How Trump Could Lose the Election—And Still Remain President (1 Viewer)

[Mr. Blue Sky]

Not far-fetched.. Not even a little bit.

https://www.newsweek.com/how-trump-could-lose-election-still-remain-president-opinion-1513975

 

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Trump not ready to commit to election results if he loses

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump is refusing to publicly commit to accepting the results of the upcoming White House election, recalling a similar threat he made weeks before the 2016 vote, as he scoffs at polls showing him lagging behind Democrat Joe Biden.

apnews.com

hmm

I like this comment though: The Biden campaign responded: “The American people will decide this election. And the United States government is perfectly capable of escorting trespassers out of the White House.”

 

[Lapaz]

The military would never allow it to happen. If push came to shove, the military would forcibly remove Trump.

I don't think the military would intervene as long as it appears he's behaving within the law. The scenario laid out in the article seems to indicate that this is a grey but legal area. That would be enough to keep the military out of it. If this scenario played out, I think at least a few of the Republican state delegations would vote against Trump, because even they would realize that this would be the end of the American experiment. I know they are partisan when it suits them, but I still think most are patriotic, and this would be too much for many to swallow. Remember that Trump only has about a 40% approval, so some of those Republican delegations are purple enough to do the right thing.

 

[RushRoom]

Not far-fetched.. Not even a little bit.

https://www.newsweek.com/how-trump-could-lose-election-still-remain-president-opinion-1513975

He is not going to lose the election.

(mod edit) JOE has nothing to run on. He is senile. And the LAST thing he wants is to run on the record of his eight years with Obama because today we are seeing the SAME results with the economy.

This lockdown is just reminding us how bad it was under Obama.

On Election Night, (mod edit) JOE will make that call to President Trump around 9:30 after discovering he has lost his own home state. He'll be reading his concession from a pad his handlers wrote for him.

 

[brandon]

He is not going to lose the election.

JOE has nothing to run on. He is senile. And the LAST thing he wants is to run on the record of his eight years with Obama because today we are seeing the SAME results with the economy.

This lockdown is just reminding us how bad it was under Obama.

On Election Night, JOE will make that call to President Trump around 9:30 after discovering he has lost his own home state. He'll be reading his concession from a pad his handlers wrote for him.

Sad.

 

[RushRoom]

Sad.

Pretty much. It wasn't quite as sad when Walter Mondale lost in a landslide against Reagan. He was a four year loser in the Carter Machine. But he never had this many cognitive problems.

 

[RushRoom]

Trump not ready to commit to election results if he loses

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump is refusing to publicly commit to accepting the results of the upcoming White House election, recalling a similar threat he made weeks before the 2016 vote, as he scoffs at polls showing him lagging behind Democrat Joe Biden.

apnews.com

hmm

I like this comment though: The Biden campaign responded: “The American people will decide this election. And the United States government is perfectly capable of escorting trespassers out of the White House.”

Hillary tried that same idiotic comment shortly before she lost in a landslide.

And the WOKE left spent THREE YEARS trying to overturn the 2016 election.

Here's an original idea: SHUT UP, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. If Biden loses, HE LOST. Get over it.

And if you think for ONE second President Trump is going to need ANY prompting to get out of an exhausting job he has been doing for FREE and go back to the great life he had before he saved the country, you seriously have zero understanding of human nature.

 

[The moose]

Hillary tried that same idiotic comment shortly before she lost in a landslide.

And the WOKE left spent THREE YEARS trying to overturn the 2016 election.

Here's an original idea: SHUT UP, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. If Biden loses, HE LOST. Get over it.

And if you think for ONE second President Trump is going to need ANY prompting to get out of an exhausting job he has been doing for FREE and go back to the great life he had before he saved the country, you seriously have zero understanding of human nature.

Wow dude you are kinda fun.

First we are here for discussion. This place will certainly point out when you are not being factually correct.


I will start with the silly lie you believe. Trump lost the popular election by over 3 million. That is the exact opposite of a Landslide.

If you want to tone it down a great bit I am more than sure you can get along here. But yes when you make an argument please post a link so we can all read where you are getting info from.

Hope you and your family are doing well in this pandemic!

 

[RushRoom]

Wow dude you are kinda fun.

Oh, I promise you we'll have a lot of fun. People don't go to political message boards for any reason other than to argue politics. These places provide an alternative to someone throwing his/her shoe at the TV. They probably prevent a lot of fist fights (although in some major blue cities, that concept doesn't seem to be working any more.) I'll present views that certain ideologues will (a) disagree with, (b) absolutely hate, (c) become triggered enough to order my arrest by the thought police.

First we are here for discussion. This place will certainly point out when you are not being factually correct.

If I'm ever factually incorrect, I'm sure this place will.


I will start with the silly lie you believe. Trump lost the popular election by over 3 million. That is the exact opposite of a Landslide.

Oh I have no doubt he probably lost a straw poll by a landslide, too. He likely lost a poll taken by coffee drinkers at Starbucks. Thing is, neither of those items has EVER decided an American presidential election.

I know this is inconvenient, but Article II, Section 1 is very clear about the importance of any popular vote.

https://constitution.findlaw.com/article1.html


If you want to tone it down a great bit I am more than sure you can get along here. But yes when you make an argument please post a link so we can all read where you are getting info from.

I'm pretty much along the lines with the other tones I've seen here. And I would ask that you hold everyone to the same standards as the ones you want me to abide by. So far, I've disagreed with some people. Maybe not all the time, but I certainly have provided reliable sources to back up my views. You just need to tell people who disagree with me to lighten up. If they lose an argument, it's not the same as getting cancer, having a heart attack or being in a car crash.


Hope you and your family are doing well in this pandemic!

Most families are. Back at ya.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

Hillary tried that same idiotic comment shortly before she lost in a landslide.

And the WOKE left spent THREE YEARS trying to overturn the 2016 election.

Here's an original idea: SHUT UP, ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. If Biden loses, HE LOST. Get over it.

And if you think for ONE second President Trump is going to need ANY prompting to get out of an exhausting job he has been doing for FREE and go back to the great life he had before he saved the country, you seriously have zero understanding of human nature.

Just out of curiosity, what made Trump's victory a landslide? He lost the popular vote and his percentage of EC votes won is 46th out of 58 elections.

 

[B4YOU]

It would never get to the level of the military. Electors cast votes in Dec and Congress certifies in early Jan. After Jan 20 inauguration, the secret service would remove an ex-president who refused to leave.

The bigger issues would be if a state sent 2 different electors or if Congress refused to certify the results. I could see Democrats refusing to certify if we see a massive drop in inner city votes due to no polling stations or massive mail-in ballot rejection. Republicans are dead set against mail in ballots because Covid will drop the urban vote. We could see a 300% increase in mail-in votes. Nationally, 300,000 mail-in ballots are rejected. So if in 2020 some 1M ballots mostly from urban areas get rejected, I could Dems protesting. Swing states could easily be lost due to mail-in ballots.

How Wisconsin's 23,000 Rejected Absentee Ballots Could Spell Trouble For The November Election

For months, President Donald Trump has alleged without evidence that any expansion of mail-in voting in the 2020 election will lead to “tremendous” fraud and a “rigged” election. But an […]

www.wpr.org

 

[RushRoom]

Just out of curiosity, what made Trump's victory a landslide? He lost the popular vote and his percentage of EC votes won is 46th out of 58 elections.

He probably lost a few straw polls at some coffee shops here and there. But as the United States Constitution has pointed out in Article II, Section One, the popular vote is irrelevant.

Algore won the popular vote but lost to Bush in the Electoral College.

Grover Cleveland won the popular vote but lost to Benjamin Harrison in the Electoral College.

And considering the point spread ALL the polls were ginning up, all of them giving Hillary a landslide victory, I'd say her loss is a MAJOR landslide event.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

He probably lost a few straw polls at some coffee shops here and there. But as the United States Constitution has pointed out in Article II, Section One, the popular vote is irrelevant.

Algore won the popular vote but lost to Bush in the Electoral College.

Grover Cleveland won the popular vote but lost to Benjamin Harrison in the Electoral College.

And considering the point spread ALL the polls were ginning up, all of them giving Hillary a landslide victory, I'd say her loss is a MAJOR landslide event.

Please explain how having one of the 10-12 closest EC margins in history is a landslide, especially in light of losing the popular vote.

 

[The moose]

He probably lost a few straw polls at some coffee shops here and there. But as the United States Constitution has pointed out in Article II, Section One, the popular vote is irrelevant.

Algore won the popular vote but lost to Bush in the Electoral College.

Grover Cleveland won the popular vote but lost to Benjamin Harrison in the Electoral College.

And considering the point spread ALL the polls were ginning up, all of them giving Hillary a landslide victory, I'd say her loss is a MAJOR landslide event.

Ok by definition landslide is

an overwhelming majority of votes for one party in an election.

"winning the election by a landslide"

Come on man the popular vote is factual. He lost it. So yes a looser can't win anything by a landslide and never will be a winner by a landslide. That is the exact opposite of a landslide.

So did you get that a looser can't win anything by a landslide. I seem to see his victory like a football team that looses on all the stats yet comes out on top with a little help. Kinda like pootie is the help.

You know kinda like that pass interference no call in the NFC championship game.

Oh by the way I love typing trump is a looser. So if you want to continue I am down for typing trump is a looser as many times as it takes.

 

[RushRoom]

Ok by definition landslide is

an overwhelming majority of votes for one party in an election.

"winning the election by a landslide"


According to the United States Constitution, it is a majority of ELECTORAL COLLEGE votes. And Trump CREAMED Hillary in that regard.


Come on man the popular vote is factual. He lost it. So yes a looser can't win anything by a landslide and never will be a winner by a landslide. That is the exact opposite of a landslide.

Straw polls may be factual. Getting opinions in a coffee shop may be factual. But according to the United States Constitution, they are IRRELEVANT.

So did you get that a looser can't win anything by a landslide. I seem to see his victory like a football team that looses on all the stats yet comes out on top with a little help. Kinda like pootie is the help.

Trump won the only landslide that counts, according to the Constitution.

You know kinda like that pass interference no call in the NFC championship game.

Oh by the way I love typing trump is a looser. So if you want to continue I am down for typing trump is a looser as many times as it takes.

Truthfully, I've lost all interest in football after those idiot players began taking a knee.

If it pleases you to type that Trump is looser (although you haven't specified looser than what) by all means type away.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

According to the United States Constitution, it is a majority of ELECTORAL COLLEGE votes. And Trump CREAMED Hillary in that regard.

Once more, Trump's margin of victory was one of the 12 or so closest of all time. That's bottom 20% in terms of margins of victory. How is that a landslide?

 

[brandon]

Presidents by percentage of electoral votes earned: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...dential_elections_by_Electoral_College_margin

1.	1788-89	George Washington[e][f]	69	69	34	1.000[g]	100%
2.	1792	George Washington[e]	132	132	77	1.000[g]	100%
3.	1820	James Monroe[d]	232	231	1	0.991[g]	99.57%
4.	1936	Franklin D. Roosevelt	531	523	8	0.970	98.49%
5.	1984	Ronald Reagan	538	525	13	0.952	97.58%
6.	1972	Richard Nixon	538	520	17	0.933	96.65%
7.	1804	Thomas Jefferson	176	162	14	0.841	92.05%
8.	1864	Abraham Lincoln	233	212	21	0.820	90.99%
9.	1980	Ronald Reagan	538	489	49	0.818	90.89%
10.	1964	Lyndon B. Johnson	538	486	52	0.807	90.33%
11.	1932	Franklin D. Roosevelt	531	472	59	0.778	88.89%
12.	1956	Dwight D. Eisenhower	531	457	73	0.721	86.06%
13.	1852	Franklin Pierce	296	254	42	0.716	85.81%
14.	1940	Franklin D. Roosevelt	531	449	82	0.691	84.56%
15.	1816	James Monroe	217	183	34	0.687	84.33%
16.	1928	Herbert Hoover	531	444	87	0.672	83.62%
17.	1952	Dwight D. Eisenhower	531	442	89	0.665	83.24%
18.	1872	Ulysses S. Grant[c]	352	286	42	0.639	81.95%
19.	1912	Woodrow Wilson	531	435	88	0.638	81.92%
20.	1944	Franklin D. Roosevelt	531	432	99	0.627	81.36%
21.	1840	William Henry Harrison	294	234	60	0.592	79.59%
22.	1988	George H. W. Bush	538	426	111	0.584	79.18%
23.	1832	Andrew Jackson	286	219	49	0.531	76.57%
24.	1920	Warren G. Harding	531	404	127	0.522	76.08%
25.	1868	Ulysses S. Grant	294	214	80	0.456	72.79%
26.	1924	Calvin Coolidge	531	382	136	0.439	71.94%
27.	1904	Theodore Roosevelt	476	336	140	0.412	70.59%
28.	1996	Bill Clinton	538	379	159	0.409	70.45%
29.	1808	James Madison	175	122	47	0.394	69.71%
30.	1992	Bill Clinton	538	370	168	0.375	68.77%
31.	1828	Andrew Jackson	261	178	83	0.364	68.20%
32.	2008	Barack Obama	538	365	173	0.357	67.84%
33.	1908	William Howard Taft	483	321	162	0.329	66.46%
34.	1900	William McKinley	447	292	155	0.306	65.32%
35.	1892	Grover Cleveland	444	277	145	0.248	62.39%
36.	1844	James K. Polk	275	170	105	0.236	61.82%
37.	2012	Barack Obama	538	332	206	0.234	61.71%
38.	1896	William McKinley	447	271	176	0.213	60.63%
39.	1860	Abraham Lincoln	303	180	72	0.188	59.41%
40.	1812	James Madison	217	128	89	0.180	58.99%
41.	1856	James Buchanan	296	174	114	0.176	58.78%
42.	1888	Benjamin Harrison	401	233	168	0.162	58.10%
43.	1880	James A. Garfield	369	214	155	0.160	57.99%
44.	1836	Martin Van Buren	294	170	73	0.156	57.82%
45.	1948	Harry S. Truman	531	303	189	0.141	57.06%
46.	2016	Donald Trump	538	304	227	0.130	56.51%
47.	1960	John F. Kennedy	537	303	219	0.128	56.42%
48.	1848	Zachary Taylor	290	163	127	0.124	56.21%
49.	1968	Richard Nixon	538	301	191	0.119	55.95%
50.	1976	Jimmy Carter	538	297	240	0.104	55.20%
51.	1884	Grover Cleveland	401	219	182	0.092	54.61%
52.	2004	George W. Bush	538	286	251	0.063	53.16%
53.	1800	tie: Thomas Jefferson, Aaron Burrhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...ons_by_Electoral_College_margin#endnote_1800b

 

[Complex Kid]

Remember that time the Saints beat the Colts by the largest margin of victory ever in a Super Bowl? Good times.

 

[Complex Kid]

Presidents by percentage of electoral votes earned: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...dential_elections_by_Electoral_College_margin

1.	1788-89	George Washington[e][f]	69	69	34	1.000[g]	100%
2.	1792	George Washington[e]	132	132	77	1.000[g]	100%
3.	1820	James Monroe[d]	232	231	1	0.991[g]	99.57%
4.	1936	Franklin D. Roosevelt	531	523	8	0.970	98.49%
5.	1984	Ronald Reagan	538	525	13	0.952	97.58%
6.	1972	Richard Nixon	538	520	17	0.933	96.65%
7.	1804	Thomas Jefferson	176	162	14	0.841	92.05%
8.	1864	Abraham Lincoln	233	212	21	0.820	90.99%
9.	1980	Ronald Reagan	538	489	49	0.818	90.89%
10.	1964	Lyndon B. Johnson	538	486	52	0.807	90.33%
11.	1932	Franklin D. Roosevelt	531	472	59	0.778	88.89%
12.	1956	Dwight D. Eisenhower	531	457	73	0.721	86.06%
13.	1852	Franklin Pierce	296	254	42	0.716	85.81%
14.	1940	Franklin D. Roosevelt	531	449	82	0.691	84.56%
15.	1816	James Monroe	217	183	34	0.687	84.33%
16.	1928	Herbert Hoover	531	444	87	0.672	83.62%
17.	1952	Dwight D. Eisenhower	531	442	89	0.665	83.24%
18.	1872	Ulysses S. Grant[c]	352	286	42	0.639	81.95%
19.	1912	Woodrow Wilson	531	435	88	0.638	81.92%
20.	1944	Franklin D. Roosevelt	531	432	99	0.627	81.36%
21.	1840	William Henry Harrison	294	234	60	0.592	79.59%
22.	1988	George H. W. Bush	538	426	111	0.584	79.18%
23.	1832	Andrew Jackson	286	219	49	0.531	76.57%
24.	1920	Warren G. Harding	531	404	127	0.522	76.08%
25.	1868	Ulysses S. Grant	294	214	80	0.456	72.79%
26.	1924	Calvin Coolidge	531	382	136	0.439	71.94%
27.	1904	Theodore Roosevelt	476	336	140	0.412	70.59%
28.	1996	Bill Clinton	538	379	159	0.409	70.45%
29.	1808	James Madison	175	122	47	0.394	69.71%
30.	1992	Bill Clinton	538	370	168	0.375	68.77%
31.	1828	Andrew Jackson	261	178	83	0.364	68.20%
32.	2008	Barack Obama	538	365	173	0.357	67.84%
33.	1908	William Howard Taft	483	321	162	0.329	66.46%
34.	1900	William McKinley	447	292	155	0.306	65.32%
35.	1892	Grover Cleveland	444	277	145	0.248	62.39%
36.	1844	James K. Polk	275	170	105	0.236	61.82%
37.	2012	Barack Obama	538	332	206	0.234	61.71%
38.	1896	William McKinley	447	271	176	0.213	60.63%
39.	1860	Abraham Lincoln	303	180	72	0.188	59.41%
40.	1812	James Madison	217	128	89	0.180	58.99%
41.	1856	James Buchanan	296	174	114	0.176	58.78%
42.	1888	Benjamin Harrison	401	233	168	0.162	58.10%
43.	1880	James A. Garfield	369	214	155	0.160	57.99%
44.	1836	Martin Van Buren	294	170	73	0.156	57.82%
45.	1948	Harry S. Truman	531	303	189	0.141	57.06%
46.	2016	Donald Trump	538	304	227	0.130	56.51%
47.	1960	John F. Kennedy	537	303	219	0.128	56.42%
48.	1848	Zachary Taylor	290	163	127	0.124	56.21%
49.	1968	Richard Nixon	538	301	191	0.119	55.95%
50.	1976	Jimmy Carter	538	297	240	0.104	55.20%
51.	1884	Grover Cleveland	401	219	182	0.092	54.61%
52.	2004	George W. Bush	538	286	251	0.063	53.16%
53.	1800	tie: Thomas Jefferson, Aaron Burrhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...ons_by_Electoral_College_margin#endnote_1800b

Any idiot can make up a chart!! SHEEPLE!!!!