Republicans moving ahead with Trump’s ‘big’ bill of tax breaks (1 Viewer)

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Republicans moving ahead with Trump's 'big' bill of tax breaks and spending cuts amid tariff uproar

After a long wait, the Senate is launching action on President Donald Trump’s ”“big, beautiful bill” of tax breaks and spending cuts.

apnews.com

More than a month after House Republicans surprised Washington by advancing their framework for Trump’s $4.5 trillion in tax breaks and $2 trillion in spending cuts, Senate Republicans voted Thursday to start working on their version. The largely party-line vote, 52-48, sets the stage for a potential Senate all-nighter Friday spilling into the weekend.

 

[MT15]

While the media is distracted with all the ME drama, the Senate GOP is going to try to ram that horrible bill through before ordinary people find out what’s in it.

 

[LA 2 L.A.]

While the media is distracted with all the ME drama, the Senate GOP is going to try to ram that horrible bill through before ordinary people find out what’s in it.

The medicaid cuts and hits to ACA, if passed, will be political suicide even for tyrant Trump's Republicans. Republicans have stopped doing town halls, because Republican voters were screaming at them not to touch medicaid, their ACA coverage, or social security. They kept lying that they wouldn't. The bill very much goes after all three. They can sneak passage by the public, but they can't hide the effects that people will suffer.

I don't want people to suffer, so I don't want it to pass. If it does pass, I have complete confidence the Republicans will get crushed in the midterm. I also have full confidence that if they try to shut down the election like some fear, they'll also get crushed on that.

 

[LA 2 L.A.]

I didn't know that the tax bill had a provision to retaliate against other countries who charge minimum corporate taxes. Tyrant Trump and his supporters have completely sold out to the tech billionaires.

House of Representatives Ways and Means Committee Chair Jason Smith told Reuters that the provision could be removed from the legislation if other countries and the European Union agree to suspend taxes such as the "Pillar Two" global minimum corporate tax.

Hassett specifically cited Pillar Two and digital service taxes, which impact large U.S. technology companies like Amazon and Alphabet.

Tyrant Trump is trying to force other countries to stop taxing corporations. They say it's about unfair treatment of US companies, but the other countries tax all companies, not just foreign companies. Tyrant Trump's tax retaliations would only be applied to foreign businesses.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/republicans-dangle-reprieve-tax-retaliation-trump-bill-heads-toward-votes-2025-06-25/

 

[Dragon]

I didn't know that the tax bill had a provision to retaliate against other countries who charge minimum corporate taxes. Tyrant Trump and his supporters have completely sold out to the tech billionaires.




Tyrant Trump is trying to force other countries to stop taxing corporations. They say it's about unfair treatment of US companies, but the other countries tax all companies, not just foreign companies. Tyrant Trump's tax retaliations would only be applied to foreign businesses.

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/republicans-dangle-reprieve-tax-retaliation-trump-bill-heads-toward-votes-2025-06-25/

Exactly. The irony is that Trump and his allies claim to be fighting for “America First,” but they’re really just shielding massive multinational tech firms—the same ones who are some of his biggest donors. Companies like Apple, Meta, and Google pour millions into political campaigns, PACs, and lobbying efforts, and Trump has been more than willing to act as their enforcer on the global stage.


The EU has been trying to rein in these tech giants for years, introducing Digital Markets Act (DMA), GDPR, and competition laws to stop anti-competitive behavior, protect user privacy, and ensure fair taxation. The U.S. under Trump has retaliated against these efforts, framing them as “unfair treatment of American companies” when in reality, these laws apply equally to all companies, foreign or domestic.


The truth is, the U.S. tech sector operates like a Wild West when it comes to regulation. They’re used to ignoring basic privacy protections, hoarding user data, and crushing smaller competitors. Europe has said “enough,” and now Trump is weaponizing U.S. tax policy to shield his billionaire donors from accountability. It’s not about protecting American interests—it’s about protecting profits for a handful of powerful corporations.

The European Commission is investigating Alphabet (Google), Apple, and Meta, among others, for anti-competitive behavior—such as favouring their own services, limiting cross-platform interoperability, and restricting consumer choice. First fines were issued in April 2025 (e.g., Apple €500M, Meta €200M). TikTok: €345M for violations related to children’s data and Meta: €1.2B fine for unlawful data transfers to the U.S

 

[LA 2 L.A.]

Exactly. The irony is that Trump and his allies claim to be fighting for “America First,” but they’re really just shielding massive multinational tech firms—the same ones who are some of his biggest donors. Companies like Apple, Meta, and Google pour millions into political campaigns, PACs, and lobbying efforts, and Trump has been more than willing to act as their enforcer on the global stage.


The EU has been trying to rein in these tech giants for years, introducing Digital Markets Act (DMA), GDPR, and competition laws to stop anti-competitive behavior, protect user privacy, and ensure fair taxation. The U.S. under Trump has retaliated against these efforts, framing them as “unfair treatment of American companies” when in reality, these laws apply equally to all companies, foreign or domestic.


The truth is, the U.S. tech sector operates like a Wild West when it comes to regulation. They’re used to ignoring basic privacy protections, hoarding user data, and crushing smaller competitors. Europe has said “enough,” and now Trump is weaponizing U.S. tax policy to shield his billionaire donors from accountability. It’s not about protecting American interests—it’s about protecting profits for a handful of powerful corporations.

The European Commission is investigating Alphabet (Google), Apple, and Meta, among others, for anti-competitive behavior—such as favouring their own services, limiting cross-platform interoperability, and restricting consumer choice. First fines were issued in April 2025 (e.g., Apple €500M, Meta €200M). TikTok: €345M for violations related to children’s data and Meta: €1.2B fine for unlawful data transfers to the U.S

Let's call it out for what it is. The MNC tech bros can't corrupt and control EU countries as much as they want, so they are taking advantage of tyrant Trump and his supporters to try to undermine the sovereign rights of EU countries. If it were the other way around, tyrant Trump and his supporters would already have the bombers on standby.

 

[Optimus Prime]

A group of protesters, some in wheelchairs, were arrested and zip-tied on Capitol Hill and dragged out by police officers as they demonstrated against proposed cuts to Medicaid in Republicans' massive spending package.

Proposed cuts could mean that some 10 million low-income Americans would lose coverage over the course of the next 10 years. The legislation would also put in place additional work requirements for those using the program.…..

Protesters in wheelchairs cuffed with zip-ties during Capitol demonstrations

More than 30 demonstrators arrested ahead of Senate vote over Trump’s ‘big, beautiful bill’ that could leave millions uninsured

www.independent.co.uk

 

[fooferdoggie]

A group of protesters, some in wheelchairs, were arrested and zip-tied on Capitol Hill and dragged out by police officers as they demonstrated against proposed cuts to Medicaid in Republicans' massive spending package.

Proposed cuts could mean that some 10 million low-income Americans would lose coverage over the course of the next 10 years. The legislation would also put in place additional work requirements for those using the program.…..

Protesters in wheelchairs cuffed with zip-ties during Capitol demonstrations

More than 30 demonstrators arrested ahead of Senate vote over Trump’s ‘big, beautiful bill’ that could leave millions uninsured

www.independent.co.uk

Man, that's one scary dude. could cause Trump to shatter his Depends.

 

[MT15]

 

[MT15]

Warren is killing it these days. Bless her.

 

[Optimus Prime]

And the next time Dems are in control I hope they tax the ever loving hell out of billionaires and billion dollar corporations

They’ll get over it

 

[fooferdoggie]

Moscow Mitch has so many faces its not funny supports trump does not support him supports corruption, fights against it. Just a evil of fork that will burn in hell.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

I apreciate her effort here, but she needs to expand her argument against this shirtty legislation past the Medicare cuts. There is soo much in this bill that does nothing but shift the burden of funding the Gov to the middle and lower class in order to make millionaires into multi-billionaires.

 

[MT15]

Every newscast needs to lead with this:

 

[Dragon]

Let's call it out for what it is. The MNC tech bros can't corrupt and control EU countries as much as they want, so they are taking advantage of tyrant Trump and his supporters to try to undermine the sovereign rights of EU countries. If it were the other way around, tyrant Trump and his supporters would already have the bombers on standby.

Can you imagine the reaction if a European company were caught illegally transferring data about U.S. citizens to Europe? That’s essentially what the U.S. accuses TikTok of doing with data sent to China. Yet when the EU fines U.S. companies for illegally transferring European citizens’ data to the U.S., it’s suddenly labeled a "trade violation" by Trump. The double standard is staggering.

 

[Lapaz]

Can you imagine the reaction if a European company were caught illegally transferring data about U.S. citizens to Europe? That’s essentially what the U.S. accuses TikTok of doing with data sent to China. Yet when the EU fines U.S. companies for illegally transferring European citizens’ data to the U.S., it’s suddenly labeled a "trade violation" by Trump. The double standard is staggering.

I don’t know if it should be a trade violation, but I’m far more worried about what China will do with big data than what Western corporations will do. China is a legit threat to the West, and the potential for misuse without legal ramifications to them is much larger. Western corporations can also do some nefarious things, but the danger is not existential.

I think our Intel agencies are not as politicized as the rest of society, so I still put a lot of faith behind their warnings and admonitions.

 

[Dragon]

I don’t know if it should be a trade violation, but I’m far more worried about what China will do with big data than what Western corporations will do. China is a legit threat to the West, and the potential for misuse without legal ramifications to them is much larger. Western corporations can also do some nefarious things, but the danger is not existential.

I think our Intel agencies are not as politicized as the rest of society, so I still put a lot of faith behind their warnings and admonitions.

I agree that China is a serious threat, especially given the lack of legal checks on their use of big data. But we shouldn't ignore the very real dangers posed by US based corporations either. Several have already been caught promoting right-wing propaganda through algorithms designed to manipulate the most vulnerable users—not for ideology, but profit.

When personal data is illegally transferred abroad, it becomes even harder to regulate or hold anyone accountable. That data powers systems that undermine trust, spread disinformation, and polarize society. It may not look “existential,” but the long-term damage to democracy is very real.

So yes—watch China. But let’s not give US corporations a free pass while they quietly destabilize our societies from within.

 

[Lapaz]

Every newscast needs to lead with this:

It is so morally bankrupt to lower aid to families near the poverty level, while simultaneously decreasing taxes for people making 10 times the poverty level. Increasing defense is also so unnecessary, particularly when so much if the spending is on equipment that is useless for today’s adversaries. With fewer IRS agents, and the no taxes on tips loophole, there will be more fraud, so it is also mortgaging the future. The bill should be called the immoral bill. That might sell better.

 

[Bolo]

I have a family member who is on medicaid and will more than likely lose coverage once this bill passes in its current form by Jan 2027. The catch? She's a diehard Republican who is cheering on this bill and 100% believes all this bill does is kick illegals off medicaid. I've got in repeated fights with her telling her this is direct program reform with a sledge hammer and not just fine scalpel cuts targeted at illegals. She is cheering her medical care destruction on and its unfathomable to me.

Combine that with today's supreme court ruling, theres not much in stopping it. Some blue states will sue and injunction in their specific districts which may slow down or temp stop the legislation in those districts but Louisiana is a deep red state and I don't see how she won't be touched by this in a big way.