Now is not the time to talk about gun control (1 Viewer)

[brandon]

T&P

10 killed in Boulder shooting: Victims identified, suspect charged

Police said 10 people were killed, including an officer, after a shooting at a King Soopers grocery store in Boulder, Colorado.

www.google.com

 

[bird]

I’m down

Me too.

 

[B4YOU]

"Suspect faces gun charges: Ryan Wesley Routh, the suspect in the apparent assassination attempt of Donald Trump, has been charged with two counts, including possession of a firearm while a convicted felon and possession of a firearm with an obliterated serial number. A detention hearing is set for next Monday." per CNN.

This is going to be a peer-to-peer sale. A simple gun control solution to reduce felons getting guns is a national, digital registry and requiring all gun sales through licensed dealers or at government offices.

 

[Lapaz]

"Suspect faces gun charges: Ryan Wesley Routh, the suspect in the apparent assassination attempt of Donald Trump, has been charged with two counts, including possession of a firearm while a convicted felon and possession of a firearm with an obliterated serial number. A detention hearing is set for next Monday." per CNN.

This is going to be a peer-to-peer sale. A simple gun control solution to reduce felons getting guns is a national, digital registry and requiring all gun sales through licensed dealers or at government offices.

All gun sale and/or exchange/gift, including peer-to-peer, should be registered. I included exchanges/gifts, since some people will try to get around the law by not exchanging money, but if you give someone a weapon, you should inform authorities. If a private individual doesn't register the sale/gift/exchange, he should face fines that are at least the value of the gun, while any registered seller should face jail time and lose their license. By the way, anyone who sells more than x number of guns per year should be required to be registered. I'd set the number at 10 guns per year. Guns shouldn't be treated so inconspicuously. It should be a big deal to weaponize a person.

 

[Optimus Prime]

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An 11-year-old boy was punished this month for reporting a classmate for having a bullet at school because, according to administrators, he waited too long to do so.

School officials at St. John the Apostle Catholic School in Virginia Beach suspended a sixth grader for 1½ days for waiting about two hours to report a bullet his friend had shown him, according to Tim Anderson, a lawyer representing the boy and his mother Rachel Wigand.

News of the boy’s punishment led last week to threats of violence against St. John’s, a two-day closure of the Catholic School and the arrest of a man in North Carolina accused of making the threats, all while administrators tried to reassure parents who might find the whirlwind “deeply unsettling.”

School officials defended the punishment, saying they held the boy accountable for the kind of delay that could have catastrophic consequences if not relayed to adults, citing the recent school shooting at Apalachee High School in Winder, Ga., that killed four and injured nine. Anderson contended that punishing the boy for “doing the right thing” makes the school less safe by disincentivizing students from coming forward.

“The message it sends is, instead of ‘See something, say something,’ the kids are better off not saying anything,” Anderson said, adding that “it’s creating a more dangerous environment.”

The Catholic Diocese of Richmond, of which St. John’s is a part, defended punishing the boy.

“The school’s culture of safety requires that students and adults alike report potential threats as quickly as they are made aware of them; in a real emergency, gaps in reporting time — especially hours-long gaps — could have major consequences for school safety,” the diocese said in a statement.

On the morning of Sept. 5, Wigand’s son’s class prepared to take a standardized test by moving desks into a different formation, Anderson said, and while doing so, a classmate showed him a bullet. Wigand said the other boy was showing it off after finding it in his parents’ coin jar, and her son didn’t perceive it as a threat.

Even though he was shocked, he decided to wait until he could report the bullet anonymously, Wigand said. So he took the standardized math test for the next 1½ hours, then attended an art class which the boy with the bullet was also taking.

A fire drill followed, during which Wigand’s son went to interim principal Jennifer Davey to tell her about the bullet, Anderson said. Police came to the school, searched the other boy’s bag and found it, he added.

The principal commended Wigan’s son but also told him he was being suspended for two days because he hadn’t made the report immediately, Anderson said. The other boy was suspended for the same amount of time, he added.

Wigand said that when her son had told her why he’d been suspended, she suspected he wasn’t telling her everything and interrogated him.

“There’s no way somebody would suspend you for reporting something,” she said, describing her reaction at the time. “I couldn’t believe it.”

But Wigand confirmed what her son had told her when she spoke to the principal that night at a school open house. She reviewed the student handbook, found nothing about a requirement to report anything other than sexual harassment and pointed that out to school officials, Anderson said. The principal was nevertheless “adamant” that her son be punished, the lawyer said.............

MSN

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/09/17/bullet-suspension-virginia-beach/

 

[Lapaz]

guess this can go here
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An 11-year-old boy was punished this month for reporting a classmate for having a bullet at school because, according to administrators, he waited too long to do so.

School officials at St. John the Apostle Catholic School in Virginia Beach suspended a sixth grader for 1½ days for waiting about two hours to report a bullet his friend had shown him, according to Tim Anderson, a lawyer representing the boy and his mother Rachel Wigand.

News of the boy’s punishment led last week to threats of violence against St. John’s, a two-day closure of the Catholic School and the arrest of a man in North Carolina accused of making the threats, all while administrators tried to reassure parents who might find the whirlwind “deeply unsettling.”

School officials defended the punishment, saying they held the boy accountable for the kind of delay that could have catastrophic consequences if not relayed to adults, citing the recent school shooting at Apalachee High School in Winder, Ga., that killed four and injured nine. Anderson contended that punishing the boy for “doing the right thing” makes the school less safe by disincentivizing students from coming forward.

“The message it sends is, instead of ‘See something, say something,’ the kids are better off not saying anything,” Anderson said, adding that “it’s creating a more dangerous environment.”

The Catholic Diocese of Richmond, of which St. John’s is a part, defended punishing the boy.

“The school’s culture of safety requires that students and adults alike report potential threats as quickly as they are made aware of them; in a real emergency, gaps in reporting time — especially hours-long gaps — could have major consequences for school safety,” the diocese said in a statement.

On the morning of Sept. 5, Wigand’s son’s class prepared to take a standardized test by moving desks into a different formation, Anderson said, and while doing so, a classmate showed him a bullet. Wigand said the other boy was showing it off after finding it in his parents’ coin jar, and her son didn’t perceive it as a threat.

Even though he was shocked, he decided to wait until he could report the bullet anonymously, Wigand said. So he took the standardized math test for the next 1½ hours, then attended an art class which the boy with the bullet was also taking.

A fire drill followed, during which Wigand’s son went to interim principal Jennifer Davey to tell her about the bullet, Anderson said. Police came to the school, searched the other boy’s bag and found it, he added.

The principal commended Wigan’s son but also told him he was being suspended for two days because he hadn’t made the report immediately, Anderson said. The other boy was suspended for the same amount of time, he added.

Wigand said that when her son had told her why he’d been suspended, she suspected he wasn’t telling her everything and interrogated him.

“There’s no way somebody would suspend you for reporting something,” she said, describing her reaction at the time. “I couldn’t believe it.”

But Wigand confirmed what her son had told her when she spoke to the principal that night at a school open house. She reviewed the student handbook, found nothing about a requirement to report anything other than sexual harassment and pointed that out to school officials, Anderson said. The principal was nevertheless “adamant” that her son be punished, the lawyer said.............

MSN

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/09/17/bullet-suspension-virginia-beach/

I would immediately pull my kid out of that school. It is crazy that the kid that brought the bullet received the same punishment as the kid that did the right thing. That principle and diocese are mentally challenged.

 

[Sharon]

It is crazy that the kid that brought the bullet received the same punishment as the kid that did the right thing.

This! The penalty for disturbing the testing environment (state tests) is much worse than the punishment given to the child bringing the bullet. I'm not surprised that child was conflicted about speaking up. This position is entirely the making of the testing companies/lobbyists/politicians who have inflicted these tests on this past generation. For what? $$$$$$$$$

 

[Optimus Prime]

I would immediately pull my kid out of that school. It is crazy that the kid that brought the bullet received the same punishment as the kid that did the right thing. That principle and diocese are mentally challenged.

And from now on that kid will be like

“The next time I see something I’m not saying shirt”

 

[Lapaz]

And from now on that kid will be like

“The next time I see something I’m not saying shirt”

Yep. The message they're sending is so dangerous. I think the message they're sending is keep your mouth shut. It is idiotic, and people will get hurt in the future due to internalizing that message.

 

[boy_of_wonder75]

A juvenile was arrested today for posting threats online to shoot people at Covington High School.

Juvenile taken into custody after posting threats of violence towards Covington High School

Police will remain on-site throughout the school day as a "precautionary measure."

www.wwltv.com

 

[Eeyore]

Biblical rights?

So Chewie was packin' heat?

 

[fooferdoggie]

Biblical rights?

So Chewie was packin' heat?

proving school failed this dude he made himself a Peice of work and deserves all of the hate.

 

[MT15]

Good deal.

 

[Optimus Prime]

An Texas judge has slapped down an attempt by state Attorney General Ken Paxton (R) to force the state fair to allow guns.

Paxton’s office sued in August to block a change in state fair policy to ban private firearms — a change Dallas County District Judge Emily Tobolowsky upheld Thursday.

Concealed handguns had been permitted at the fair, which often sees more than 100,000 people per day — until last season, when a 22-year old man opened fire in a crowded food court, injuring several people.

In suspect Cameron Turner’s account of events, the shooting was the sort of incident of self-defense that advocates of Texas’s broad gun laws have often pointed to: He told officers that he and his family were approached by several large men, and he went into “defensive” mode to protect them.

Later police investigations cast doubt on this story — Turner was, for one thing, alone when the shooting started — and last month, the state fair banned firearms unless carried by an active- or off-duty police officer.

Within days, that action had elicited a petition by 71 state lawmakers who argued that the change had made Texans less safe — and undermined the fair’s mission to be “a celebration of all things Texas.”

“Law-abiding citizens of the United States use firearms daily to defend themselves against criminals,” the legislators wrote...........

MSN

 

[Optimus Prime]

The City of Dallas has made the 2024 Texas State Fair ‘a ”free-fire-ZONE” for criminals.’

My family AND I will not be attending the Texas State Fair this YEAR unless the recently announced policy of not allowing law abiding citizens to protect themselves is rescinded.

Unfortunately, the City of Dallas has chosen to prioritize the desires of criminals to rob, rape, murder and harm citizens, at will, over the God given rights of law-abiding citizens to defend themselves.

You ask: “Why would they do this?” Answer: In 2023, a criminal illegally smuggled a gun onto the fairgrounds through a hole in the fence. Instead of closing that hole and taking actions to further prevent criminals from illegally having weapons on the fairgrounds, fair authorities decided to take away guns legally carried by law abiding citizens to defend themselves. And the hole in the fence is still there

It is with great concern that I must warn my fellow Texans about the reckless and short-sighted decision made by Texas State Fair organizers to prohibit firearms within the fairgrounds. This decision, driven by misguided policies and secretive maneuvers, not only jeopardizes the safety of law-abiding citizens but encourages the very criminals who prey on defenseless families wishing to enjoy an American pastime.............

WARNING: 2024 TEXAS STATE FAIR IS TOO DANGEROUS TO ATTEND | Bob Hall – Senator standing for duty, honor, and country

senatorbobhall.com

 

[DaveXA]

An Texas judge has slapped down an attempt by state Attorney General Ken Paxton (R) to force the state fair to allow guns.

Paxton’s office sued in August to block a change in state fair policy to ban private firearms — a change Dallas County District Judge Emily Tobolowsky upheld Thursday.

Concealed handguns had been permitted at the fair, which often sees more than 100,000 people per day — until last season, when a 22-year old man opened fire in a crowded food court, injuring several people.

In suspect Cameron Turner’s account of events, the shooting was the sort of incident of self-defense that advocates of Texas’s broad gun laws have often pointed to: He told officers that he and his family were approached by several large men, and he went into “defensive” mode to protect them.

Later police investigations cast doubt on this story — Turner was, for one thing, alone when the shooting started — and last month, the state fair banned firearms unless carried by an active- or off-duty police officer.

Within days, that action had elicited a petition by 71 state lawmakers who argued that the change had made Texans less safe — and undermined the fair’s mission to be “a celebration of all things Texas.”

“Law-abiding citizens of the United States use firearms daily to defend themselves against criminals,” the legislators wrote...........

MSN

Paxton continues to prove he's a bigger idiot than Abbott.