in @MT15 only care about votes, I meant your side of the argument. I also think you can figure out who gets ruffled by reading our response..one is a very clever, witty and charming joke, the other is just more of a personal attack.You took a shot at me, saying I only care about humans who can vote. So I took a shot at you, don’t like it, then stop doing it. You say you don’t mind, but your responses say different.
Now to debunk your strange ideas about who supports a woman’s right to make her own decisions about her own healthcare and her own body. This chart is from the Pew report (2021) that I linked above:
You still haven’t answered my question about why your religious beliefs get to be imposed on everyone and how is that different than Sharia Law?
And the church of Satan, they are pro-choice allies.There is hope for Texan women...
In an interesting turn of events, today the Mexican Supreme Court unanimously declared unconstitutional a law in the State of Coahuila - which happens to border Texas - that penalized abortion, practically making abortion a right to all women in MX.
Yeah, I don't see it holding up once it's challenged. But I do agree it will be close.This law will not get by SCOTUS unless they are willing to overturn 50 years of precedent and the basic constitutional rights of women. With this court, stacked by radicals, it’s going to be close.
This is why this is my least favorite topic to discuss. There's such a large gap in between what we each believe that I don't believe it can be bridged. You believe it's murder absolutely and that's your right and I can't really formulate anything to tell you that you're wrong. I strongly don't believe it's murder if the abortion is performed within a reasonable time frame following conception (reasonable subject to debate of course, but I would define it I think with the parameters from my last post), and while I'm open to hearing what someone has to say and willing to change my mind, I haven't ever heard anything that I found particularly compelling.It would effect 3 of yall. Remember, you ending a life and I assume from discussing other topics with you, you and your wife would have a valid reason, but it is not just you two that are effected, there is a 3rd life. There is no moral code put upon you unless you are in favor of murder, then yes, a moral code has been thrust upon you.
So you would support pulling the plug on an individual that is in a vegetative state but there is no doubt that with in 9 months at the most, this brain dead vegetable will be awake and be a fully functioning human with an entire life to live? No, you wouldn't.
Yeah, I don't see it holding up once it's challenged. But I do agree it will be close.