This is what I mean by these guys being unserious people, they throw out name after name without any consensus! Yesterday he threw out trump's name in the first of three votes. Was that a serious attempt to get him elected SoH? These clowns are just playing games, the D's are right to sit back and watch, and wait for them to behave like serious adults.
I don’t believe him. If he had the votes he wouldn’t wait until 10 PM. He very well may have the votes by then, but he doesn’t have them right now or they’d be voting.
They're focusing on two more holdouts. They have one McCarthy supporter who hasn't been there that is supposed to be returning at 9PM (hence the adjournment until 10PM), but they still need to either flip or get some rebels to vote present to lower the benchmark.
I think they're maybe waiting for a couple of members to fly back into town? I think I read that.
They're just now figuring these out aren't they? Lol. Kettles and pots and all that.
We need Democrats to unite with the remaining moderate Republicans to elect a Republican that wants government to function. Robert Reich made that argument in the attached article. He suggested Republicans Fred Upton or Ohio’s David Joyce. I've heard arguments to get a deal with McCarthy, but he is a sleazebag. This deal can eliminate some of the distasteful deals that McCarthy has agreed to put in place that the far right-wing Republicans have insisted upon. Democrats will need Jefferies to negotiate this deal, and then get him to convince Democrats. Some think that the far left will balk, but I think they are pragmatic. They will know that Upton or Joyce is far better than the far likelier alternatives.
House Democrats should unite with moderate Republicans to elect a speaker | Robert Reich
In exchange for backing a relatively moderate Republican such as Fred Upton or David Joyce as speaker, Democrats should demand they get equal seats on committeeswww.theguardian.com
I've heard others say that it's a fantasy, but moderate Republicans also don't want the far right Republicans to have a lot of control. The main barrier is convincing about a dozen of the 40 or so moderate Republicans to shift their support from McCarthy, since that could, and probably would, result in losing support of the RNC. Those moderate Republicans could establish a middle party along with moderate Democrats, but even if they don't, I think they could raise money based on their principles. Democrats could also negotiate concessions from McCarthy, but I would much rather they try to negotiate with a principled Republican.
That's the popular narrative that I hear, but there are a couple of dozen Republicans that have stood up to their party on other votes, like voting for the January 6th committee. They may initially lose the support of the RNC, but they would be doing more to save the Republican party than the cowards running it now, so I think they'll eventually get welcomed back, particularly since they will have the power. There may be a few Democrats that won't vote for any Republican, but I think almost all Democrats can be convinced, so it wouldn't be a 1 to 1 Republican gain to Democratic loss. Democrats should at least try to help centrist get more control. The only reason that Democrats may not press for this is that it will actually help the Republican party, but I hope they recognize that is the best thing for the country, and for Biden's agenda. It will prevent a 2 year nightmare of ridiculous, worthless and baseless investigations.
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