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    Anxiety surges as Donald Trump may be indicted soon: Why 2024 is 'the final battle' and 'the big one'​

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    Anxiety surges as Donald Trump may be indicted soon: Why 2024 is 'the final battle' and 'the big one'

    Donald Trump's many legal problems – and calls for protests – have generated new fears of political violence and anxiety about the 2024 election.
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    WASHINGTON – It looks like American politics is entering a new age of anxiety, triggered by an unprecedented legal development: The potential indictment of a former president and current presidential candidate.

    Donald Trump's many legal problems – and calls for protests by his followers – have generated new fears of political violence and anxiety about the unknowable impact all this will have on the already-tense 2024 presidential election

    I’ll reframe this is a more accurate way, Are Presidents above the law? This new age was spurred into existence when home grown dummies elected a corrupt, mentally ill, anti-democratic, would be dictator as President and don’t bother to hold him responsible for his crimes, don’t want to because in the ensuing mayhem and destruction, they think they will be better off. The man is actually advocating violence (not the first time). And btw, screw democracy too. If this feeling spreads, we are In deep shirt.

    This goes beyond one treasonous Peice of work and out to all his minions. This is on you or should we be sympathetic to the idea of they can’t help being selfish suckers to the Nation’s detriment? Donald Trump is the single largest individual threat to our democracy and it‘s all going to boil down to will the majority of the GOP return to his embrace and start slinging his excrement to support him?
     
    Optimus Prime said:
    Donald Trump has vowed, repeatedly, to weaponize state power against his political enemies if granted a second term.


    Voters should take him at his word, for two reasons:

    First, he tried to do this before, marshaling government might against individuals, demographic groups and specific businesses. He was constrained only by courts and uncooperative aides.

    Second, he’s assembling the infrastructure necessary to clear these obstacles next time.


    In recent remarks, the former president has pledged to pulverize his opponents if he reenters the Oval Office. During an interview last week on Univision, for instance, he spoke of deploying the FBI and the rest of the Justice Department against political rivals in retaliation for their alleged persecution of him.

    “If I happen to be president, and I see somebody who’s doing well and beating me very badly, I say, ‘Go down and indict them,’” he said. “They’d be out of business. They’d be out of the election.”


    A few days later, in a Veterans Day address, he vowed as president to “root out the communists, Marxists, fascist and the radical-left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country.”

    This was no heat-of-the-moment slip; he blasted out the same phrasing on social media, too.


    This rhetoric would be horrifying even if one didn’t interpret it literally, given the history of authoritarian leaders who have compared disfavored groups to “vermin.” And it can be genuinely hard to know whether it’s useful to amplify such ugliness, since Trump thrives on attention.

    But voters deserve to know what Trump intends to accomplish in a second term. These words are not idle threats or “locker-room talk.” They are campaign promises and should be treated as such……

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    We should be worried that Trump will do what Biden has done to Trump?
     
    Optimus Prime said:
    So you feel all 91 indictments are baseless and just a partisan witch-hunt?

    Didn’t the Biden impeachment hearings prove to. E a huge waste of time?
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    The NYT Attorney General literally ran on indicting Trump. Do you think her trial isn't politically motivated?


    How's the special prosecutor on Biden's classified documents case going? It's funny we haven't heard much at all about him or the case.

    I'm open to seeing how they play out, but on the surface it looks like most are politically motivated.
     
    SaintForLife said:
    The NYT Attorney General literally ran on indicting Trump. Do you think her trial isn't politically motivated?


    How's the special prosecutor on Biden's classified documents case going? It's funny we haven't heard much at all about him or the case.

    I'm open to seeing how they play out, but on the surface it looks like most are politically motivated.
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    The Attorney General ran a campaign based on bringing a well-known white collar criminal to justice? Say it ain't so!
     
    SaintForLife said:
    We should be worried that Trump will do what Biden has done to Trump?
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    Trump already weaponized the DOJ and the IRS while he was in office. Biden hasn’t had any say in Trump’s prosecutions - Trump did it to himself. He’s always been someone who flaunts the law, and his money has insulated him from the consequences. Up until now. His criming has caught up with him.
     
    SaintForLife said:
    We should be worried that Trump will do what Biden has done to Trump?
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    You’re not a serious poster. I think you know better. If there weren’t mountains of evidence against Trump, he wouldn’t be indicted. Trump is guilty of even more things than what he’s been indicted for. Trump is suggesting indicting just because it would eliminate his rivals. He’s suggesting completely destroying Justice. He’s suggesting the opposite of making us great.
     
    Former President Trump's allies are pre-screening the ideologies of thousands of potential foot soldiers, as part of an unprecedented operation to centralize and expand his power at every level of the U.S. government if he wins in 2024, officials involved in the effort tell Axios.

    Why it matters: Hundreds of people are spending tens of millions of dollars to install a pre-vetted, pro-Trump army of up to 54,000 loyalists across government to rip off the restraints imposed on the previous 46 presidents.

    • The screening for ready-to-serve loyalists has already begun, driven in part by artificial intelligence from tech giant Oracle, contracted for the project.
    • Social media histories are already being plumbed.
    What's happening: When Trump took office in 2017, he included many conventional Republicans in his Cabinet and key positions. Those officials often curtailed his behavior and power.

    • Trump himself spends little time plotting governing plans. But he is well aware of a highly coordinated campaign to be ready to jam government offices with loyalists willing to stretch traditional boundaries.
    If Trump were to win, thousands of Trump-first loyalists would be ready for legal, judicial, defense, regulatory and domestic policy jobs. His inner circle plans to purge anyone viewed as hostile to the hard-edged, authoritarian-sounding plans he calls "Agenda 47."

    • The people leading these efforts aren't figures like Rudy Giuliani. They're smart, experienced people, many with very unconventional and elastic views of presidential power and traditional rule of law.
    Behind the scenes: The government-in-waiting is being orchestrated by the Heritage Foundation's well-funded Project 2025, which already has published a 920-page policy bookfrom 400+ contributors. Think of it as a transition team set in motion years in advance.

    • Heritage president Kevin Roberts tells us his apparatus is "orders of magnitude" bigger than anything ever assembled for a party out of power.
    • The policy series, "Mandate for Leadership," dates back to the 1980s. But Paul Dans, director of Project 2025, told us: "Never before has the entire movement ... banded together to construct a comprehensive plan to deconstruct the out-of-touch and weaponized administrative state."
    Project 2025 gets muscle from 80 partners, including Turning Point USA, led by MAGA star Charlie Kirk; the Center for Renewing America, headed by former Trump budget director Russ Vought; and American Moment, focused on young believers for junior positions.


     
    It’s easy to forget, given what unfolded four years later, the extent to which Donald Trump once claimed that he’d been the victim of voter fraud when he won in 2016.


    As was the case in 2020, his primary motivation was vanity. He was unquestionably pleased to have won the presidency, in part because he got to prove his doubters wrong. But it was frustrating that Hillary Clinton got more votes.

    So he pretended she hadn’t, amplifying nonsense about illegal votes in California and other places, claims that didn’t get much sustained attention because (1) they were obviously wrong and (2) it didn’t matter anyway.
Soon after taking office, though, he made an assertion worth revisiting.

    Speaking to a group of senators as he prepared to fill the Supreme Court vacancy he had inherited, Trump reportedly mentioned that he believed he would have won New Hampshire if “thousands” of people had not been bused into the state from Massachusetts to vote there.

    This was obviously not true. It was obviously not true first of all because it didn’t make any sense; New Hampshire had backed the Democrat in five of the six prior elections, including supporting Barack Obama twice by at least five percentage points.

    It was obviously not true, too, because busing thousands of people requires a lot of buses — a movement of buses that somehow escaped documentation.

    And it was obviously not true because analysis quickly demonstrated that it wasn’t. Trump had simply lost in the state.


    But this is how it works with Trump. He makes vague claims and, when he can, elevates “evidence” in support of those claims, although the evidence often proves illusory or contrived.

    Since one goal in 2016 in particular was to preserve his sense of his popularity, proof was less important than the sense that fraud maybe happened…….

     
    The nation’s largest Spanish-language media company, Univision, faced growing backlash Friday for its handling of a recent interview with former president Donald Trump, as major Latino advocacy groups delivered a letter of protest to the network’s executives and the Congressional Hispanic Caucus prepared to request a meeting with the network.

    Actor and comedian John Leguizamo, who recently took a turn as host of Comedy Central’s “The Daily Show,” also posted a video on Instagram on Thursday night calling for a boycott of the network until it stopped its rejection of Biden ads, some of which were canceled just before the Trump interview aired.

    “I am asking all my brothers and sisters who are actors, artists, politicians, activists to not go on Univision,” he said in a message in English and Spanish.

    The pushback comes after a Nov. 7 interview with Trump at his Mar-a-Lago Club in Florida that was arranged with the help of Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner and attended by a trio of senior executives at Univision’s parent company.

    The interview was notable for its gracious tone, lack of follow-up questions and Trump’s assertion in the first minutes about owners of the network.

    “They like me,” Trump said.

    It’s a sharp contrast to the long history of tension between Trump and Univision — a fact that alarmed both Democrats and journalists inside Univision……

     
    cuddlemonkey said:
    The Attorney General ran a campaign based on bringing a well-known white collar criminal to justice? Say it ain't so!
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    Please...we all know this is politically motivated and has nothing to do with the law. You know if Trump ran on a campaign of locking up his political opponents, his supporters would have told him not to do that because it was politically motivated, they surely wouldn't have chanted along for him to do just that.
     
    SaintForLife said:
    How's the special prosecutor on Biden's classified documents case going? It's funny we haven't heard much at all about him or the case.
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    I know, right? It's crazy that the trial that is actually going on right now is getting more out front news coverage than the one that is currently scheduled to start in May.

    It's not like there have been constant news stories about the efforts the judge (you know, the one Trump appointed) has been taking to ensure that the trial gets delayed.
     
    John F. Kelly, the longest-serving chief of staff in President Donald Trump’s White House, watches Trump dominate the GOP primary with increasing despair.


    “What’s going on in the country that a single person thinks this guy would still be a good president when he’s said the things he’s said and done the things he’s done?” Kelly said in a recent interview. “It’s beyond my comprehension he has the support he has.”


    Kelly, a retired four-star general, said he didn’t know what to do — or what he could do — to help people see it his way.

    “I came out and told people the awful things he said about wounded soldiers, and it didn’t have half a day’s bounce. You had his attorney general Bill Barr come out, and not a half a day’s bounce. If anything, his numbers go up. It might even move the needle in the wrong direction. I think we’re in a dangerous zone in our country,” he said.


    No president has ever attracted more public detractors who were formerly in his inner circle.

    They are closely watching his rise — cruising in the GOP nomination contest and, in most polls, tying or even leading President Biden in a general election matchup — with alarm. Among them are his former vice president, top military advisers, lawyers, some members of his Cabinet, economic advisers, press officials and campaign aides, some of whom are working for other candidates.


    Among their reasons for opposing a second Trump term, they cite the 91 criminal charges against him, his attempts to overturn the 2020 election, his false claims of election fraud, his incendiary rhetoric in office, his desire to weaponize the Justice Department, his chaotic management style, his likely personnel choices in a second term, and his affinity for dictators……
     
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    Optimus Prime said:
    John F. Kelly, the longest-serving chief of staff in President Donald Trump’s White House, watches Trump dominate the GOP primary with increasing despair.


    “What’s going on in the country that a single person thinks this guy would still be a good president when he’s said the things he’s said and done the things he’s done?” Kelly said in a recent interview. “It’s beyond my comprehension he has the support he has.”


    Kelly, a retired four-star general, said he didn’t know what to do — or what he could do — to help people see it his way.

    “I came out and told people the awful things he said about wounded soldiers, and it didn’t have half a day’s bounce. You had his attorney general Bill Barr come out, and not a half a day’s bounce. If anything, his numbers go up. It might even move the needle in the wrong direction. I think we’re in a dangerous zone in our country,” he said.


    No president has ever attracted more public detractors who were formerly in his inner circle.

    They are closely watching his rise — cruising in the GOP nomination contest and, in most polls, tying or even leading President Biden in a general election matchup — with alarm. Among them are his former vice president, top military advisers, lawyers, some members of his Cabinet, economic advisers, press officials and campaign aides, some of whom are working for other candidates.


    Among their reasons for opposing a second Trump term, they cite the 91 criminal charges against him, his attempts to overturn the 2020 election, his false claims of election fraud, his incendiary rhetoric in office, his desire to weaponize the Justice Department, his chaotic management style, his likely personnel choices in a second term, and his affinity for dictators……
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    Fox News, John.

    Watch a week of it, you won't see anything negative about Trump or anything positive about Biden.

    Fox viewers are barely aware that you and Barr exist.
     
    Donald Trump’s talk of punishing his critics and seeking to “weaponize” the US justice department against his political opponents has experts and former DoJ officials warning he poses a direct threat to the rule of law and democracy in the US.

    Trump’s talk of seeking “retribution” against foes, including some he’s branded “vermin”, has coincided with plans that Maga loyalists at rightwing thinktanks are assembling to expand the president’s power and curb the DoJ, the FBI and other federal agencies. All of it has fueled critics’ fears that in a second term Trump would govern as an unprecedentedly authoritarian American leader.

    Trump is currently the overwhelming favorite to win the Republican nomination for 2024 and has long maintained hefty polling leads over his party rivals. At the same time a slew of recent polls has also shown him ahead of president Joe Biden, including in key battleground states.

    But scholars and ex-justice officials see increasing evidence that if they achieved power again Trump and his Maga allies plan to tighten his control at key agencies and install trusted loyalists in top posts at the DoJ and the FBI, permitting Trump more leeway to exact revenge on foes, and shrinking agencies Trump sees as harboring “deep state” critics.

    Ominously, Trump has threatened to tap a special prosecutor to “go after” Biden and his family.

    Trump’s angry mindset was revealed on Veterans Day when he denigrated foes as “vermin” who needed to be “rooted out”, echoing Fascist rhetoric from Italy and Germany in the 1930s.

    “I’m hard pressed to find any candidates anywhere who are so open that they would use the power of the state to go after critics and enemies,” said Steven Levitsky, a Harvard government professor and co-author of How Democracies Die.

    “This is one of the most openly authoritarian campaigns I’ve ever seen. You have to go back to the far-right authoritarians in the 1930s in Europe or in 1970s Latin America to find the kind of dehumanizing and violent language that Trump is starting to consistently use.”……

    www.theguardian.com

    ‘Openly authoritarian campaign’: Trump’s threats of revenge fuel alarm

    Trump’s talk of seeking to ‘weaponize’ the DoJ and ‘retribution’ for opponents poses a direct threat to the rule of law and democracy in the US should he win a second term, experts say
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