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[Huntn]

Anxiety surges as Donald Trump may be indicted soon: Why 2024 is 'the final battle' and 'the big one'​

Anxiety surges as Donald Trump may be indicted soon: Why 2024 is 'the final battle' and 'the big one'

Donald Trump's many legal problems – and calls for protests – have generated new fears of political violence and anxiety about the 2024 election.

www.yahoo.com

WASHINGTON – It looks like American politics is entering a new age of anxiety, triggered by an unprecedented legal development: The potential indictment of a former president and current presidential candidate.

Donald Trump's many legal problems – and calls for protests by his followers – have generated new fears of political violence and anxiety about the unknowable impact all this will have on the already-tense 2024 presidential election

I’ll reframe this is a more accurate way, Are Presidents above the law? This new age was spurred into existence when home grown dummies elected a corrupt, mentally ill, anti-democratic, would be dictator as President and don’t bother to hold him responsible for his crimes, don’t want to because in the ensuing mayhem and destruction, they think they will be better off. The man is actually advocating violence (not the first time). And btw, screw democracy too. If this feeling spreads, we are In deep shirt.

This goes beyond one treasonous Peice of work and out to all his minions. This is on you or should we be sympathetic to the idea of they can’t help being selfish suckers to the Nation’s detriment? Donald Trump is the single largest individual threat to our democracy and it‘s all going to boil down to will the majority of the GOP return to his embrace and start slinging his excrement to support him?

 

[MT15]

Oh, and I’m all for streamlining departments and eliminating unnecessary paperwork. But if you follow the GOP lead, it will weaken education further for the most disadvantaged kids.

 

[Lapaz]

It doesn’t seem to be raising our game. It has, however, over the years driven up administrative costs to satisfy, at times, unnecessary compliance.

You think Alabama and Louisiana will improve education without any help? I don’t. The states that do best are not just coincidentally blue states. They also receive the least aid. They can probably do fine, but it will make it harder for all to maintain standards.

 

[TampaJoe]

You do know the neither the DoE nor the DoED have anything to do with setting school curriculum??? That is the responsibility of the states, the DoED was established because certain states neglected certain members of their populace by not funding education in their areas.

The DoED began augmenting and monitoring funding to Education systems throughout the US as well as monitoring their performance and ensuring access. So when you complain about failing schools, you need to direct you anger at your local government and stop blaming the Feds.

I didn’t blame the Feds. I said we rank poorly as compared to other industrialized nations. Someone else suggested or associated the DoE with this thread suggesting that the plan to cut the DoE was a reason for the ranking. Prior to that I didn’t mention the DoE.

I asked the poster who mentioned the DoE to demonstrate that the DoE adds value. I never got an answer.

 

[J-DONK]

8th in reading and 15th in science. What is your point? You’re willing to throw away an entire education system because math isn’t where it should be?

This is ridiculous even for you.

Same site also has a education index that has America ranked 13tth.

Hey @Sendai, and @TampaJoe still waiting on a source.

 

[J-DONK]

I didn’t blame the Feds. I said we rank poorly as compared to other industrialized nations. Someone else suggested or associated the DoE with this thread suggesting that the plan to cut the DoE was a reason for the ranking. Prior to that I didn’t mention the DoE.

I asked the poster who mentioned the DoE to demonstrate that the DoE adds value. I never got an answer.

Why would anyone discuss these topics with you? You have no idea what you are talking about, and don't care.

 

[MT15]

This is a good discussion about what we are facing now. I don’t agree with every single thing he says, but I think he gets it mostly right.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

It doesn’t seem to be raising the game. It has, however, over the years driven up administrative costs to satisfy, at times, unnecessary compliance

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“Study: Regulatory Compliance Costs Higher Ed $27B Per Year”​

NASFAA | Study: Regulatory Compliance Costs Higher Ed $27B Per Year

www.nasfaa.org

“Rising Tide of Education Rules Increase Costs”

Rising Tide of Education Rules Increase Costs - AAF

The growth in higher education costs is hardly a secret to parents and students. As evidenced by findings of a recent survey commissioned by the American Action Forum that found 92 percent of respondents agreed that college is too expensive. Published tuition and fees have outpaced inflation and...

www.americanactionforum.org

PISA Scores By Country 2025

www.datapandas.org

34th in math.

It’s real.

That wasn't my question. What I asked was this: "Can you please highlight some of the ways the Department of Education impacts curriculum and some of the things that the last few presidential administrations have done that have had a detrimental impact on that curriculum?"

 

[cuddlemonkey]

I would ask you to tell us all the wonderful things DOE has done to advance education in the US and improve outcomes. But that would be a waste of time.

We rank at the bottom of industrialized nations in education. So if DOE is adding value, it isn’t evident. Feel free to prove me wrong.

You must have misunderstood the question. I will ask it again: "Can you please highlight some of the ways the Department of Education impacts curriculum and some of the things that the last few presidential administrations have done that have had a detrimental impact on that curriculum?"

What you said has nothing to do with the Department of Education's impact on curriculum (or educational standards, textbooks, graduation criteria, etc).

This was your claim: "What I know is that our education system ranks at the bottom of industrialized nations. So whatever the DOE and the administrations have been doing hasn’t worked."

I am asking you to support your claim. Can you do that with actual evidence and facts?

 

[cuddlemonkey]

I didn’t blame the Feds. I said we rank poorly as compared to other industrialized nations. Someone else suggested or associated the DoE with this thread suggesting that the plan to cut the DoE was a reason for the ranking. Prior to that I didn’t mention the DoE.

I asked the poster who mentioned the DoE to demonstrate that the DoE adds value. I never got an answer.

That was me. Your response ("Education has been a problem for decades and across administrations and across congresses. So you can’t lay that at the feet of a single party or a single administration") demonstrated that you have no idea what the Department of Education actually does, despite other posters spelling it out for you.

 

[coldseat]

Elon couldn’t leave well enough alone
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The Anti-Defamation League spoke out on Thursday over a series Nazi Germany-themed puns posted by billionaire Elon Musk, slamming what it called “inappropriate and highly offensive jokes that trivialize the Holocaust.”

Musk's post contained the names of several German leaders who engineered the Holocaust in a Thursday morning post to X. The Tesla CEO and Donald Trump confidant was clearly trying to prod people who criticized his appearance at Trump's inauguration. During his speech, Musk used a gesture that fascism experts labeled a “Nazi salute.”

“Don’t say Hess to Nazi accusations!” the X owner said. "Bet you did Nazi that coming."

In a quote-tweet, ADL CEO Johnathan Greenblatt warned Musk that it was “inappropriate and offensive to make light of..a singularly evil event.”

“Making inappropriate and highly offensive jokes that trivialize the Holocaust only serve to minimize the evil and inhumanity of Nazi crimes, denigrate the suffering of both victims and survivors and insult the memory of the six million Jews murdered in the Shoah,” the ADL said in a statement from its official account.

The ADL had defended Musk earlier in the week, saying his stiff-armed salute was “an awkward gesture in a moment of enthusiasm.” Musk made the gesture before telling the crowd that “the future of civilization is assured,” a phrase critics noted resembled the neo-Nazi “14 Words,” a slogan the ADL classifies as a hate symbol.

Other Jewish groups disputed the defense, including Bend the Arc, a progressive Jewish action group that circulated a petition calling for the ADL to revoke its defense.…….

"Highly offensive": ADL sours on Musk over puns that "trivialize the Holocaust"

The Anti-Defamation League excused Musk for making a gesture experts called a Nazi salute earlier this week

www.salon.com

Called that. Didn't even take a few days.

 

[Dragon]

What I know is that our education system ranks at the bottom of industrialized nations. So whatever the DOE and the administrations have been doing hasn’t worked. So I might ask the DOE to justify their existence and the resources they consume.

When something isn’t working and hasn’t been working for decades, it’s time to examine other alternatives to the status quo.

I personally don’t care if the educational delivery system is public or private as long as it accomplishes its primary mission to educate. I am not interested in maintaining a bureaucracy that isn’t accomplishing it’s primary mission.

Being a school teacher is often a low-paid job that comes with significant risks and personal expenses.

Why are teachers expected to pay for school materials out of their own pockets?

Why do teachers have to fear losing their jobs—or even facing harassment—if a parent disagrees with the curriculum?

Why do so many talented educators ultimately leave the profession?

Additionally, after-school programs, which could help ease the burden, often come with high costs, making them inaccessible to many families.

The United States also has some of the longest working hours in the western world, leaving many parents with little time or energy to assist their children with homework.

These challenges disproportionately affect children from lower-income families, exacerbating existing inequalities in education and opportunity.

 

[MT15]

We’re still waiting for proof that the US educational system is the worst in the industrialized world. Haven’t seen anything to support that statement yet.

 

[MT15]

What is clear to me however is that the GOP in many states wants to dismantle public education. Which will help create a permanent underclass, imo, which seems to be the intent. Only those who can afford it will get an adequate education.

 

[Optimus Prime]

Donald Trump has tasked the attorney general in two executive orders to conduct far-reaching investigations into the previous administration, using the weight of the justice department to pursue what are effectively politically charged reviews into his personal grievances.

The orders the president signed on Monday to end the “weaponization of the federal government” and the “government censorship of speech” in the Biden administration directed the attorney general to review actions over the last four years and prepare a final report.…….

Trump enlists attorney general to investigate Biden administration

President has thrown weight of justice department behind two politically charged reviews into his personal grievances

www.theguardian.com

 

[TampaJoe]

Oh, and I’m all for streamlining departments and eliminating unnecessary paperwork. But if you follow the GOP lead, it will weaken education further for the most disadvantaged kids.

Maybe. Maybe not. That’s why you ask questions and have hearings and debates. If the DoE adds value then it should easily be able to justify the cost.

I has been suggested by another poster that the DoE doesn’t control the curriculum but rather supports and provides funds to disadvantaged districts.

My question would be how are those districts performing? Do we need another layer of bureaucracy to fund those districts. Why not just block grant the states that need funding.

I spent 35 years in Memphis. A Democrat controlled city, mayor and city council, school superintendents, etc. I have listened year after year to these folks talk about their plans to improve inner city schools. And yet little has changed in 35 years. Lack of education is one factor that traps people in poverty. Many of those trapped in those schools want better for themselves and their children and they deserve choices; alternatives to remaining in a failing school.

I as a taxpayer funded that for decades. How many more decades do we need to wait on change because another 35 years of the same ole thing isn’t the answer. Time for something different.

 

[TampaJoe]

That was me. Your response ("Education has been a problem for decades and across administrations and across congresses. So you can’t lay that at the feet of a single party or a single administration") demonstrated that you have no idea what the Department of Education actually does, despite other posters spelling it out for you.

What did I say that wasn’t true? Hasn’t education been a problem for decades across multiple congressional sessions and administrations managed by both parties?

Your comment seemed to suggest that this is all Republicans. And it isn’t. I certainly didn’t say that nor did I imply that. I didn’t mention the Department of Education. You did. I never brought it up. So you misrepresented what I said.

So who is being dishonest now? Perhaps you should live by your own standards.

 

[coldseat]

I spent 35 years in Memphis. A Democrat controlled city, mayor and city council, school superintendents, etc. I have listened year after year to these folks talk about their plans to improve inner city schools. And yet little has changed in 35 years. Lack of education is one factor that traps people in poverty. Many of those trapped in those schools want better for themselves and their children and they deserve choices; alternatives to remaining in a failing school.

I as a taxpayer funded that for decades. How many more decades do we need to wait on change because another 35 years of the same ole thing isn’t the answer. Time for something different.

Who controls that state and has for the whole time you've lived there? Who decides how much money the school district gets? Who controls the educational standards for the school districts in your state? That's who you should be pissed at.

 

[wardorican]

Give me a break. Education has been a problem for decades and across administrations and across congresses. So you can’t lay that at the feet of a single party or a single administration.

YOUR ability to ignore reality is terrifyingly impressive. And sad.

Education isn't any one thing all across the board. Most schools are just fine. Some are problematic. Painting with a broad brush is just stupid.

Again, its people with no clue. Likely haven't had kids in school for years trying to exercise an opinion devoid of facts or first hand knowledge. And they're the loudest voices.