Next Speaker of the House? (16 Viewers)

[MT15]

There’s a lot of doubt that Kevin McCarthy will be able to get enough votes to become Speaker. It certainly won’t happen on the first ballot. Already Boboert and MTG are publicly at odds over it.

Maybe this is worth it’s own thread to watch. One person mentioned is Scalise.

 

[Incumbent]

This is doublespeak. GOP will not take any responsibility for their own mess.

It's maddening, even more so that there are people who fall for it.

 

[DaveXA]

Food for thought.

 

[Neworleansfan]

hmmmm

Oh that’s messed up. Good.

 

[superchuck500]

Food for thought.

“Republicans claim government is broken and then they get elected to prove it.” - PJ O’Rourke (rip)

 

[superchuck500]

Experts pounce on death threats against Jim Jordan foe: 'This is what authoritarians do'

A Republican lawmaker received "credible death threats" after switching her vote to oppose Jim Jordan for House speaker, prompting colleagues, reporters, and other experts to take them seriously.Rep. Mariannette Miller-Meeks (R-IA) received the threats following her vote against Rep. Jim Jordan...

www.rawstory.com

 

[V Chip]

This is doublespeak. GOP will not take any responsibility for their own mess.

She should have just asked "Did a Democrat file a motion to vacate? Because without that, nobody can vote to remove a speaker. Which party voted to change the rules to allow only one member to bring a motion to vacate, as opposed to a majority vote of members?"

 

[Taurus]

Experts pounce on death threats against Jim Jordan foe: 'This is what authoritarians do'

A Republican lawmaker received "credible death threats" after switching her vote to oppose Jim Jordan for House speaker, prompting colleagues, reporters, and other experts to take them seriously.Rep. Mariannette Miller-Meeks (R-IA) received the threats following her vote against Rep. Jim Jordan...

www.rawstory.com

If these Reps are anything like the contrarian, spiteful monkeys the rest of us are, this would only harden their resolve.

"...my wife and kids too? Not only will I never vote to make this walking rectum Speaker, if both of us go down a dark alley someday, only one of us is walking out."

 

[DaveXA]

Experts pounce on death threats against Jim Jordan foe: 'This is what authoritarians do'

A Republican lawmaker received "credible death threats" after switching her vote to oppose Jim Jordan for House speaker, prompting colleagues, reporters, and other experts to take them seriously.Rep. Mariannette Miller-Meeks (R-IA) received the threats following her vote against Rep. Jim Jordan...

www.rawstory.com

As of they didn't need more reasons not to deal with this guy. And...how the hell is he getting 200 votes from his party? I've been saying he'd be the absolute worst as Speaker and we're seeing good evidence of that. Trump has completely ruined American politics.

Well, maybe not, but he sure helped them get there.

 

[bird]

As of they didn't need more reasons not to deal with this guy. And...how the hell is he getting 200 votes from his party? I've been saying he'd be the absolute worst as Speaker and we're seeing good evidence of that. Trump has completely ruined American politics.

Well, maybe not, but he sure helped them get there.

Things had been sliding sideways for a long time. Imo, this latest is backlash against Obama being elected twice. McCain made the mistake of bringing the idiot Palin onto the national stage which helped paved the way for the rise of Trump. Politics is far too serious to have whack jobs flinging excrement to and fro.

 

[DaveXA]

Things had been sliding sideways for a long time. Imo, this latest is backlash against Obama being elected twice. McCain made the mistake of bringing the idiot Palin onto the national stage which helped paved the way for the rise of Trump. Politics is far too serious to have whack jobs flinging excrement to and fro.

Good points.

 

[superchuck500]

 

[Booker]

 

[Lapaz]

Name that candidate! You can't because that candidate doesn't exist.

The D's cannot nominate this fictional candidate because they would garner 0 Republican votes and the R's would not put such a candidate forward. I would throw a "gumbo party" if I am wrong on any of those scenarios but I won't be holding my breath.

Here is a list of Republicans that have voted at least 20% of the time with Biden and whose districts voted for Biden. For reference McCarthy voted with Biden 16.6%, and Jordan 5.4%, so any of these are improvements:

Brian Fitzpatrick, PA-1 = 5.8, 70.2% - closed
Maria Elvira Salazar, FL-27 = 3.2, 39.8% - closed
Don Bacon, NE-2 = 6.6, 34.2% - open
Young Kim, CA-39 = 10.1, 31% - open
David Valadao, CA-21 =10.9, 30.1% - open
Mike Garcia, CA-25 = 10.1, 24.8% - open
Michelle Steel, CA-48, 21.9% - open

Here is a list that voted with Biden at least 25% of the time, but Biden lost their district, but this means they are willing to vote with Democrats some times, despite the leanings of their district. For reference, Kinzinger voted with Democrafts 56.4%, and Cheney 26.8%, so that's close to the low end for reasonable Republicans, unless they face pressure from constituents:

Chris Smith, NJ-4 = -10.5, 36.8% - open to IN
David Joyce, OH-14 = -9.0, 36% - open
Andrew Garbarino, NY-2 = -4.0, 36%- closed
Nicole Malliotakis, NY-11 = -10.5, 29.8% - closed
Dan Newhouse, WA-4 = -18.2, 29.2% - open
Michael Turner, OH-10 = -4.4, 28.6% - open
Tom Cole, OK-4 = -33.0, 28.3% - partially closed
Carlos Gimenez, FL-26 = -5.6, 28.1% - closed
Tony Gonzales, TX-23 = -1.8, 26.3% - open
Mike Carey, OH-15 = -14.1, 25.7% - open
Mario Diaz-Balart, FL-25 = -23.0, 25.7% - closed
Jay Obernolte, CA-8 = -10.5, 25.4% - open
Mariannette Miller-Meeks, IA-2 = -4.0, 25.4% - open
Mike Simpson, ID-2 = -23.5, 25% - partially closed
Nancy Mace, SC-1 = -6.0, 24.8% - open

Of this group, I would tend to choose from among the group where Biden won, and a couple of them have gotten votes for speaker, namely Garcia and Valadao. Also from this list, 2 of them voted to impeach Trump: Newhouse and Valadao. This is what NPR said about Valadao: "He's the rare case of a member of Congress who touts his willingness to work with the other party. Of his vote for impeachment, he said: "President Trump was, without question, a driving force in the catastrophic events that took place on January 6." He added, "His inciting rhetoric was un-American, abhorrent, and absolutely an impeachable offense.""

Based on this, I think Valadao would be my choice for speaker. He is in a very safe district that would reward him for working with Democrats.

 

[superchuck500]

 

[superchuck500]

Here is a list of Republicans that have voted at least 20% of the time with Biden and whose districts voted for Biden. For reference McCarthy voted with Biden 16.6%, and Jordan 5.4%, so any of these are improvements:

Brian Fitzpatrick, PA-1 = 5.8, 70.2% - closed
Maria Elvira Salazar, FL-27 = 3.2, 39.8% - closed
Don Bacon, NE-2 = 6.6, 34.2% - open
Young Kim, CA-39 = 10.1, 31% - open
David Valadao, CA-21 =10.9, 30.1% - open
Mike Garcia, CA-25 = 10.1, 24.8% - open
Michelle Steel, CA-48, 21.9% - open

Here is a list that voted with Biden at least 25% of the time, but Biden lost their district, but this means they are willing to vote with Democrats some times, despite the leanings of their district. For reference, Kinzinger voted with Democrafts 56.4%, and Cheney 26.8%, so that's close to the low end for reasonable Republicans, unless they face pressure from constituents:

Chris Smith, NJ-4 = -10.5, 36.8% - open to IN
David Joyce, OH-14 = -9.0, 36% - open
Andrew Garbarino, NY-2 = -4.0, 36%- closed
Nicole Malliotakis, NY-11 = -10.5, 29.8% - closed
Dan Newhouse, WA-4 = -18.2, 29.2% - open
Michael Turner, OH-10 = -4.4, 28.6% - open
Tom Cole, OK-4 = -33.0, 28.3% - partially closed
Carlos Gimenez, FL-26 = -5.6, 28.1% - closed
Tony Gonzales, TX-23 = -1.8, 26.3% - open
Mike Carey, OH-15 = -14.1, 25.7% - open
Mario Diaz-Balart, FL-25 = -23.0, 25.7% - closed
Jay Obernolte, CA-8 = -10.5, 25.4% - open
Mariannette Miller-Meeks, IA-2 = -4.0, 25.4% - open
Mike Simpson, ID-2 = -23.5, 25% - partially closed
Nancy Mace, SC-1 = -6.0, 24.8% - open

Of this group, I would tend to choose from among the group where Biden won, and a couple of them have gotten votes for speaker, namely Garcia and Valadao. Also from this list, 2 of them voted to impeach Trump: Newhouse and Valadao. This is what NPR said about Valadao: "He's the rare case of a member of Congress who touts his willingness to work with the other party. Of his vote for impeachment, he said: "President Trump was, without question, a driving force in the catastrophic events that took place on January 6." He added, "His inciting rhetoric was un-American, abhorrent, and absolutely an impeachable offense.""

Based on this, I think Valadao would be my choice for speaker. He is in a very safe district that would reward him for working with Democrats.

It's likely a fantasy, but it would be a wild and welcome turn of events to see one of the impeachment votes get rewarded with Speaker . . . signaling a new coalition, pragmatic, anti-Trump government. It would not only be a turn in the name of justice but would be a major signal to the other members who align with the Trump wing only in self-preservation that they don't have to live like that anymore.

But it isn't going to happen, I don't think. Trump is so much weaker now but they continue to prop him up - acquiescing to a power he probably doesn't even have anymore.

 

[UriUT]

Jordan tries to back out of vote as GOPer faces death threats: report

"He's done," one Republican said after GOP moderates erupted over bullying and intimidation tactics.

www.salon.com

https://post.news/@/bkjwordplay/2Wz4ebUgJkDeRkuyJYIneZvb4vp

One of those conservatives, Rep. Chip Roy, R-Texas, fumed over the plan on Wednesday, arguing that it “represents an unforgivable step to coalition government & likely decimation in 2024.”

Ahh..the smell of zero sum thinking. Thank you oh so much newt, you cheating, morally bankrupt butt crevasse.

 

[bird]

Jordan tries to back out of vote as GOPer faces death threats: report

"He's done," one Republican said after GOP moderates erupted over bullying and intimidation tactics.

www.salon.com

https://post.news/@/bkjwordplay/2Wz4ebUgJkDeRkuyJYIneZvb4vp

Ahh..the smell of zero sum thinking. Thank you oh so much newt, you cheating, morally bankrupt butt crevasse.

Agree re: Newt.

Why that azzhat is treated as some sort of political elder statesman/wise man is beyond me. He is excrement, period.

As for Chip Roy? Just another butt crevasse.

 

[Lapaz]

It's likely a fantasy, but it would be a wild and welcome turn of events to see one of the impeachment votes get rewarded with Speaker . . . signaling a new coalition, pragmatic, anti-Trump government. It would not only be a turn in the name of justice but would be a major signal to the other members who align with the Trump wing only in self-preservation that they don't have to live like that anymore.

But it isn't going to happen, I don't think. Trump is so much weaker now but they continue to prop him up - acquiescing to a power he probably doesn't even have anymore.

It could require less than 5 Republicans if some Democrats lower the threshold by voting present and the rest of the Democrats supported Valadao. As an aside, the House should use ranked choice voting to elect their speaker. Then a speaker would get elected immediately.