General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump (3 Viewers)

[SamAndreas]

Today it begins, Kamala has reached the point that she's the Democratic Party nominee:

There's video from today. this link has video from her first public appearance since Biden endorsed her:

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/07/22/live-updates-harris-democrats-biden-drops-out-trump-campaign.html

She spent yesterday on the telephone for most of the day. I read that yesterday that she called the party leaders in all 50 states. That would take me three days.

She's renamed her YouTube channel, that's the where to go for video: https://www.youtube.com/@kamalaharris

This is her video on her channel from two hours ago:



To play it, start it, and then move it up to 5:47. This was one of those live videos which don't start at zero.

I've named this thread General Election 2024 Harris vs Trump

Trump needs an introduction post as well, a MAGA suporter ought to write it: @Farb, @SaintForLife , @Others, calling for someone to please introduce your GOP candidate for this 2024 general election thread.

 

[Incumbent]

With our declining birth rates, and young adults choosing not to be burdened by parenthood, we’ll be begging for immigrants.

Which shouldn’t surprise anybody when wage growth isn’t keeping pace with price gouging and poorly regulated market effects. It’s only getting more expensive to survive, especially so for families with children. The working class are the people who suffer in a greed-driven system that prioritizes maximized profits above all else.

Too many of us - the average folks - are fighting the wrong battles against the wrong people.

 

[Huntn]

A man convicted of dozens of felonies versus a criminal prosecutor. An architect of abortion bans versus a champion of reproductive freedom.

An elderly white man fixated on the past versus a mixed-race daughter of immigrants leaning into the future.

One hundred days from the US presidential election, the choice for voters has never been so clear cut. Kamala Harris, 59, the de facto Democratic nominee after the dramatic withdrawal of Joe Biden, is a progressive person of colour bidding to become the first female president in America’s 248-year history.

Donald Trump, at 78 the oldest nominee in history, is a populist-nationalist who has demonised immigrants, gained backing from far-right extremists and tapped into white Christian nostalgia by promising to “make America great again”.

“In this moment, I believe we face a choice between two different visions for our nation, one focused on the future, the other focused on the past,” Harris told members of the historically Black sorority Zeta Phi Beta in Indianapolis on Wednesday. “And with your support, I am fighting for our nation’s future.”

Biden has previously spoken of a “battle for the soul of the nation” and Trump has described this election as “the final battle”.

But the nomination of Harris will be clarifying about the culmination of a tumultuous decade and a collision of two Americas: one liberal, diverse and optimistic, the other conservative, nativist and, in Trump’s telling, driven by grievance and vengeance.

Halifu Osumare, professor emerita in the department of African American and African studies at the University of California, Davis, said: “The difference between the candidates couldn’t be any starker. To me it represents this country and its schizophrenia. This country is both racist to its core yet the leader of the world in the rights of the individual and democracy.

“This election is going to play out that schizophrenia because you’ve got a good deal of the nation who wants to take us back to those days where white supremacy was absolutely dominant, and those who want us to evolve as a human species. We need somebody who has humanity at her core in order to do that.”

The road that led here began with the election of Barack Obama, America’s first Black president, in 2008. For millions of Americans, Obama represented hope; for millions of other Americans, he represented fear that the country they grew up in was disappearing.

Whereas white Christians made up 54% of the US population in 2008, they have now slipped into the minority and make up only 44%…….

Voters to choose between two starkly different candidates in US ‘Armageddon election’

The choice for voters has never been so clear cut as Harris, de facto nominee after Biden’s withdrawal, takes on Trump

www.theguardian.com

Witnessing the illusions of REVOLUTION as fantasized by the The Head Sociopath, we lament the sorry state of US politics. How could this ever happen? If anything we should all have a new perception of the peril our Republic is in, for an Authoritarian JACK ARSE like this, not only to be running for POTUS, but to be considered competitive. It’s as if entering an alternate reality where everything is stood on its head. Vote as if your life depended on it! It might.

Trump Tells Christians They Won't Have to Vote in Future: 'We'll Have It Fixed'

Donald Trump told a crowd gathered in West Palm Beach on Friday that if elected for a second term, they “won’t have to vote anymore.”

www.rollingstone.com

And when the man who wants to be “dictator, but just for a day”, proclaims he was “just kidding” about not having to vote in 4 years, remember, 1) this is his go-to tactic to avoid responsibility for his verbal blunders, saying out loud what he really wants, that he can’t help because of his ego. And 2) he always talks in a manner of plausible deniability. He didn’t say “manufacturer 10k votes for me”, he said, “find 10k votes”. Even the latter exceeds plausible deniability standards if you’re a responsible adult.

 

[SaintForLife]

Two polls came out for MN: +6, and +10 for Harris. Trump is wasting his time in MN. I love to see it.

That's okay. Harris ain't winning in November. I love to see it.

 

[Saint Jack]

 

[Saint Jack]

That's okay. Harris ain't winning in November. I love to see it.

The same thing was said before the 20 Election.
And then Trump lost.

 

[fooferdoggie]

And yet Trump has made historic gains with minorities according to the polls.

he has done shirt and then only by offering the moon. when you lie about faith to fool the Christians that can't be claimed as a gain.

 

[fooferdoggie]

That's okay. Harris ain't winning in November. I love to see it.

Yep we know you are for someone who will take over the government lies like no one else and loves to abuse women. keep telling us how great your orange Jesus is.

 

[bird]

What you call the great replacement theory is the Democrats long term election strategy. Listen to Biden say it clearly.

Sorry, Vivek, but you are lying. Border crossings are down and the Republican Party refused to bring a bill to a vote that contained virtually everything they wanted because their cognitively declining demagogue told them not too.

The immigration problem became their problem when that happened and it needs to be a millstone on every Republican’s neck.

 

[SamAndreas]

History often creates an illusion that what was will become again.

Pongo was a pirate, who wouldn't wash. Who has he become? What is he doing now?

Doggone all odds, he appears to be running for President.

 

[bdb13]

Kelly just makes so much sense to me:

A growing number of House Democrats are telling Kamala Harris that she should pick Sen. Mark Kelly as her vice president, believing he would offset her biggest current weakness: the border.

Kelly — a former Navy pivot, astronaut and now a senator from Arizona — has pushed the Biden administration to take a tougher position on border security and aligned more closely with other border-state Democrats, some of whom have either withheld endorsements for Harris’ presidential bid or openly condemned her handling of the border.

Three such Democrats — Reps. Vicente Gonzalez (D-Texas), Henry Cuellar (D-Texas) and Lou Correa (D-Calif.) — are all publicly pushing for Kelly. Shortly after voting for a bill that denounced Harris’ handling of the border, Cuellar said Kelly was Harris’ best potential pick for a no. 2, saying he “knows the border well.”

“He would add a lot of value,” Gonzalez echoed, gushing about Kelly’s military background and his clear grasp of border issues.

Kelly, along with Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro, are Hill Democrats’ two top picks to join Harris on the ticket, according to interviews with 30 Democratic lawmakers and senior aides. They both have won multiple elections in swing states, and lawmakers believe they have the most to offer in helping the party beat Donald Trump. Still, while there’s a sense that Shapiro would bring executive experience to the ticket that Harris lacks, others — including in Harris’ own orbit — think Kelly would be critical to addressing Harris’ weakness on immigration.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/28/dems-push-mark-kelly-vp-00171422

 

[SaintForLife]

Sorry, Vivek, but you are lying. Border crossings are down and the Republican Party refused to bring a bill to a vote that contained virtually everything they wanted because their cognitively declining demagogue told them not too.

The immigration problem became their problem when that happened and it needs to be a millstone on every Republican’s neck.

The Democrats that don't think immigration will be a huge factor in the election are in for a rude awakening. Many cities are overun with illegals that are taking services and resources away from US citizens, crime is up, etc.

 

[Greg]

Two polls came out for MN: +6, and +10 for Harris. Trump is wasting his time in MN. I love to see it.

Forcing Biden out was a hail mary attempt. Republicans are on offense. Democrats are on defense.

 

[bdb13]

Forcing Biden out was a hail mary attempt. Republicans are on offense. Democrats are on defense.

They were certainly on defense with Biden but it doesn't feel that same way to me now. Very quickly they've closed the gap enough to feel like the Democrats now have a puncher's chance.

 

[bird]

The Democrats that don't think immigration will be a huge factor in the election are in for a rude awakening. Many cities are overun with illegals that are taking services and resources away from US citizens, crime is up, etc.

Sigh, crime is down. Immigrants are not overwhelming every city. Not only that but American citizens are far more likely to cause violent crime than immigrants but that doesn’t stop the Republicans from highlighting one case as though it is indicative of immigrant caused crime. Of course, the reason that cities see more is because there are no jobs elsewhere except for stoop labor.

Immigration issues are the fault of Republicans. They chose their rapidly declining dotard instead of doing the job they were elected to do. You support them so you are at fault as well

 

[SaintForLife]

They were certainly on defense with Biden but it doesn't feel that same way to me now. Very quickly they've closed the gap enough to feel like the Democrats now have a puncher's chance.

It feels that way because the media is coordinating with the Harris campaign to scrub any negative things from the internet(she wasn't the border czar despite multiple places reporting that she was and GovTrack removing the page that showed Harris was the most liberal Senator when she ran for President.)

They are also exaggerating the excitement and enthusiasm. It's easy to see if you don't normally follow the corporate media.

 

[bdb13]

It feels that way because the media is coordinating with the Harris campaign to scrub any negative things from the internet(she wasn't the border czar despite multiple places reporting that she was and GovTrack removing the page that showed Harris was the most liberal Senator when she ran for President.)

They are also exaggerating the excitement and enthusiasm. It's easy to see if you don't normally follow the corporate media.

I watched CNN last Sunday when Biden dropped out and haven't watched anything since.. I'm just following the trends with polling and everything and it's obvious the race is at least in a somewhat different place than it was last Saturday.

 

[SaintForLife]

I watched CNN last Sunday when Biden dropped out and haven't watched anything since.. I'm just following the trends with polling and everything and it's obvious the race is at least in a somewhat different place than it was last Saturday.

It is in a different place and the Democrats do have a better chance to win with Harris as opposed to Biden.

But, that doesn't negate the media doing everything they can to turn her into the next Obama. It's way over the top.

 

[fooferdoggie]

The Democrats that don't think immigration will be a huge factor in the election are in for a rude awakening. Many cities are overun with illegals that are taking services and resources away from US citizens, crime is up, etc.

si they say the same thing about the homeless. no one wants them around and they claim it's dangerous. Better than having MAGA racists armed to the teeth around.