General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump (1 Viewer)

[SamAndreas]

Today it begins, Kamala has reached the point that she's the Democratic Party nominee:

There's video from today. this link has video from her first public appearance since Biden endorsed her:

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/22/live-updates-harris-democrats-biden-drops-out-trump-campaign.html

She spent yesterday on the telephone for most of the day. I read that yesterday that she called the party leaders in all 50 states. That would take me three days.

She's renamed her YouTube channel, that's the where to go for video: https://www.youtube.com/@kamalaharris

This is her video on her channel from two hours ago:



To play it, start it, and then move it up to 5:47. This was one of those live videos which don't start at zero.

I've named this thread General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump

Trump needs an introduction post as well, a MAGA suporter ought to write it: @Farb, @SaintForLife , @Others, calling for someone to please introduce your GOP candidate for this 2024 general election thread.

 

[bird]

Yeah, I just have never been a one issue voter. It is shortsighted and rather ignorant, in my opinion.

Yet, oddly enough you are a one party voter based upon your commentary.

 

[Texan1211]

Yet, oddly enough you are a one party voter based upon your commentary.

Prove it instead of guessing. You are clueless.

 

[bird]

Did you love everything any Democratic President ever did? If you didn't like their stance on one topic, did it cost them your coveted vote?

Love everything? Nope. Was everything put forth by a Democratic president better than anything put forth by a Republican president? Yup.

 

[Texan1211]

Love everything? Nope. Was everything put forth by a Democratic president better than anything put forth by a Republican president? Yup.

So you yourself are guilty of what you accuse others of, supporting politicians whose policies you are against.

 

[Texan1211]

I've read enough. I must be on crazy pills. I could swear you liked another "centrist" on the boards post about his love of Trump's policies.

You must have gotten hacked when that happened.

I can like what someone says without agreeing 100% with them.

 

[Texan1211]

Was everything put forth by a Democratic president better than anything put forth by a Republican president?

That is so fantastical as to be completely unhinged and laughable nonsense.
What you just claimed is that Lincoln freeing slaves wasn't as good as the WORST thing a Democrat ever did. That is just freaking nuts, dude. Whatever credibility you had just got shot to hell and back.

 

[Texan1211]

Love everything? Nope. Was everything put forth by a Democratic president better than anything put forth by a Republican president? Yup.

Straight up delusional.

 

[J-DONK]

I can like what someone says without agreeing 100% with them.

Well, Texan1211 please tell the class what you don't like about Trump. You have been more then happy to share your criticism of Democrats.

 

[Texan1211]

Well, Texan1211 please tell the class what you don't like about Trump. You have been more then happy to share your criticism of Democrats.

He tells too many lies, he is bombastic, caustic, not the brightest bulb, argumentative for no reason.
Those are the reasons I didn't vote for him.
Thanks for asking.

 

[J-DONK]

He tells too many lies, he is bombastic, caustic, not the brightest bulb, argumentative for no reason.
Those are the reasons I didn't vote for him.
Thanks for asking.

You don't have an issue with any of his policy positions?

 

[t_rav_82]

You don't have an issue with any of his policy positions?

I thought he was listing his similarities with trump.

 

[J-DONK]

I thought he was listing his similarities with trump.

1. Likes a post discussing how much they like Trump policies.
2. Gets called out, and says he doesn't agree with Trump on everything.
3. I asked for details.
4. He doesn't list a single policy position just his personality.

I don't think he can do it. We've had another conserative posters in the past that couldn't bring themselves to critque the party in this way either. It's hilariously sycophantic.

 

[Texan1211]

You don't have an issue with any of his policy positions?

Gee, do I need any more reasons to not vote for Trump?
No politician will ever do 100% of what I would like to see happen. One can agree with some policies and not with others.
Besides, I don't think the election was about policy, as evidenced by the way the campaigns were conducted.

 

[Dragon]

Gee, do I need any more reasons to not vote for Trump?
No politician will ever do 100% of what I would like to see happen. One can agree with some policies and not with others.
Besides, I don't think the election was about policy, as evidenced by the way the campaigns were conducted.

Why don’t you tell us what you believe the election was actually about? Can you name specific policies you support and those you oppose? You consistently avoid engaging in meaningful discussion, relying instead on vague generalities and avoiding substantial points.

So, let’s get into specifics: which policies promoted by Trump and his allies do you actually support? Are you even capable of mentioning concrete details? You clearly didn’t agree with the policies Harris campaigned on—so which of those are you against, and why?

Maybe we can have a more productive and significant discussion if you start engaging in good faith instead of defaulting to one-liners.

 

[Texan1211]

So, let’s get into specifics: which policies promoted by Trump and his allies do you actually support?

A more secure border, deporting criminal aliens. less focus on green energy, lower taxes. Perhaps a little bit tougher stance with our enemies and more support for our allies.
Harris was merely Joe Biden 2.0 and ran mainly on vilifying Trump and anyone supporting him. Trump did the same with the Democrats. Expecting Harris to be any different than Biden is extremely naive.

 

[Dragon]

A more secure border, deporting criminal aliens. less focus on green energy, lower taxes. Perhaps a little bit tougher stance with our enemies and more support for our allies.
Harris was merely Joe Biden 2.0 and ran mainly on vilifying Trump and anyone supporting him. Trump did the same with the Democrats. Expecting Harris to be any different than Biden is extremely naive.

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Let’s talk about green energy. I take it you don’t believe in climate change, despite the clear effects we've seen in Texas.

As for a tougher stance on enemies and more support for allies, that’s certainly not Trump. Trump, who told Putin he could just attack Europe and considered pulling the U.S. out of NATO? Trump, who called Kim Jong-un in North Korea his "friend"?

If you think Trump truly cares about securing the border, why did he delay the process by forcing the House to vote against a Republican bill that would have addressed that? And why did he pardon the person who embezzled from his “Build the Wall” fund?

Harris actually had a very specific plan on her website and spoke of it often. But I guess you never actually checked it. Trump had the "concept of a plan" and what happened after the election shows clearly that his plan WAS project 2025 even though he repeatedly denied it before the election

 

[Texan1211]

I take it you don’t believe in climate change,

Another idiotic assumption based on nothing more than mygeography? How awesome is that, eh?
Seems you have deliberately misinterpreted my comment. I CLEARLY didn't say I was against green energy, I am not. But the extreme focus of some is out of whack with reality.

As for a tougher stance on enemies and more support for allies, that’s certainly not Trump. Trump, who told Putin he could just attack Europe and considered pulling the U.S. out of NATO? Trump, who called Kim Jong-un in North Korea his "friend"?

Let's look at what actually occurred in the world during Trump's term. Compare it with what happened in the world during Biden's term. Amazing difference.
As astute as you seem to be, surely you are completely aware that NO President can remove us from NATO, right? SO that seems to be no point at all to be attempting to make.
A more secure border would be almost anything better than what Biden/Harris had.
When asked SPECIFICALLY what she would do different than Biden, her answer was clear and concise: “There is not a thing that comes to mind.” Either she was telling the truth or not. I believe she was, as she had nothing to lose facing the softballs from the stars at The View.

 

[Texan1211]

I thought

And now the problem is evident.