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    There’s a lot of doubt that Kevin McCarthy will be able to get enough votes to become Speaker. It certainly won’t happen on the first ballot. Already Boboert and MTG are publicly at odds over it.

    Maybe this is worth it’s own thread to watch. One person mentioned is Scalise.

     
    Lapaz said:
    Why do they have to be in leadership or a committee chair? There were several votes for people that aren't even in Congress! If it has to be someone in leadership, then Tom Cole would be a decent choice, since he has voted with Biden 28.3% of the time, but he is a very red district, so he'd probably lose re-election if he worked in a bi-partisan manner. However, I don't think it has to be anyone in leadership, as long as he has enough support in the House.

    A coalition government wouldn't need a majority of Republicans. It just needs a majority period. There are enough Democrats that would vote with the few remaining Republicans to allow governance. If Democrats can support McHenry, who has only voted along with Biden about 15% of the time, then they can certainly get behind someone like Valadao, that voted to impeach Trump and has voted with Biden 30% of the time. He is in a safely blue open primary district, so he would be able to work with Democrats without fearing losing his seat. McHenry will face a lot of pressure from his very red district. Valadao has already gotten a vote for speaker, so he has support from at least 1 other Republican, and I bet there are many more that would support him.
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    I'd be pretty happy with Valadao as Speaker. Don't know what his reputation on the Hill is though.
     
    DaveXA said:
    Well, Jeffries has already had positive things to say about McHenry. So if Jeffries thinks he's acceptable enough, I can live with that.
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    That would seem to be the play to me then.. the Speaker here will be a Republican no matter what and with that reality in mind and given the overall circumstances I don't see the point in opposing McHenry.

    If temporarily making McHenry speaker somehow makes it more likely that Jordan can come back with the votes and gain the Speakership, then OK. But it just doesn't seem likely to me that Jordan reemerges with the necessary support.
     
    Lapaz said:
    Why do they have to be in leadership or a committee chair?
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    Well for one thing, it would show that they may have the capacity or the want to lead! The Speaker must have, at the very minimum, some leadership qualities and just because they were elected to office doesn't mean they are effective leaders.
     
    DJ1BigTymer said:
    Well for one thing, it would show that they may have the capacity or the want to lead! The Speaker must have, at the very minimum, some leadership qualities and just because they were elected to office doesn't mean they are effective leaders.
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    Well Jordan only wants to lead the country into Chaos, so nearly anyone is better. Even a terrible leader with good intentions is better than a great leader with malicious intentions. The former may not get much done, but he also won’t succeed in destroying the country.
     
    Lapaz said:
    Well Jordan only wants to lead the country into Chaos, so nearly anyone is better. Even a terrible leader with good intentions is better than a great leader with malicious intentions. The former may not get much done, but he also won’t succeed in destroying the country.
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    That's the thing, a person that has shown that they want to actually lead can be a terrible leader or a good leader but they have shown leadership traits. Jordan doesn't want to lead, he wants nothing but power. That's not leadership and to select someone that not capable of being a leader or doesn't want to be one doesn't do any of us any good and could lead us to the same direction that Jordan would. Power corrupts.
     
    bdb13 said:
    That would seem to be the play to me then.. the Speaker here will be a Republican no matter what and with that reality in mind and given the overall circumstances I don't see the point in opposing McHenry.

    If temporarily making McHenry speaker somehow makes it more likely that Jordan can come back with the votes and gain the Speakership, then OK. But it just doesn't seem likely to me that Jordan reemerges with the necessary support.
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    If the reporting and chatter about the Jordan opposition is true, then we should expect that he won't get the votes at any time. The word has been that these 20 and perhaps even more fundamentally oppose Jordan as Speaker based on Jordan and his demonstrated conduct. So there's no horse trading that can be done to earn votes like we might see in a more traditional Speaker election.

    Of course once people start making concessions, you can never fully predict how it's going to go.
     
    superchuck500 said:
    If the reporting and chatter about the Jordan opposition is true, then we should expect that he won't get the votes at any time. The word has been that these 20 and perhaps even more fundamentally oppose Jordan as Speaker based on Jordan and his demonstrated conduct. So there's no horse trading that can be done to earn votes like we might see in a more traditional Speaker election.

    Of course once people start making concessions, you can never fully predict how it's going to go.
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    And it looks like it'll take a moderate coalition amongst Democrats and Republicans to give McHenry the temporary powers.

    Though I didn't quite realize until a few minutes ago that McHenry is amongst the Jordan supporters and is still publicly supporting him.
     
    V Chip said:
    She should have just asked "Did a Democrat file a motion to vacate? Because without that, nobody can vote to remove a speaker. Which party voted to change the rules to allow only one member to bring a motion to vacate, as opposed to a majority vote of members?"
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    Yes, I was telling her to ask him - could the democrats have removed him without R help? But she didn’t hear me, lol.
     
    This was posted 3 hours ago, so I’m not sure if it’s referring to additional reps who were not at the meeting or not…

     

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