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[Huntn]

Anxiety surges as Donald Trump may be indicted soon: Why 2024 is 'the final battle' and 'the big one'​

Anxiety surges as Donald Trump may be indicted soon: Why 2024 is 'the final battle' and 'the big one'

Donald Trump's many legal problems – and calls for protests – have generated new fears of political violence and anxiety about the 2024 election.

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WASHINGTON – It looks like American politics is entering a new age of anxiety, triggered by an unprecedented legal development: The potential indictment of a former president and current presidential candidate.

Donald Trump's many legal problems – and calls for protests by his followers – have generated new fears of political violence and anxiety about the unknowable impact all this will have on the already-tense 2024 presidential election

I’ll reframe this is a more accurate way, Are Presidents above the law? This new age was spurred into existence when home grown dummies elected a corrupt, mentally ill, anti-democratic, would be dictator as President and don’t bother to hold him responsible for his crimes, don’t want to because in the ensuing mayhem and destruction, they think they will be better off. The man is actually advocating violence (not the first time). And btw, screw democracy too. If this feeling spreads, we are In deep shirt.

This goes beyond one treasonous Peice of work and out to all his minions. This is on you or should we be sympathetic to the idea of they can’t help being selfish suckers to the Nation’s detriment? Donald Trump is the single largest individual threat to our democracy and it‘s all going to boil down to will the majority of the GOP return to his embrace and start slinging his excrement to support him?

 

[coldseat]

Think what you want. Everyone who disagrees with you is a racist or a bigot? You cant point to a single post of mine that is either one. That someone doesnt agree with you is all it takes. Thats plain ignorance. But that is your right.

I didn't call you a racist, you claimed that title all on your own.

All I did was to point out that your concern about "parental rights" in education was is really just a right wing crusade against race and gays with the objective of forcing Christianity on children. And to make people scared/outraged so that they would vote for Republicans. That touched a nerve for you. You may think to yourself that's not what it was about or why it was a voting issue for you, but when you dissect it and break break it down, that's all that movement was about.

 

[MT15]

Seems appropriate here.

 

[MT15]

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Unless I am mistaken the core issue is why a conservative such as myself could not or would not vote for Harris. I have said repeatedly that I dont see that she and I agree on much from a policy perspective. So whether they were all over the internet or not isnt the point.

We discussed school choice and parental rights as examples. I told you where I was on that. You told me where you come down on that issue. I‘m going to assume that Harris and you share the same basic view. So whether she spoke widely on the subject or not wont change the fact that we probably dont hold the same position on those two topics.

Is that a fair assumtion? Now we could go into other topics if you like. I listed several including the border among others but it safe to say that Harris D-CA has many left leaning policy positions that are at odds with this conservative from TN.

So to sum it up. I might be inclined to vote for a moderate Democrat like a Joe Manchin or Harold Ford. Those moderates dont get the nomination these days.

I think it is safe to say there isnt enough common ground between Harris and myself to justify supporting her with my vote.

You know what they say about people who assume, right? They're usually wrong because they ignored forking reality.

You were given her exact positions, and instead of reading them, you made assumptions instead. This is why people are struggling to give you the time of day right now. You refuse to acknowledge reality and blatantly insert your own assumptions as fact. They aren't fact. They're bullshirt, just like everything else you spew.

 

[Ayo]

As far as education, specifically, I support parental rights to be made aware of things that affect their children. Kids are not property of the state. Secondly, I favor school choice.

"Parental rights" is a canard amplified by bad faith actors in the political and activist sphere. What do you want to know about that you don't know about? Where's the alarm and concern coming from? Nobody believes kids are "property of the state." Most people don't even know what that means. I do. Working with kids at the youth prison and then being told that I could not work with them any longer because they were wards of the state, THAT'S "state property" and what you're spreading here is an exaggeration.

When it comes to school choice, that's another populist phrase that's generally pretty meaningless in terms of actual policy. Why do you favor school choice? There are a lot of reasons people list, so I won't make any presumptions - but I'd guess that whatever it is, I could shed some very specific light on things.

 

[Ayo]

I didn't call you a racist, you claimed that title all on your own.

All I did was to point out that your concern about "parental rights" in education was is really just a right wing crusade against race and gays with the objective of forcing Christianity on children. And to make people scared/outrage so that they would vote for Republicans. That touched a nerve for you. You may think to yourself that's not what it was about or why it was a voting issue for you, but when you dissect it and break break it down, that's all that movement was about.

Much of the school choice evolution in the South revolves around two things: faith and ethnicity. Parents want their kids in faith-based schools, and the more conservative, the better. A relative of mine interviewed for a position, for a Charter School in Lake Charles, to teach 5th grade science. She was asked about her thoughts on evolution and, after her answer, they asked if she would say that in class. She said, "Of course." It is science, after all.

She did not get the job, and wouldn't have taken it if offered.

There is also a *very* strong dynamic that is tied closely to race. I am making no judgments on anyone in this thread but the fact is that school choice popularity in the rural/South especially is because white parents don't want their kids attending schools with Black kids. It's prominent.

That's not to say that every school choice advocate does so because of that, but pretending that it isn't an issue is only ignoring a major facet of its populist appeal.

 

[TampaJoe]

Wait a sec. The fact that Trump wanted the bill killed in order to campaign on border reform is, indeed, a fact. Do you acknowledge it or do you choose to stick to your own constructed reality?

I dont dispute that Trump didnt like thebill and the bill didnt pass. Not sure what you mean by constructed reality.

 

[TampaJoe]

I didn't call you a racist, you claimed that title all on your own.

All I did was to point out that your concern about "parental rights" in education was is really just a right wing crusade against race and gays with the objective of forcing Christianity on children. And to make people scared/outrage so that they would vote for Republicans. That touched a nerve for you. You may think to yourself that's not what it was about or why it was a voting issue for you, but when you dissect it and break break it down, that's all that movement was about.

Your implication was quite clear. You are not fooling anyone claiming otherwise.

 

[TampaJoe]

I didn't call you a racist, you claimed that title all on your own.

All I did was to point out that your concern about "parental rights" in education was is really just a right wing crusade against race and gays with the objective of forcing Christianity on children. And to make people scared/outrage so that they would vote for Republicans. That touched a nerve for you. You may think to yourself that's not what it was about or why it was a voting issue for you, but when you dissect it and break break it down, that's all that movement was about.

You never bothered to ask about my concerns. You made an assumption based on nothing but your own bias and ignorance. I have my own personal opinion on the matter. Im not much for “movements”.

So you didnt bother to ask and made an assumtion without facts. That is ignorant.

 

[TampaJoe]

You know what they say about people who assume, right? They're usually wrong because they ignored forking reality.

You were given her exact positions, and instead of reading them, you made assumptions instead. This is why people are struggling to give you the time of day right now. You refuse to acknowledge reality and blatantly insert your own assumptions as fact. They aren't fact. They're bullshirt, just like everything else you spew.

So enlighten me and tell me what her position was on school choice and parental rights. I may be surprised to learn just how consrvative he really is.

 

[coldseat]

You never bothered to ask about my concerns. You made an assumption based on nothing but your own bias and ignorance. I have my own personal opinion on the matter. Im not much for “movements”.

So you didnt bother to ask and made an assumtion without facts. That is ignorant.

You can have whatever reason, opinion or concerns you belive, but if you're voting for Republicans because of school choice, then you're voting for what I described. That is what Republicans are doing with your vote.

 

[Optimus Prime]

The Trump administration has already spent $155 billion more than former President Joe Biden did over the same period of time after their inaugurations, according to Treasury Department data. And Elon Musk is now claiming that his Department of Government Efficiency has only managed to save $150 billion.

That means that despite tens of thousands of government workers being fired, agencies shuttered, contracts cut and federal services dramatically reduced, the current administration has already racked up an additional $5 billion of debt than the Biden administration in the same space of time.

And it’s not clear that DOGE has saved anywhere near $150 billion. Every time Musk posts “receipts” to show off DOGE’s savings, they’re riddled with errors.

He initially vowed to save $2 trillion by slashing government agencies and social benefits, than halved that to $1 trillion. Now he claims he has only cut a fraction of that.

The increased spending by the Trump administration was discovered in an analysis by the Wall Street Journal of daily financial statements issued by the Treasury Department.

Costs are continuing to climb even as Trump and the Republicans aim to negotiate a $5 trillion tax cut that’s expected to add an additional $5.7 trillion to the government’s debtover the next decade. The current debt is already $37.3 trillion.…….

Bigger hole: Trump has spent $155bn more than Biden. Musk claims he only save $150bn

The Trump administration has already spent $155 billion more than former President Joe Biden did over the same period of time after their inaugurations, according to Treasury Department data. And Elon Musk is now claiming that his Department of Government Efficiency has only managed to save $150...

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Optimus Prime]

You were given her exact positions, and instead of reading them, you made assumptions instead. This is why people are struggling to give you the time of day right now. You refuse to acknowledge reality and blatantly insert your own assumptions as fact. They aren't fact. They're bullshirt, just like everything else you spew.

He is just wasting peoples time and never debate in honesty.

 

[longtime lurker]

'Home Alone 2' director calls Trump cameo a 'curse,' jokes he'd be deported if he cuts it

"Home Alone 2: Lost in New York" director Chris Columbus called President Donald Trump's cameo in the film a "curse" that has followed him decades later.

www.yahoo.com

 

[cuddlemonkey]

I dont dispute that Trump didnt like thebill and the bill didnt pass. Not sure what you mean by constructed reality.

Lapaz asked you the following: "Do you acknowledge that Democrats and Harris wanted to pass conservative immigration legislation, but it was blocked by Trump's backers to create an issue to bash Democrats?"

Your answer: "I acknowledge that an immigration bill did not pass in an election year."

This implies that you do not acknowledge what Lapaz asked, which was if you acknowledged Trump's role in it, which is well documented. Acknowledging Trump's involvement in the bill being squashed is acknowledging reality. Failing to do so is more evidence that you don't comport with reality. It's a simple question, Joe.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

So enlighten me and tell me what her position was on school choice and parental rights. I may be surprised to learn just how consrvative he really is.

Every single thing you have posted has been addressed already. Your failure to comprehend basic sentences and statements is nobody's fault but your own.

 

[TampaJoe]

Lapaz asked you the following: "Do you acknowledge that Democrats and Harris wanted to pass conservative immigration legislation, but it was blocked by Trump's backers to create an issue to bash Democrats?"

Your answer: "I acknowledge that an immigration bill did not pass in an election year."

This implies that you do not acknowledge what Lapaz asked, which was if you acknowledged Trump's role in it, which is well documented. Acknowledging Trump's involvement in the bill being squashed is acknowledging reality. Failing to do so is more evidence that you don't comport with reality. It's a simple question, Joe.

I havent read the bill so I do not know that I would agree with Lapaz characterization of the legislation as “conservative”. I do acknowledge what is widely known. Trump did not like the legislation and so stated and it failed as a result. What more do you need?

 

[TampaJoe]

Every single thing you have posted has been addressed already. Your failure to comprehend basic sentences and statements is nobody's fault but your own.

Not really. But suffice it to say that there are differences between my position on school choice and parental rights and Harris‘s position. She isnt, as another poster has characterized, an “old time republican”. Failure to recognize that is nobodys fault but your own.