Now is not the time to talk about gun control (6 Viewers)

[brandon]

T&P

10 killed in Boulder shooting: Victims identified, suspect charged

Police said 10 people were killed, including an officer, after a shooting at a King Soopers grocery store in Boulder, Colorado.

www.google.com

 

[brandon]

Wow, now you are thinking.
I should have known I needed to state the freaking obvious.
I'll do better next time.

So why, if guns are so freaking obvious, don’t we do something about access to guns first and see what happens?

Why do we have to do this song and dance of trying to find any other reason rather than fixing the freaking obvious one?

 

[brandon]

I really don't care what you reject or accept.
I wonder what would have happened if the doctor who figured out how to use pig valves in humans had simply said "There is no evidence that it is possible so it must not be possible". That is all you're doing. You are denying even the possibility because you see no evidence for it.

But there absolutely was evidence it would work.

You think they were just like “what if we tried a pig heart LOL?!” and then just started cutting a dude’s chest open?

 

[Texan1211]

But there absolutely was evidence it would work.

You think they were just like “what if we tried a pig heart LOL?!” and then just started cutting a dude’s chest open?

Obtuse much?
Obviously I don't think that. Thank you for making my PRECISE point. They did not know, so they did research--because they were open to the possibility. What part are you not getting here?

 

[Texan1211]

So why, if guns are so freaking obvious, don’t we do something about access to guns first and see what happens?

What do you propose to achieve that goal?

 

[brandon]

Obtuse much?
Obviously I don't think that. Thank you for making my PRECISE point. They did not know, so they did research--because they were open to the possibility. What part are you not getting here?

Great! So presumably there’s been some research done on your argument that you can produce so we can review it, right?

Or are you saying you’re going to go do the research yourself and report back?

Again, you’re making the claim of possibility. So now you need to back that up.

 

[Texan1211]

Great! So presumably there’s been some research done on your argument that you can produce so we can review it, right?

Or are you saying you’re going to go do the research yourself and report back?

Again, you’re making the claim of possibility. So now you need to back that up.

Go play your obtuse game on someone else.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

I really don't care what you reject or accept.
I wonder what would have happened if the doctor who figured out how to use pig valves in humans had simply said "There is no evidence that it is possible so it must not be possible". That is all you're doing. You are denying even the possibility because you see no evidence for it.

When people have ideas or theories or hypotheses, they go out and test them. They gather information and data. They then make their case to the scientific community for evaluation.

You are putting forth a theory with zero evidence and getting pissy when people won't accept it without you doing the legwork. Do you see the difference?

 

[DaveXA]

Since we’re talking about times when there was less violence - here’s one that actually has a scientific correlation.

Guess what happened between the two red lines:

Didn't see an answer...oh, i know, i know! Assault weapons ban implemented...then repealed.

 

[brandon]

What do you propose to achieve that goal?

Well, I’ve written pretty extensively on this in multiple threads, but to keep it short and sweet:

Voluntary gun buyback program at above-market rates.

Restrict the manufacture and sale of semi-automatic weapons. Require licensing to purchase these weapons with mandatory background checks, gun registration, wait times, and yearly qualification training.

Lots of ideas.

 

[brandon]

Go play your obtuse game on someone else.

It’s not an obtuse game. It’s how science works.

This should help:

Scientific Method For Kids With Examples - Little Bins for Little Hands

Using the scientific method with kids is a great way to introduce how to ask questions, set up an experiment, and test results.

littlebinsforlittlehands.com

 

[Texan1211]

It’s not an obtuse game. It’s how science works.

This should help:

Scientific Method For Kids With Examples - Little Bins for Little Hands

Using the scientific method with kids is a great way to introduce how to ask questions, set up an experiment, and test results.

littlebinsforlittlehands.com

Adios.

 

[brandon]

Adios.

On post #1776, I declare this board independent from your unsupported assertions.

 

[Texan1211]

Voluntary gun buyback program at above-market rates.

That will help some, but most folks don't really want to sell their guns.

Restrict the manufacture and sale of semi-automatic weapons.

That's good, too, but doesn't necessarily restrict access to guns in general.

Require licensing to purchase these weapons with mandatory background checks, gun registration, wait times, and yearly qualification training.

Great things too, but not sure how much effect that will have on access.
I would allow for every 2 years of qualification for those between 26 and 55 years old.

 

[Texan1211]

On post #1776, I declare this board independent from your unsupported assertions.

(Bugler blowing)
Dah-dah-da-dah!

 

[Texan1211]

When people have ideas or theories or hypotheses, they go out and test them. They gather information and data. They then make their case to the scientific community for evaluation.

You are putting forth a theory with zero evidence and getting pissy when people won't accept it without you doing the legwork. Do you see the difference?

Do you consider yourself open minded?

 

[brandon]

That will help some, but most folks don't really want to sell their guns.

That's good, too, but doesn't necessarily restrict access to guns in general.

Great things too, but not sure how much effect that will have on access.
I would allow for every 2 years of qualification for those between 26 and 55 years old.

Without a repeal of the second amendment, the best we can achieve is reducing access to guns. We can’t eliminate it completely, but there are absolutely steps we can take to make it much more difficult for the wrong people to get their hands on weapons.

There’s tons of good ideas out there that can help. The problem is that Republicans in Congress see any gun control measures as non-starters.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Do you consider yourself open minded?

To an extent, yes. To quote Tim Minchin: "If you open your mind too much, your brain will fall out."

 

[Texan1211]

To an extent, yes. To quote Tim Minchin: "If you open your mind too much, your brain will fall out."

To an extent.
I see.