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    Anxiety surges as Donald Trump may be indicted soon: Why 2024 is 'the final battle' and 'the big one'​

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    Anxiety surges as Donald Trump may be indicted soon: Why 2024 is 'the final battle' and 'the big one'

    Donald Trump's many legal problems – and calls for protests – have generated new fears of political violence and anxiety about the 2024 election.
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    WASHINGTON – It looks like American politics is entering a new age of anxiety, triggered by an unprecedented legal development: The potential indictment of a former president and current presidential candidate.

    Donald Trump's many legal problems – and calls for protests by his followers – have generated new fears of political violence and anxiety about the unknowable impact all this will have on the already-tense 2024 presidential election

    I’ll reframe this is a more accurate way, Are Presidents above the law? This new age was spurred into existence when home grown dummies elected a corrupt, mentally ill, anti-democratic, would be dictator as President and don’t bother to hold him responsible for his crimes, don’t want to because in the ensuing mayhem and destruction, they think they will be better off. The man is actually advocating violence (not the first time). And btw, screw democracy too. If this feeling spreads, we are In deep shirt.

    This goes beyond one treasonous Peice of work and out to all his minions. This is on you or should we be sympathetic to the idea of they can’t help being selfish suckers to the Nation’s detriment? Donald Trump is the single largest individual threat to our democracy and it‘s all going to boil down to will the majority of the GOP return to his embrace and start slinging his excrement to support him?
     
    cuddlemonkey said:
    I'm not being dishonest. You are just too ignorant to follow the discussion. Let me see if I can make it easier for you to understand.

    In post #2425, you said that you are worried about the US "being in the basement in education when compared to other industrialized nations".

    In post #2427, I responded by pointing out that the religious right and the GOP are playing a major role in that, including an effort to dismantle the Department of Education.

    In post #2428, you said "Education has been a problem for decades and across administrations and across congresses". This was a criticism of the US Department of Education in response to a conversation about failing educational standards.

    In post #2432, I asked you to highlight how the Department of Education has had a detrimental impact on curriculum.

    In post #2433, you reiterated that "our education system ranks at the bottom of industrialized nations. So whatever the DOE and the administrations have been doing hasn’t worked". What you did not do was answer my question from post #2432.

    In post #2436, I pointed out your failure to answer based on your lack of knowledge.

    In post #2438, you tripled down on the notion that "We rank at the bottom of industrialized nations in education. So if DOE is adding value, it isn’t evident."

    In post #2441, someone educated you on the fact that the US Department of Education has nothing to do with setting curriculum.

    In post #2451, you said that you "didn’t blame the Feds", which is directly contradicted by post #2428.

    In post #2456, I repeated my question from post #2432. Armed with the information that the Department of Education has nothing to do with setting curriculum, you ignored me instead of admitting that you were mistaken to correlate educational standards with the makeup of recent congresses and White House administrations.

    Just in case this is still too hard for you to follow:

    I mentioned the GOP assault on various education-related institutions, including the US Department of Education. You then falsely correlated educational standards to the US Department of Education. When pressed, you couldn't actually say why. When told that the Department of Education has nothing to do with any of that, you ignored it and kept going. And as a bonus, you've also failed to support your claim that the US is "in the basement in education when compared to other industrialized nations".
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    coldseat said:
    Who controls that state and has for the whole time you've lived there? Who decides how much money the school district gets? Who controls the educational standards for the school districts in your state? That's who you should be pissed at.
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    Oh boy, since TampaJoe can't get a source for rankings here is a good one:


    Tennesse is in the bottom percentile of funding.

    This dude is blaming the DoE/Memphis city government instead of his Republican state government. I'm shocked.
     
    President Donald Trump’s phone conversations with the two British prime ministers who served during his first term were apparently so madcap that they left staff at Number 10 Downing Street in tears.

    According to a report in Politico, any conversation between the then-president and the two occupants of Number 10 from 2017 to 2021 — Theresa May and Boris Johnson — were appointment listening for civil servants and other aides in the PM’s orbit, with staff making a point to gather in a secure room or the prime minister’s private study to hear them speak with the American leader.

    One former Downing Street source described the conversations as “extraordinary” and “brilliant” — the latter meant more sarcastically — and said those who were present were “there with tears [of] laughter” because the calls were “hilarious.”

    Another former British government official who worked in Number 10 at the time said any planned agenda for the arranged call between the two leaders would “quite quickly fall by the wayside” because Trump would simply change the subject to whatever was on his mind.

    Trump would reportedly go off on wide-ranging and long-winded tangents on a variety of subjects close to his heart but not exactly germane to the Anglo-American Special Relationship, including his hatred of wind turbines, his Scottish golf property, or matters that prime ministers simply could not discuss because they were the subject of court proceedings............

    www.the-independent.com

    Trump’s calls with British leaders reportedly left staff crying from laughter

    Trump has not yet spoken with Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer since taking office on Monday
    www.the-independent.com www.the-independent.com
     
    J-DONK said:
    MANAGE is not a synonym for FUNDING

    https://www.thesaurus.com/ for some help.
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    That’s true. But funding required to run the school system is set and determined by the folks who manage that school system. The state and local government have funded requests made by the school board. We have new modern school buildings across the city. So it isn’t lack of funding.

    You can make that assumption if you choose. But it assumes a uniform cost structure across every school district which doesn’t exist.
     
    TampaJoe said:
    In Memphis, it hasn’t been a matter of finding. They have gotten funding. We funded new schools all over the city. So I’m not interested in increased funding for a system that isn’t improving outcomes. That was my point.

    If you ask for money to solve a problem and you get that money but don’t solve the problem, what do you expect? More money? We’ve been down that road several times with no change in results. It’s time to ask why and consider alternatives to the current model.

    The GAP between high performers and low performers is quite large. I don’t worry as much about wealthy kids in private schools. I worry about the thousands of kids in inner city schools that can’t think or reason for themselves without a smart phone. They can’t do basic math. They do not read or speak well. They can’t interview or fill out a job application. What happens to those kids who drop out and think a GED will get them thru the rest of their lives. These are the taxpayers of the future. You comfortable with that?
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    In my area we have a catholic inner city school program targeted at embracing low income families. Funded by state vouchers, grants, and tuition( families with means). Low income are covered by vouchers and grants. Also, state funding for after school daycare for low income. Breakfast and lunch and after school healthy snacks. These kids matriculate to effective private high schools they would never experience before the program started. The head of the local public super magnet school has commended the program for the quality of students he sees coming out of the program. State education funds very effectively spent. An effective option for low income who value education.
     
    Sendai said:
    In my area we have a catholic inner city school program targeted at embracing low income families. Funded by state vouchers, grants, and tuition( families with means). Low income are covered by vouchers and grants. Also, state funding for after school daycare for low income. Breakfast and lunch and after school healthy snacks. These kids matriculate to effective private high schools they would never experience before the program started. The head of the local public super magnet school has commended the program for the quality of students he sees coming out of the program. State education funds very effectively spent. An effective option for low income who value education.
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    Do that school accept non - christians?
     
    Sendai said:
    It’s a school system. Many schools. And yes, any are welcome.
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    One of my friend’s granddaughters attends a Catholic school in Nashville, and her mother (the child’s parent) was called to a meeting because the family had not been attending mass. While they are Christians, they are former Catholics.

    This raises an important point: even if a religious school provides a quality education, its focus on teaching and enforcing specific religious practices makes it unsuitable for all families. Some parents may not want their children to be indoctrinated into a particular faith, especially if it conflicts with their own beliefs or values.

    Religious schools often serve a specific community, which is their right. However, it also underscores the importance of public schools that provide an inclusive education free from religious mandates, ensuring that all children—regardless of their faith or lack thereof—have equal access to learning opportunities without feeling pressured to conform to a particular ideology.
     
    President Trump on Friday defended the removal of Dr. Anthony Fauci’s security detail, suggesting former government officials should not get indefinite security, even as Fauci and others whose protections have been cut this week have faced threats.

    “When you work for government, at some point your security detail comes off. And you know, you can’t have them forever. So, I think it’s very standard,” Trump told reporters in North Carolina.

    Asked if he would feel partially responsible if something were to happen to Fauci, Trump said he would not, adding that Fauci and others could hire private security.

    “You know, they all made a lot of money. They can hire their own security, too,” Trump said. “Certainly I would not take responsibility.”

    Fauci declined to comment on Trump’s remarks.

    The New York Times first reported that Trump ended Fauci’s security detail, which was being provided by the National Institutes of Health.

    Sources close to the situation confirmed to The Hill that Fauci’s security detail was abruptly ended on Thursday night, and that he would be paying for his own security detail moving forward................


     
    TampaJoe said:
    So it isn’t lack of funding.

    You can make that assumption if you choose. But it assumes a uniform cost structure across every school district which doesn’t exist.
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    I'm going to just talk about this. I don't know what's wrong with you. I'm guessing it's overall reading comprehension.

    I provided data that shows funding is absolutely part of the issue. You can make the argument that their are other factors.

    What you can't say is "funding is not an issue" without backing that up. You need data. You should be able to go find how much Memphis spends per student. You are making the claim. Back it up. You've already been caught lying about facts on this topic in this thread. Find some facts that back up your opinion.

    Maybe a map with colors will help you understand.

     
    Optimus Prime said:
    President Trump on Friday defended the removal of Dr. Anthony Fauci’s security detail, suggesting former government officials should not get indefinite security, even as Fauci and others whose protections have been cut this week have faced threats.

    “When you work for government, at some point your security detail comes off. And you know, you can’t have them forever. So, I think it’s very standard,” Trump told reporters in North Carolina.

    Asked if he would feel partially responsible if something were to happen to Fauci, Trump said he would not, adding that Fauci and others could hire private security.

    “You know, they all made a lot of money. They can hire their own security, too,” Trump said. “Certainly I would not take responsibility.”

    Fauci declined to comment on Trump’s remarks.

    The New York Times first reported that Trump ended Fauci’s security detail, which was being provided by the National Institutes of Health.

    Sources close to the situation confirmed to The Hill that Fauci’s security detail was abruptly ended on Thursday night, and that he would be paying for his own security detail moving forward................


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    So let me get this straight: he released 1,600 people from jail, including some who are extremely violent and dangerous. Some of them might even harbor grudges, given how Trump has expressed his feelings about former members of his and the former administration. And now he’s removing the security details for those very same individuals?

    What could possibly go wrong with that? It’s not just reckless—it’s borderline criminal. This kind of decision puts lives at risk, undermines public safety, and shows a staggering lack of responsibility or foresight.
     
    Sendai said:
    Not throwing anything away. It adds nothing to the education system except costs. States don’t need the Department of Education. Get rid of the cost of rather worthless compliance requirements. Take the operating costs of the Department of Education and add it to the congressional allocations and distribute to the states. More funding. It’s an organization that is nothing but overhead and pushing paper. As I said, it’s not upping our game. And it never will.
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    I don't disagree with you that there's cost to the bureaucracy at ED but what do you mean by "add it to the congressional allocations and distribute to the states"? That's not a thing - there's no legal basis or actual practice of Congress simply appropriating federal money directly to the states. The federal government provides money to the states via federal grants administered by the relevant grant program - and that means someone has to administer them in some fashion.

    The reality is that administering the federal education grant system is what ED does. If you look at the department's budget breakdown, just under $700M of the agency's $275B budget goes to "department management" (link below) - the rest is distributed in various forms. There's certainly room to argue about compliance, efficiency, etc. when it comes to the Education Department but this idea that it is nothing but overhead and pushing paper is (and I'm being nice here) substantially misplaced. How can a budget that results in distribution of the vast majority of what it receives from Congress be considered nothing more than overhead and admin? It's just wrong.

    Could there be - instead of this kind of system - a basic grant program that takes big round lump sums and simply transfers them directly to the states with no other conditions or controls? Yes - but isn't a grant program with parameters and compliance a better way to spend money? Isn't it likely that without compliance measures, states would just use the money for whatever they see fit, perhaps even misuse it? Isn't it true that a school system in inner New York or Philadelphia may have different resource needs and priorities than a school system in rural Alabama or in tribal South Dakota? Certainly compliance and controls can get overly-burdensome but isn't the better approach to reign them in rather than to just toss them aside entirely?

    And lastly, a substantial portion of the ED's grant allocations don't go to states but to individuals (financial aid) and to various NGO programs that are providing direct educational benefits on the ground in the United States and are able to do so due to federal grants. About 14% of K-12 funding the US is federal dollars - which is substantial but not existential - but there's so much more that ED does. If you end ED in favor of direct, lump sum grants to states, that all goes away.

    The biggest problem with this whole MAGA push to eliminate the Education Department is that - like so much of MAGA - it is foolishly undereducated about how things actually work and based on suppositions that are often just not accurate. You can get rid of ED but some aspect of the executive branch still has to administer whatever you replace it with - and stripping it down to a lump sum state grant is going to throw a lot of other valuable education assistance out the door.


    usafacts.org

    What does the Department of Education do? | USAFacts

    Founded in 1980, the Department of Education primarily funds student financial aid and K-12 programs.
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