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    I am surprised there is not already a post about this. I am sure there are a lot of political comments to be made about this. My feeling is there needs to be something changed to restrict foreigners for doing harm to Americans.

    This hits close to home being we live just across the border in Alabama. The training planes fly over our house almost daily. I am wondering how many of these planes have Saudi's on them. Where I live at (RV Resort) about a third of my neighbors are retired military and go the base a lot. The Walmart that we go to is right outside one of the base gates.

    My nephew-in-law (Captain-Air Force) took my wife and I on a tour there last summer just prior to being sent to Hawaii. They were at Pearl Harbor when that shooting happened.
     
    This is a good point. I would be fine if we just suspended the entire program. We don’t need to be selling arms to Saudi Arabia anyway. Maybe if we started being serious about who we sell arms to that would be a good thing.
    This would be great, but the military industrial complex runs this country. This won't ever happen. When you travel to DC and see very major military manufacturer has an enormous building located in pissing distance of DC, then you know why.
     
    Something is finally being done. Who knows if any of these are connected to Iran in some way. As I stated before it would be easy to do a lot of damage with one of the trainer planes they are flying in over our heads all the time.

     
    Something is finally being done. Who knows if any of these are connected to Iran in some way. As I stated before it would be easy to do a lot of damage with one of the trainer planes they are flying in over our heads all the time.

    You do realize Iran and the Saudis are enemies. They are presently fighting each other in Yemen. Why is it so hard to place blame on the Saudis? The Saudis committed 9/11. The Saudis funded Isis. The Saudis are the largest sponsor of Islamic terrorism in the world.
     
    You do realize Iran and the Saudis are enemies. They are presently fighting each other in Yemen. Why is it so hard to place blame on the Saudis? The Saudis committed 9/11. The Saudis funded Isis. The Saudis are the largest sponsor of Islamic terrorism in the world.

    I agree, but the shooter's main reason for doing what he did was America was attacking Muslims in general. How many of these trainees would feel the same way after Solimani was killed? Enemies or not they are all Muslims and eventually they will stick together.
     
    I agree, but the shooter's main reason for doing what he did was America was attacking Muslims in general. How many of these trainees would feel the same way after Solimani was killed? Enemies or not they are all Muslims and eventually they will stick together.
    lol, 14 centuries on and that has yet to be true...


    And Saudi soldiers would almost certainly not be treating Soleimani as a martyr. He was the face of the enemy as they see it. As the above poster rightfully pointed out, the most pressing conflict has Iran and Saudi Arabia on opposite sides trying to control a desired client state in Yemen.

    It would also be much easier and helpful to simply recognize that America is not the good guy here. We simply picked sides in the region for reasons of self-interest and those sides are not very morally defensible either. All the hand-wringing about Iran can just as easily be made about Saudi Arabia.
     
    I agree, but the shooter's main reason for doing what he did was America was attacking Muslims in general. How many of these trainees would feel the same way after Solimani was killed? Enemies or not they are all Muslims and eventually they will stick together.

    That still doesn't explain your suggestion or implication that the Pensacola attacks are related to Iran.

    Iran is happy that Saudis are no longer going to be trained here.
     
    My point was not so much to say the trainees may do something due to the Solemani killing as much as they can be radicalized easily to do terrorist acts. By allowing them to fly planes is just asking for something worse than the shooting to happen.
     
    I agree, but the shooter's main reason for doing what he did was America was attacking Muslims in general. How many of these trainees would feel the same way after Solimani was killed? Enemies or not they are all Muslims and eventually they will stick together.

    The reported motivation for this guy's attack is his instructor repeatedly referring to him as "porn stache".
     
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    My point was not so much to say the trainees may do something due to the Solemani killing as much as they can be radicalized easily to do terrorist acts. By allowing them to fly planes is just asking for something worse than the shooting to happen.
    You honestly have a very offensive and naive understanding of the Middle East and people who reside there.

    Which may not be that surprising if your first choice in understanding the region is to seek out places like Fox News to inform your gaps in knowledge(as you did in the other thread). An outlet that is interested in selling the Republican brand and keeping their audience captured through fear and outrage, not adhering to the facts and context and letting that drive their output. An outlet that therefore sees more value and a path of lesser resistance to their mission by framing everything into simple narratives of good and bad and playing up scary caricatures.

    Which is obviously not very conducive to helping understand the complex grey history of Western/Middle-East relationships and empathizing and contextualizing the vast array of people that live in that large pocket of the world.
     
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    I thought Trump was anti-Muslim. Aren't the Saudis muslim?

    They're rich and paying us for using our kids to defend theirs.

    Conservative Rep. Justin Amash, who was a Republican until recently, responded to Trump’s remarks, saying, “He sells troops”

     
    For a minute there you had me, dtc. I was thinking “my little cannon” is a new euphemism that I’m not familiar with. Then I remembered you actually have a model cannon. 🤦‍♀️
     
    For a minute there you had me, dtc. I was thinking “my little cannon” is a new euphemism that I’m not familiar with. Then I remembered you actually have a model cannon. 🤦‍♀️
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    Shot it more than a dozen times on NYE!..

    It's loud with 150grains of powder.
     

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