Is Russia about to invade Ukraine? (2 Viewers)

[superchuck500]

Russia continues to mass assets within range of Ukraine - though the official explanations are that they are for various exercises. United States intelligence has noted that Russian operatives in Ukraine could launch 'false flag' operations as a predicate to invasion. The West has pressed for negotiations and on Friday in Geneva, the US Sec. State Blinken will meet with the Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov.

Certainly the Russian movements evidence some plan - but what is it? Some analysts believe that Putin's grand scheme involves securing Western commitments that NATO would never expand beyond its current composition. Whether that means action in Ukraine or merely the movement of pieces on the chess board remains to be seen.

VIENNA — No one expected much progress from this past week’s diplomatic marathon to defuse the security crisis Russia has ignited in Eastern Europe by surrounding Ukraine on three sides with 100,000 troops and then, by the White House’s accounting, sending in saboteurs to create a pretext for invasion.

But as the Biden administration and NATO conduct tabletop simulations about how the next few months could unfold, they are increasingly wary of another set of options for President Vladimir V. Putin, steps that are more far-reaching than simply rolling his troops and armor over Ukraine’s border.

Mr. Putin wants to extend Russia’s sphere of influence to Eastern Europe and secure written commitments that NATO will never again enlarge. If he is frustrated in reaching that goal, some of his aides suggested on the sidelines of the negotiations last week, then he would pursue Russia’s security interests with results that would be felt acutely in Europe and the United States.

There were hints, never quite spelled out, that nuclear weapons could be shifted to places — perhaps not far from the United States coastline — that would reduce warning times after a launch to as little as five minutes, potentially igniting a confrontation with echoes of the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis.

Russia Issues Subtle Threats More Far-Reaching Than a Ukraine Invasion

If the West fails to meet its security demands, Moscow could take measures like placing nuclear missiles close to the U.S. coastline, Russian officials have hinted.

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Blinken Will Meet With Russia as U.S. Pushes for More Diplomacy

Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken will meet with Foreign Minister Sergey V. Lavrov of Russia in Geneva on Friday as the United States warns that Russia could soon attack Ukraine.

www.nytimes.com

How to think about war in Ukraine

Start with the Ukrainians

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[DaveXA]

Without Ukraine present, US and Russia lay “groundwork” for “historic investment” in Ukraine.

Complete trash agreement. The EU/NATO needs to ensure that Ukraine is protected from this nonsense. US/Russia are basically colluding to steal what rightfully belongs to Ukraine. Fork Trump and fork Poots. This sheet is beyond the pale.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Without Ukraine present, US and Russia lay “groundwork” for “historic investment” in Ukraine.

Yeah, remember how those bilateral talks between the US and the Taliban worked out for the Afghans?

 

[Dragon]

Without Ukraine present, US and Russia lay “groundwork” for “historic investment” in Ukraine.

Sounds very much like the agreement Russia and Germany made when they decided to divide Poland among themselves

 

[efil4]

Now is the time, if i were Zelensky, to convene the EU and China to talks on cooperation and peace.

Do not wait. Do not worry about what the US thinks. Tell Kellogg to turn his plane around and fly back to US today. His presence is not needed at this time.

i cant believe im going to be on the wrong side of history in my lifetime.

i cant believe the complete turnaround that the Republican party has done re Russia. I cant.

Trump was talking to Putin well before the election. This groundwork was already laid out in 2024. Now its starting to come to fruition.

Im speechless. Im disgusted. Im embarrassed and saddened by the appeasement to dictators over democracy.

This is a preview folks. Get ready as we are moving away from a democracy under Trump. Dont be surprised to see him challenge the 2 term rule in 2027.

Uh FARKIN amazing.

 

[zztop]

The Telegraph obtained a copy- here are the terms

pure extortion. Thats really the only way to describe what i just read.

I am ashamed right now that my POTUS et al had the gall to even draft this and put in the hands of another countrys President to sign.

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When you look at it through the lens of Don running things like a mafia boss (just like putin) it all makes sense

 

[J-DONK]

Complete trash agreement. The EU/NATO needs to ensure that Ukraine is protected from this nonsense. US/Russia are basically colluding to steal what rightfully belongs to Ukraine. Fork Trump and fork Poots. This sheet is beyond the pale.

I think it's more then likely they EU blows this up. They already give more then America.

If you hated Trump, and wanted to really make him look like an idiot. You wait until they announce some deal with Russia. Within the next 24 hours, you announce some massive aide package, or troops.

It wasn't a talking point to say Ukraine is not American satellite.

 

[efil4]

I think it's more then likely they EU blows this up. They already give more then America.

If you hated Trump, and wanted to really make him look like an idiot. You wait until they announce some deal with Russia. Within the next 24 hours, you announce some massive aide package, or troops.

It wasn't a talking point to say Ukraine is not American satellite.

Opening bid.

Trump et al on the clock. You want mineral rights? Because as of right now Europe wants them ( and stability and security ) to the tune of $700B

 

[DaveXA]

I think it's more then likely they EU blows this up. They already give more then America.

If you hated Trump, and wanted to really make him look like an idiot. You wait until they announce some deal with Russia. Within the next 24 hours, you announce some massive aide package, or troops.

It wasn't a talking point to say Ukraine is not American satellite.

Indeed. Only the Trump/Poots lemmings believe that, so Ukraine has a decent chance of getting not only the EU aboard, but very possibly China.

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Without Ukraine present, US and Russia lay “groundwork” for “historic investment” in Ukraine.

Saying our current administration "isn't well read" would be a massive understatement!

"...lay the groundwork for future cooperation on matters of mutual geopolitical interest"

How could ANYONE utter these words when speaking of Russia and their geopolitical goals???? Man, all of these guys are STUPID!

 

[superchuck500]

 

[efil4]

does it matter any longer? I mean its on record and a mere 3 years apart. So we know this "change in attitude" is Rubio aligning with Trump/MAGA agenda, regardless of what he truly feels. He has to conform with party.

 

[DaveXA]

does it matter any longer? I mean its on record and a mere 3 years apart. So we know this "change in attitude" is Rubio aligning with Trump/MAGA agenda, regardless of what he truly feels. He has to conform with party.

Classic case of party over country. If the lemmings can't see it...they stay lemmings I guess.

 

[efil4]

Classic case of party over country. If the lemmings can't see it...they stay lemmings I guess.

thats just it. we think of them as "lemmings" or "Sheep" or some other linguistic term that down-plays the role these people are playing within this Administration.

They arent blind and fully capable of understanding the agenda and ramifications.

They are beyond lemmings/sheep/cult members. They are complicit.

 

[DaveXA]

thats just it. we think of them as "lemmings" or "Sheep" or some other linguistic term that down-plays the role these people are playing within this Administration.

They arent blind and fully capable of understanding the agenda and ramifications.

They are beyond lemmings/sheep/cult members. They are complicit.

Absolutely.