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[Huntn]

Anxiety surges as Donald Trump may be indicted soon: Why 2024 is 'the final battle' and 'the big one'​

Anxiety surges as Donald Trump may be indicted soon: Why 2024 is 'the final battle' and 'the big one'

Donald Trump's many legal problems – and calls for protests – have generated new fears of political violence and anxiety about the 2024 election.

www.yahoo.com

WASHINGTON – It looks like American politics is entering a new age of anxiety, triggered by an unprecedented legal development: The potential indictment of a former president and current presidential candidate.

Donald Trump's many legal problems – and calls for protests by his followers – have generated new fears of political violence and anxiety about the unknowable impact all this will have on the already-tense 2024 presidential election

I’ll reframe this is a more accurate way, Are Presidents above the law? This new age was spurred into existence when home grown dummies elected a corrupt, mentally ill, anti-democratic, would be dictator as President and don’t bother to hold him responsible for his crimes, don’t want to because in the ensuing mayhem and destruction, they think they will be better off. The man is actually advocating violence (not the first time). And btw, screw democracy too. If this feeling spreads, we are In deep shirt.

This goes beyond one treasonous Peice of work and out to all his minions. This is on you or should we be sympathetic to the idea of they can’t help being selfish suckers to the Nation’s detriment? Donald Trump is the single largest individual threat to our democracy and it‘s all going to boil down to will the majority of the GOP return to his embrace and start slinging his excrement to support him?

 

[TampaJoe]

This point of view makes no sense from anyone who isn't a progressive. Which I seriously doubt you are. I view Corp Dems as the lesser of two evils, but centrist? I have no idea what you are qualifying.

The worst thing you will get is pro-trade, pro-corporation stable admin.

If you have long term concerns about: housing, inflation, healthcare, and income inequality. You won't find solutions to any of those issues from Republicans.

I assume this view is coded for you are socially conserative, and abortion really matters that much to you.

I am more of a moderate socially. I did not support overturning Roe. I also don’t support a nationwide ban.

As for the other issues you mention, I share many of those same concerns. I just don’t believe government solves everything nor do I trust it to do so. Major changes should be bipartisan and shouldn’t be by narrow majorities. Neither party is all that interested in reaching such agreements. They are more interested in going to DC to “fight” for the values of whatever base constituency they represent. Nobody goes there anymore to just do the work and reach agreements. That’s too hard and it gets you primaried.

In the end. Nothing changes. We go from wave election to wave election to “take our country back”.

 

[J-DONK]

I am more of a moderate socially. I did not support overturning Roe. I also don’t support a nationwide ban.

As for the other issues you mention, I share many of those same concerns. I just don’t believe government solves everything nor do I trust it to do so. Major changes should be bipartisan and shouldn’t be by narrow majorities. Neither party is all that interested in reaching such agreements. They are more interested in going to DC to “fight” for the values of whatever base constituency they represent. Nobody goes there anymore to just do the work and reach agreements. That’s too hard and it gets you primaried.

In the end. Nothing changes. We go from wave election to wave election to “take our country back”.

This isn't your real opinion.

There is no way someone in American who pays any attention to politics thinks Democrats aren't accomodating, or willing to work with Republcians.

Republicans refuse to work with Democrats on real issues. Republicans also aren't going to actually fix their wedge issues like the border. Republicans do want the current stagnation of legislation. That is by design.

We live in America's second gilded age. We have worse income inequality then the 1920s. The current admin is a billionaire with a cabinet, and advisors of billionaires. All they need is for things to not change. Republcians are never going to work with Democrats to pass any reform to the current system. It's working perefectly for them. They continue to own, and control a larger portion of the countries wealth everyday.

 

[coldseat]

Me for the next four years

 

[cuddlemonkey]

I am more of a moderate socially. I did not support overturning Roe. I also don’t support a nationwide ban.

As for the other issues you mention, I share many of those same concerns. I just don’t believe government solves everything nor do I trust it to do so. Major changes should be bipartisan and shouldn’t be by narrow majorities. Neither party is all that interested in reaching such agreements. They are more interested in going to DC to “fight” for the values of whatever base constituency they represent. Nobody goes there anymore to just do the work and reach agreements. That’s too hard and it gets you primaried.

In the end. Nothing changes. We go from wave election to wave election to “take our country back”.

Everything you say here- keeping Roe intact, no national abortion ban, working across the aisle to enact legislation for the people- are clearly things that the Democratic party represents. Either you are 100% lying or your echo chamber is so loud that you can't hear reality screaming at you.

 

[MT15]

I also didn’t vote for Harris because I would worry as much about her as I worry about Trump.

You chastised me when I said you view Harris as equally unfit as Trump. You said “don’t put words in my mouth”. And here you are explicitly admitting you view them as equally bad. I knew you felt that way, but I’m glad to see you finally admit it.

Now if we could only find out why.

 

[TampaJoe]

You chastised me when I said you view Harris as equally unfit as Trump. You said “don’t put words in my mouth”. And here you are explicitly admitting you view them as equally bad. I knew you felt that way, but I’m glad to see you finally admit it.

Now if we could only find out why.

No. They are different people. I don’t have confidence in either one. Doesn’t mean they are equally bad. Just means that IMO neither one of them should have that job.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Pardoned a traitor to the United States and denigrates a life-long servant to this nation.

WASHINGTON, Jan 20 (Reuters) - The Pentagon on Monday removed the portrait of Mark Milley, the retired Army general and former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, according to two Reuters witnesses, in a move that happened within two hours of President Donald Trump's inauguration.
The Pentagon did not immediately respond to a question about why the portrait was removed days after its unveiling.
Trump had deep resentment toward Milley, and once called him "slow moving and thinking" and a "moron." Hours earlier, former President Joe Biden had issued a preemptive pardon to Milley and others Trump had targeted for potential retaliation.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/pentagon-removes-portrait-mark-milley-former-top-us-general-2025-01-20/

 

[Optimus Prime]

 

[Optimus Prime]

John Bolton's Secret Service protection discontinued by Trump administration

The Trump administration removed former national security adviser John Bolton's Secret Service protection. The decision was made in the past 24 hours, sources said.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

John Bolton's Secret Service protection discontinued by Trump administration

The Trump administration removed former national security adviser John Bolton's Secret Service protection. The decision was made in the past 24 hours, sources said.

www.cbsnews.com

Bolton, an outspoken critic of President Trump, was granted Secret Service protection by the Biden administration in December 2021 for the first time since he served in the Trump White House. That decision followed a series of threats from Iran linked to retaliation for a drone strike ordered by Mr. Trump during Bolton's tenure, resulting in the assassination Iranian General Qasem Soleimani.

In his statement today, Bolton added, "That threat remains today, as also demonstrated by the recent arrest of someone trying to arrange for President Trump's own assassination. The American people can judge for themselves which President made the right call."

Above all, the President's 1st duty is to protect its citizens, especially if that individual is a target of a nation state.

 

[SystemShock]

Not in my view. But you do you and I’ll do me.

I’m not going to pull the lever for someone I cannot or do not support. This isn’t the Price is Right. There is more to the job than simply being marginally better that the bottom of the class.

Logically, it makes sense to vote for the "lesser evil".

You have a problem, and you have choice A and choice B.
Choice A does nothing to solve the problem.
Choice B makes the problem worse.
Logically, you'd want to choose A to not make things worse.

This scenario happened in 2016, and happened again in 2024. Many liberals/democrats felt the candidates didn't pass the purity test, and either voted for Jill Stein or not at all. Now they're crying over what's happening.

 

[TampaJoe]

Logically, it makes sense to vote for the "lesser evil".

You have a problem, and you have choice A and choice B.
Choice A does nothing to solve the problem.
Choice B makes the problem worse.
Logically, you'd want to choose A to not make things worse.

This scenario happened in 2016, and happened again in 2024. Many liberals/democrats felt the candidates didn't pass the purity test, and either voted for Jill Stein or not at all. Now they're crying over what's happening.

Well this isn’t a binary choice. Not in my view. Choosing someone who in your view isn’t qualified or fit for the position, isn’t logical. Voting is an affirmation of support. Choosing someone you do not support or cannot support isn’t logical.

But you vote by whatever logic makes sense to you and I will do the same. If that means not voting in an election then I won’t vote. If I go into a restaurant and I don’t like or want the food on the menu. I don’t order something I don’t want. That isn’t logical. If you want to do so for whatever reason, you go ahead.

 

[superchuck500]

 

[brandon]

Well this isn’t a binary choice.

Yes, it is, no matter how much you or anyone else wishes it wasn’t.

 

[TampaJoe]

Yes, it is, no matter how much you or anyone else wishes it wasn’t.

It’s not. Simply a fact. No matter how much you or anyone else wishes it was.

Fact is millions of people didn’t vote in this election that did vote in the previous election. Someone here stated that the Dems should look into that. So if enough people don’t buy into accepting whatever either party decides to offer up, one or the both of them might give some thought into trying step up their game.

We are an evenly divided nation. Roughly 1/3 on each side and 1/3 in the middle. Maybe if enough folks continue to declare as independents, somebody might start to pay attention. Who knows. One can only hope.

 

[Lapaz]

It’s not. Simply a fact. No matter how much you or anyone else wishes it was.

Fact is millions of people didn’t vote in this election that did vote in the previous election. Someone here stated that the Dems should look into that. So if enough people don’t buy into accepting whatever either party decides to offer up, one or the both of them might give some thought into trying step up their game.

We are an evenly divided nation. Roughly 1/3 on each side and 1/3 in the middle. Maybe if enough folks continue to declare as independents, somebody might start to pay attention. Who knows. One can only hope.

Binary means 2 options are viable. There were only 2 people that could viably win. Explain how that isn’t binary.

 

[TampaJoe]

Binary means 2 options are viable. There were only 2 people that could viably win. Explain how that isn’t binary.

Binary means I only have two choices. It means the voters have only two choices. In fact there were more than three options as I see it. Trump, Harris, 3rd Party or none of the above. To you there may only be two viable choices. To me, not voting for either was a viable choice. As I said, voting is an affirmation of support. None of the above is a perfectly acceptable choice.

Maybe therein lies the problem. The parties believe that people have to choose one or the other. They don’t. As we just witnessed. They don’t. They don’t have to vote. They don’t have to choose the lesser of two evils. They have other options. If you candidate doesn’t represent them or their values, they don’t have to vote. Maybe to them the only viable option is to say “none of the above”?

 

[superchuck500]

hero of the common man!