Here come the GOP budget bills - with March 14 shutdown date approaching (3 Viewers)

[superchuck500]

The GOP in both the House and Senate have released their budget resolutions. Both aim to produce $1.5T to $2T in tax cuts- while slashing spending.

The Senate budget committee is hearing their resolution today and resolving over 200 proposed amendments.

The House has released their budge resolution:

- $4 Trillion debt-ceiling increase
- Defund Medicaid entirely (effectively)
- Reduce SNAP by 20%

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/02/12/congress/senate-budget-markup-begins-00203818

House GOP releases budget calling for trillions in cuts to taxes and spending

The blueprint conflicts with a Senate budget resolution, which doesn't address taxes or the debt ceiling. It also includes less funding than the Senate's for immigration enforcement.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[GrandAdmiral]

but also that Congress shouldn't be ceding its power to the president. He's a No.

When Rand forking Paul makes more sense...

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

Rand Paul goes first and says the CR is terrible b/c it doesn't cut enough - but also that Congress shouldn't be ceding its power to the president. He's a No.

I'll take him being half right over those that are completely wrong. That is how far we have fallen, we are now praising half-arse work.

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

I'll take him being half right over those that are completely wrong. That is how far we have fallen, we are now praising half-arse work.

I can deal with someone like that. I disagree with him on policy, but in this case agree with him on process. To me process is more important than specific policy.

However, I think he is still off on process and sanity in other areas (ie January 6th, pandemic, etc).

 

[longtime lurker]

Fingers crossed this leads to new leadership…this sense of rudderless direction from the Democrats has to stop. I want to see and hear a plan to bring sanity back to our Government.

 

[UncleTrvlingJim]

Fingers crossed this leads to new leadership…this sense of rudderless direction from the Democrats has to stop. I want to see and hear a plan to bring sanity back to our Government.

Too many old people.

 

[longtime lurker]

Too many old people.

Yep, weak and directionless on top of that. Time for change.

 

[bird]

Rand Paul goes first and says the CR is terrible b/c it doesn't cut enough - but also that Congress shouldn't be ceding its power to the president. He's a No.

Great that he is a no. Beyond that he is an idiot. He has no concept of the impact of government spending on the economy or he doesn’t give a schlitz.

 

[superchuck500]

 

[bird]

I'm not sure why impoundment would be unlawful when it's authorized by duly-passed federal legislation. We have the anti-impoundment act but that, itself, is legislation - so why can't Congress condition funds on executive discretion to impound? Yes, the appropriations power is in the Constitution but if Congress agrees to condition appropriations on executive discretion, I don't see how that's unconstitutional.

On the tariff provision, it's not just that Congress is ceding its power to cancel the tariffs, it's that Congress is ceding its power to cancel a presidential declaration of emergency. We have already seen Trump completely willing to use emergency powers when there's no actual emergency - so that alone should be highly troubling. You're right that Congress wouldn't block it now, but the problem is that when this becomes law, they can't block it at all until 10/1/2025. Trump could go deep-end bat shirt in May and Congress will have eliminated its power to end the use of these emergency powers through the end of September. Yes, for tariffs but it's broader than that.

I also question whether changing how days are counted is permissible - why do it that way?

Simply jumping over to DC home rule with no planning, nothing but this out of the blue, vindictive and punitive budget crushing move, would be an absolute disaster. It's an entire authorization and management shift, that would have to be planned - and the reality is that the GOP doesn't give two shirts about running DC. They want to complain about it but they're not going to run DC. It would be a massive mess.

Impoundment, to me, goes against one thing and has another problem. The first is that the executive is to execute the laws. This, imo, includes the budget and CRs as well.

The second is that impoundment is in essence a line item veto. The president does not have that power.

Impoundment is unconstitutional on its face. If the congress is too gutless to do its job that does not give the president a power he does not have. The same applies to the line item veto.

Of course, if the Dems can get their limbs moving in the same direction then the SCOTUS would have a case before it. That being said the corrupt SCOTUS might rule any old way they want without regard to anything.

 

[coldseat]

They all need to be primaried.

 

[superchuck500]

 

[DJ1BigTymer]

And now that Congress has essentially ceded their "power of the purse", Project 2025 will continue on with fewer roadblocks.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

They can all get forked, the spineless shirtbags.

 

[UriUT]

 

[Sendai]

Well, given that a national abortion ban would be unconstitutional, why not?

Fetterman for President.

 

[coldseat]

Well, given that a national abortion ban would be unconstitutional, why not?

Fetterman for President.

Sure it is.

Have you heard the Row v. Wade is settled law?

 

[Lapaz]

The shutdown would’ve forced law enforcement, the military and all other essential employees to work without pay. A few weeks of that would’ve caused outrage that would’ve put a lot of pressure on Republicans to agree to a clean CR.