General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump (1 Viewer)

[SamAndreas]

Today it begins, Kamala has reached the point that she's the Democratic Party nominee:

There's video from today. this link has video from her first public appearance since Biden endorsed her:

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/22/live-updates-harris-democrats-biden-drops-out-trump-campaign.html

She spent yesterday on the telephone for most of the day. I read that yesterday that she called the party leaders in all 50 states. That would take me three days.

She's renamed her YouTube channel, that's the where to go for video: https://www.youtube.com/@kamalaharris

This is her video on her channel from two hours ago:



To play it, start it, and then move it up to 5:47. This was one of those live videos which don't start at zero.

I've named this thread General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump

Trump needs an introduction post as well, a MAGA suporter ought to write it: @Farb, @SaintForLife , @Others, calling for someone to please introduce your GOP candidate for this 2024 general election thread.

 

[Texan1211]

I realize you most certainly are MAGA and pro-Trump. You support what they stand for. Simply denying means nothing.

And immigrant labor is generally less expensive. That you cannot grasp that is your problem.

Btw, talking to you is not like talking to a brick wall. It is hollering into a yawning abyss.

You liberal types crack me up.
I really don't understand why a single one of you come to a place for debate. You debate yourselves every time, and lose at it badly.

 

[cuddlemonkey]

You wrote what YOU wanted, but refuse to extend the same courtesy to others, Got it. Bye now.

That's twice now that you've done this. You did it in the EC thread also. Why is it so hard to say you were wrong?

 

[MT15]

You liberal types crack me up.
I really don't understand why a single one of you come to a place for debate. You debate yourselves every time, and lose at it badly.

You were clearly proven wrong. Don’t be a child, admit you were wrong and we can move on.

Otherwise we are left to assume you aren’t actually operating here in good faith, but rather as a hollow vessel for right wing talking points.

Choice is yours, ball’s in your court.

 

[Texan1211]

You were clearly proven wrong. Don’t be a child, admit you were wrong and we can move on.

Otherwise we are left to assume you aren’t actually operating here in good faith, but rather as a hollow vessel for right wing talking points.

Choice is yours, ball’s in your court.

You know what they say about assumptions, don't you? Since I have joined here, people have accused me of being a MAGA, a Trump lover, a Trump worshipper, etc. Funny thing, those damnable false claims were never once accompanied by any quotes from my postings here You (collective) decided I was from Texas and must be damned no matter what you could have actually read.
I don't care for further lectures from you.

 

[MT15]

Just as I thought.

 

[Texan1211]

There are plenty of Republican employers profiting from employing undocumented workers. This isn't a contentious fact

I bet just as many Democrats are doing likewise. That is reality.
Of course, if illegal aliens weren't here they couldn't be hired.

 

[RobF]

I bet just as many Democrats are doing likewise. That is reality.
Of course, if illegal aliens weren't here they couldn't be hired.

Well, at least you acknowledge that Republicans are profiting from employing undocumented workers.

There will of course be Democrats who also employ undocumented workers.

However, I would suggest the hypocrisy inherent in publicly vilifying undocumented migrants and demanding they all be deported while simultaneously privately employing them and/or knowing that your, or your family's/donors'/etc. businesses depend on employing them, and consequently having no actual intention of even making a significant attempt to deport them, that, I think you'll find, is heavily on the Republican side.

 

[Texan1211]

Well, at least you acknowledge that Republicans are profiting from employing undocumented workers.

There will of course be Democrats who also employ undocumented workers.

However, I would suggest the hypocrisy inherent in publicly vilifying undocumented migrants and demanding they all be deported while simultaneously privately employing them and/or knowing that your, or your family's/donors'/etc. businesses depend on employing them, and consequently having no actual intention of even making a significant attempt to deport them, that, I think you'll find, is heavily on the Republican side.

Is there no hypocrisy in Democrats bleating about LAW and then circumventing the LAW?

 

[J-DONK]

Well, at least you acknowledge that Republicans are profiting from employing undocumented workers.

There will of course be Democrats who also employ undocumented workers.

However, I would suggest the hypocrisy inherent in publicly vilifying undocumented migrants and demanding they all be deported while simultaneously privately employing them and/or knowing that your, or your family's/donors'/etc. businesses depend on employing them, and consequently having no actual intention of even making a significant attempt to deport them, that, I think you'll find, is heavily on the Republican side.

The two biggest job markets for illegals: Agriculture, and Housing. PACs for those interest predominantly support conseratives.

Donald Trump is never doing anything about illegals, just like his first term.

P2025 was always the plan.

Trump can't lower the price of eggs.

He will cut taxes on rich people, and corporations.

Then Scousters/Texan types will be back here in 4 years crying about democrats ruining the country.

 

[Texan1211]

The two biggest job markets for illegals: Agriculture, and Housing. PACs for those interest predominantly support conseratives.

Donald Trump is never doing anything about illegals, just like his first term.

P2025 was always the plan.

Trump can't lower the price of eggs.

He will cut taxes on rich people, and corporations.

Then Scousters/Texan types will be back here in 4 years crying about democrats runing the country.

Exactly what have I ever written to give you the erroneous impression I like Trump? Are some folks simply incapable of judging Biden without the endless reflections to Trump? Is your defense of Biden so weak that THIS is the only argument you possess?

 

[J-DONK]

Exactly what have I ever written to give you the erroneous impression I like Trump? Are some folks simply incapable of judging Biden without the endless reflections to Trump? Is your defense of Biden so weak that THIS is the only argument you possess?

I know you say you're an enlightened centrist. You just happen to spend all your time on this board critisizing Democrats, and defending Republicans. We have a couple of you guys on the board.

You guys should all get together a form a group. Maybe name it: Moderates Against Greater democrat inAction.

 

[Texan1211]

know you say you're an enlightened centrist

It would behoove you to read more. I made no such claim.
Your whole argument seems to be nothing more than "not as bad as Trump". Pitifully weak, and did you not learn in November that crap doesn't fly?

 

[J-DONK]

It would behoove you to read more. I made no such claim.
Your whole argument seems to be nothing more than "not as bad as Trump". Pitifully weak, and did you not learn in November that crap doesn't fly?

I've read enough. I must be on crazy pills. I could swear you liked another "centrist" on the boards post about his love of Trump's policies.

You must have gotten hacked when that happened.

 

[bird]

Exactly what have I ever written to give you the erroneous impression I like Trump? Are some folks simply incapable of judging Biden without the endless reflections to Trump? Is your defense of Biden so weak that THIS is the only argument you possess?

Like Trump? Who cares? You like his policies.

And just like some others you claim you support certain things. In your case it is abortion rights. But you support those who curtail and would completely eliminate those same rights. So abortion rights on your priority list appear to be low.

Bottom line is you dislike Trump the alleged person and support much of what Trump the politician bleats.

 

[Texan1211]

Like Trump? Who cares? You like his policies.

I like SOME of his policies. See, I can look at something a President does and not automatically label it bad just because I don't like someone. Why not give that a try?

 

[bird]

I like SOME of his policies. See, I can look at something a President does and not automatically label it bad just because I don't like someone. Why not give that a try?

Irrelevant. Why? Because you still support with your vote those who support him.

 

[Texan1211]

Like Trump? Who cares? You like his policies.

And just like some others you claim you support certain things. In your case it is abortion rights. But you support those who curtail and would completely eliminate those same rights. So abortion rights on your priority list appear to be low.

Bottom line is you dislike Trump the alleged person and support much of what Trump the politician bleats.

Yeah, I just have never been a one issue voter. It is shortsighted and rather ignorant, in my opinion.

 

[Texan1211]

Irrelevant. Why? Because you still support with your vote those who support him.

Did you love everything any Democratic President ever did? If you didn't like their stance on one topic, did it cost them your coveted vote?