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    So, rather than burying this subject in an already broad thread I felt this topic, and the study it is based on, deserved its own thread. A debate about whether the protests have been mostly violent or not has been had multiple times in multiple threads so when I saw this analysis it piqued my interest.

    A few key points: It characterizes the BLM movement as "an overwhelmingly peaceful movement." Most of the violent demonstrations were surrounding Confederate monuments. To this mostly non-violent movement, the government has responded violently, and disproportionately so, to BLM than other demonstrations, including a militarized federal response. The media has, also, been targeted by this violent government response. There is a high rate of non-state actor involvement in BLM demonstrations. Lastly, there is a rising number of counter-protest that turn violent. I shouldn't say lastly because there is, also, a lot of data relating to Covid too.

    The Armed Conflict Location and Event Data Project (ACLED) begin tracking BLM demonstrations since this summer, the week of George Floyd's killing. I am linking the entire study for all to read. I am highlighting excerpts I personally found interesting.


    The vast majority of demonstration events associated with the BLM movement are non-violent (see map below). In more than 93% of all demonstrations connected to the movement, demonstrators have not engaged in violence or destructive activity. Peaceful protests are reported in over 2,400 distinct locations around the country. Violent demonstrations, meanwhile, have been limited to fewer than 220 locations — under 10% of the areas that experienced peaceful protests. In many urban areas like Portland, Oregon, for example, which has seen sustained unrest since Floyd’s killing, violent demonstrations are largely confined to specific blocks, rather than dispersed throughout the city (CNN, 1 September 2020).

    Yet, despite data indicating that demonstrations associated with the BLM movement are overwhelmingly peaceful, one recent poll suggested that 42% of respondents believe “most protesters [associated with the BLM movement] are trying to incite violence or destroy property” (FiveThirtyEight, 5 June 2020). This is in line with the Civiqs tracking poll which finds that “net approval for the Black Lives Matter movement peaked back on June 3 [the week following the killing of George Floyd when riots first began to be reported] and has fallen sharply since” (USA Today, 31 August 2020; Civiqs, 29 August 2020).

    Research from the University of Washington indicates that this disparity stems from political orientation and biased media framing (Washington Post, 24 August 2020), such as disproportionate coverage of violent demonstrations (Business Insider, 11 June 2020; Poynter, 25 June 2020). Groups like the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) have documented organized disinformation campaigns aimed at spreading a “deliberate mischaracterization of groups or movements [involved in the protests], such as portraying activists who support Black Lives Matter as violent extremists or claiming that antifa is a terrorist organization coordinated or manipulated by nebulous external forces” (ADL, 2020). These disinformation campaigns may be contributing to the decline in public support for the BLM movement after the initial increase following Floyd’s killing, especially amongst the white population (USA Today, 31 August 2020; Civiqs, 30 August 2020a, 30 August 2020b). This waning support also comes as the Trump administration recently shifted its “law and order” messaging to target local Democratic Party politicians from urban areas, particularly on the campaign trail (NPR, 27 August 2020).

    Despite the fact that demonstrations associated with the BLM movement have been overwhelmingly peaceful, more than 9% — or nearly one in 10 — have been met with government intervention, compared to 3% of all other demonstrations. This also marks a general increase in intervention rates relative to this time last year. In July 2019, authorities intervened in under 2% of all demonstrations — fewer than 30 events — relative to July 2020, when they intervened in 9% of all demonstrations — or over 170 events.

    Authorities have used force — such as firing less-lethal weapons like tear gas, rubber bullets, and pepper spray or beating demonstrators with batons — in over 54% of the demonstrations in which they have engaged. This too is a significant increase relative to one year ago. In July 2019, government personnel used force in just three documented demonstrations, compared to July 2020, when they used force against demonstrators in at least 65 events. Over 5% of all events linked to the BLM movement have been met with force by authorities, compared to under 1% of all other demonstrations.

    Non-state groups are becoming more active and assertive. Since May, ACLED records over 100 events in which non-state actors engaged in demonstrations (including counter-demonstrations) — the vast majority of which were in response to demonstrations associated with the BLM movement. These non-state actors include groups and militias from both the left and right side of the political spectrum, such as Antifa, the Not forking Around Coalition, the New Mexico Civil Guard, the Patriot Front, the Proud Boys, the Boogaloo Bois, and the Ku Klux Klan, among others (see map below).3

    Between 24 May and 22 August, over 360 counter-protests were recorded around the country, accounting for nearly 5% of all demonstrations. Of these, 43 — nearly 12% — turned violent, with clashes between pro-police demonstrators and demonstrators associated with the BLM movement, for example. In July alone, ACLED records over 160 counter-protests, or more than 8% of all demonstrations. Of these, 18 turned violent. This is a significant increase relative to July 2019, when only 17 counter-protests were reported around the country, or approximately 1% of all demonstrations, and only one of these allegedly turned violent.
     
    https://abc7.com/la-deputies-shot-los-angeles-shooting-compton-ambush/6422935/

    Here is the end result of the BLM rhetoric. But wait, we are not done! They also rallied outside the hospital to show the class that this organization possesses. Although, they might be proud boys or some other right wing hate group?

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...block-police-er-shooting-compton-b434035.html

    Also, what is the over under on when they find the ahole that shot these cops and he turns on the arresting officer and is shot, how long until the Saints put his name on a helmet to honor him too?
    Just kidding, the NFL only supports those that participate in sexual assault (if found guilty).
     
    BLM isn’t anti-police, they don’t advocate for violence against police. They are anti-violence, especially by police against black people.

    The Boogaloo Boys, however, are virulently anti-police and they would celebrate this shooting. There are other groups that would as well. Not BLM, though.
     
    https://abc7.com/la-deputies-shot-los-angeles-shooting-compton-ambush/6422935/

    Here is the end result of the BLM rhetoric. But wait, we are not done! They also rallied outside the hospital to show the class that this organization possesses. Although, they might be proud boys or some other right wing hate group?

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...block-police-er-shooting-compton-b434035.html

    Also, what is the over under on when they find the ahole that shot these cops and he turns on the arresting officer and is shot, how long until the Saints put his name on a helmet to honor him too?
    Just kidding, the NFL only supports those that participate in sexual assault (if found guilty).
    Is there anything connecting BLM to that hospital protest? Which, I'm totally against, BTW.

    One point, LA Sheriff's office is rife with abuse and gangs that infiltrated the deputies. It's really bad.
     
    Take you pick, Antifa or BLM? I don't think it was the proud boys or whatever boogeyman group the media is trying to target.

    Several articles link them to BLM while they very may not be, odds are that they are. If I am wrong, let me know.
     
    https://abc7.com/la-deputies-shot-los-angeles-shooting-compton-ambush/6422935/

    Here is the end result of the BLM rhetoric. But wait, we are not done! They also rallied outside the hospital to show the class that this organization possesses. Although, they might be proud boys or some other right wing hate group?

    Take you pick, Antifa or BLM? I don't think it was the proud boys or whatever boogeyman group the media is trying to target.

    Several articles link them to BLM while they very may not be, odds are that they are. If I am wrong, let me know.
    People said the same thing about the officer killed in the Oakland area during the protests back in May.

    Then we found out it was in fact white, right wing extremists that killed the officer. It's clear to me that who's actually committing the violence isn't as important as seizing every opportunity to blame all of it on certain people.

    I say that because rarely do the people who throw out premature accusations ever bother to admit they were mistaken.
     
    BLM isn’t anti-police, they don’t advocate for violence against police. They are anti-violence, especially by police against black people.

    The Boogaloo Boys, however, are virulently anti-police and they would celebrate this shooting. There are other groups that would as well. Not BLM, though.
    Seems about the same to me as 'anti-police' minus all the double speak:

    https://blacklivesmatter.com/defundthepolice/
     
    Take you pick, Antifa or BLM? I don't think it was the proud boys or whatever boogeyman group the media is trying to target.

    Several articles link them to BLM while they very may not be, odds are that they are. If I am wrong, let me know.

    What articles link the shootings to BLM?
     
    People said the same thing about the officer killed in the Oakland area during the protests back in May.

    Then we found out it was in fact white, right wing extremists that killed the officer. It's clear to me that who's actually committing the violence isn't as important as seizing every opportunity to blame all of it on certain people.

    I say that because rarely do the people who throw out premature accusations ever bother to admit they were mistaken.
    Like the riots in Lancaster over the weekend?
    https://www.wmar2news.com/news/amer...a-after-officer-kills-man-charging-with-knife
     
    What articles link the shootings to BLM?
    I was referring to the protesters at the hospital not the shooting.
    The shooter, I doubt he was an employee of BLM or Antifa, more than not, he was just some banger caught up in the years long ACAB propaganda campaign of BLM and Antifa.
     
    Yet another example of doing everything possible to show a certain group of people in the worst way possible, while showing no regard for the actual facts of the matter.

    I read the article. Not once does it mention Black Lives Matters was involved.

    It seems some people think all black people are part of Black Lives Matters, especially if it's black people committing violence. It seems those people think all black people are the same. I say that, because they portray the actions of some black people as indicative of all black people and Black Lives Matter.

    Those same people have a tendency to only post things about black people that show them in a negative light. I wonder why someone would do that?
     
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    I was referring to the protesters at the hospital not the shooting.
    Wait, so all you're talking about is those three idiots protesting? Do you have a link to an article tying them to the BLM movement?
     
    I was referring to the protesters at the hospital not the shooting.
    The shooter, I doubt he was an employee of BLM or Antifa, more than not, he was just some banger caught up in the years long ACAB propaganda campaign of BLM and Antifa.

    seriously, an employee of BLM or Antifa? There are no employees of Antifa, and BLM I seriously doubt has more than a handful if any.

    There are definitely some groups that are virulently anti-police, BLM isn’t one of them. I don’t have a clue about Antifa, but BLM and Antifa are definitely not interchangeable like you seem to think.

    I would also like to see something to back up what you are saying about the stupid people at the hospital.
     
    @Farb-

    Can you name (use Google if you have to I will wait) a single Antifa leader? Their mantra? Meeting places? Websites?

    I actually will save you the trouble because there are none. Not one. You may find a Facebook page or a Twitter account for local groups but Antifa has no real leadership. Hell it isn’t even an actual Organization. Literally no financial support or leadership at all. Just a name given to those who oppose Fascism.

    Now let’s look at the “boogeymen”- your words - Proud Boys. I can find HUNDREDS of pages on them. Their founder is Gavin McGinnis, the founder of Vice (who kicked him out when he was outed as a white supremacist) and an MMA guy who denied their practices until he was caught on tape orchestrating their tactics. They are funded through multiple sources. They have many arms- like Patriot Prayer here in Portland, run by the itty bitty Josh Gibson. They have a media arm run by Andy Ngo.

    I could go on but I think I made my point.
     
    You dont have to be racist to question everything about the BLM movement. Word play doesnt make me support a movement. There is a distinction between what the words mean and what they chose to name their group.
    But if it is easier to suggest I am racist. Go right ahead. That did annoy me at one time, now it is just pathetic to me.
     
    @Farb-

    Can you name (use Google if you have to I will wait) a single Antifa leader? Their mantra? Meeting places? Websites?

    I actually will save you the trouble because there are none. Not one. You may find a Facebook page or a Twitter account for local groups but Antifa has no real leadership. Hell it isn’t even an actual Organization. Literally no financial support or leadership at all. Just a name given to those who oppose Fascism.

    Now let’s look at the “boogeymen”- your words - Proud Boys. I can find HUNDREDS of pages on them. Their founder is Gavin McGinnis, the founder of Vice (who kicked him out when he was outed as a white supremacist) and an MMA guy who denied their practices until he was caught on tape orchestrating their tactics. They are funded through multiple sources. They have many arms- like Patriot Prayer here in Portland, run by the itty bitty Josh Gibson. They have a media arm run by Andy Ngo.

    I could go on but I think I made my point.
    I want to get into that but I am in the middle of a race to alchohol induced ACless sleep.
     

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