Russia offered bounties to kill american troops. (2 Viewers)

[The moose]

Russia Secretly Offered Afghan Militants Bounties to Kill U.S. Troops, Intelligence Says (Published 2020)

The Trump administration has been deliberating for months about what to do about a stunning intelligence assessment.

www.nytimes.com

An amazing read.

Trump was told about this in March. Then tries to get Russia back into the g8.

The timing is just plain horrible.

 

[MT15]

This is just whataboutism. Just “look over here” and not at the cowardice and indifference displayed by Trump.

 

[SaintForLife]

I guess when Trump said he could shoot someone on a street in broad daylight and he'd still have supporters has turned out to be the only truthful things he's said in the last 4 years.

Yeah why would anyone want to question the Democrats and the media's narrative on Russia right? The fact that people still cling to this Tom Clancy like conspiracy theory despite every single bombshell fizzling out after closer examination is hilarious.

 

[MT15]

Irony just might have finally succumbed.

 

[SaintForLife]

This is just whataboutism. Just “look over here” and not at the cowardice and indifference displayed by Trump.

I guess it's easier to claim whataboutism to try to discredit someone's position rather than try to refuting their argument.

Do you think there is any legitimate reason why we should still be in Afghanistan after 19 years?

 

[cuddlemonkey]

I guess it's easier to claim whataboutism to try to discredit someone's position rather than try to refuting their argument.

Do you think there is any legitimate reason why we should still be in Afghanistan after 19 years?

More whataboutism. This discussion isn't about why we have troops in Afghanistan. It's about specific allegations regarding US Intelligence having information that pertains to a foreign government offering bounties on American (and UK) troops.

 

[SaintForLife]

More whataboutism. This discussion isn't about why we have troops in Afghanistan. It's about specific allegations regarding US Intelligence having information that pertains to a foreign government offering bounties on American (and UK) troops.

Oh so in a thread about supposed bounties in Afghanistan we shouldn't discuss why we are still in Afghanistan after 19 years?

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Oh so in a thread about supposed bounties in Afghanistan we shouldn't discuss why we are still in Afghanistan after 19 years?

Yes. This is a thread about a specific thing that is independent of how long we have had troops in the country. Any attempt to change the topic in order to deflect is whataboutism.

 

[MT15]

It’s all he has left and he will go down on that ship, lol.

 

[Ayo]

Oh so in a thread about supposed bounties in Afghanistan we shouldn't discuss why we are still in Afghanistan after 19 years?

did you know that 11.84% of Afghanistan is arable?

 

[MT15]

I guess it's easier to claim whataboutism to try to discredit someone's position rather than try to refuting their argument.

Do you think there is any legitimate reason why we should still be in Afghanistan after 19 years?

You don’t refute a non-sequitur. You just point it out.

 

[MT15]

So, this is weird.

 

[Eeyore]

Is anybody surprised?

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www.militarytimes.com

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www.reuters.com

Did nothing

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www.militarytimes.com

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www.nytimes.com

Sent troops to defend the perpetrators of 9/11

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www.nytimes.com

Using military funds to support his resort

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www.nytimes.com

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Mar a lago buddies running the VA

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Wanted to run his wall through a veteran's cemetery.

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apnews.com

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www.latimes.com

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www.military.com

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www.nytimes.com

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www.marinecorpstimes.com

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www.independent.co.uk

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www.militarytimes.com

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www.independent.co.uk

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www.newsweek.com

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www.navytimes.com

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www.businessinsider.com

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slate.com

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www.bbc.com

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www.businessinsider.com

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Military loving, tough on crime Trump administration

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Exposed seal team 5

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[LA - L.A.]

Oh so in a thread about supposed bounties in Afghanistan we shouldn't discuss why we are still in Afghanistan after 19 years?

Yes, unless the goal is to avoid the actual topic of the thread.

 

[TaylorB]

WaPo is now saying the bounties resulted in deaths of US troops:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/russian-bounties-to-taliban-linked-militants-resulted-in-deaths-of-us-troops-according-to-intelligence-assessments/2020/06/28/74ffaec2-b96a-11ea-80b9-40ece9a701dc_story.html

This story has nothing to do with whether or not we should be in Afghanistan. The story is whether there is a legitimate explanation for the Trump admin’s inaction here. The explanations offered thus far are not satisfactory.

This type of story has been a long time coming for anyone who’s been willing to apply even an ounce of scrutiny to this administration’s foreign policy. I am not surprised the visceral reaction from Trump defenders is to deny / deflect, yet I still find the response extremely disheartening and disappointing.

 

[Saintamaniac]

Why would anyone trust the CIA after their many intelligence failures and their massive propaganda operations?

Why would anyone trust Trump who has lied over 18,000 times since taking office? Why would anyone trust anyone in the trump adminstration? I'll damn sure trust the career members of CIA, the FBI and even the NSA before I would trust anyone in the trump administration.

Trump is a habitual liar, but we aren't basing Congressional investigations and Special prosecutors on Trump's lies.

No, we're just basing domestic and foreign policy as well as economic and health policy on Trump lies.

 

[Savage]

Sooooo....

 

[LA - L.A.]

Sooooo....

Sooooo.... you believe unnamed sources? I just want to know where you stand on that as more reports from unnamed sources continue to come out on this topic. There will be a lot more coming.

 

[Andrus]

Sooooo....

Posting naked links and memes on this board.

All...Something that I have been meaning to address...Whenever you post links on this board, whether it be links to articles, Tweets, Instagram's, etc., or even when teasing and linking to articles, you need to add context. Otherwise, it is considered a naked link, which is frowned upon on...

madaboutpolitics.com

To be clear, please do not simply add links to Tweets or articles otherwise in drive-by fashion. You have to add some context as to your reasoning behind your posting them, even if you think that the context is self-explanatory. Please read the MCB posting guidelines.